Posted on 07/22/2005 6:40:01 PM PDT by datura
"Hey, are we going to war? Something's not right. I can see many armoured vehicles and soldiers with guns on the road. I can ever hear planes in the air. Rumor has it that they're from Yushu (i believe that this's a location, but i'm not sure which) Can someone please clarify what's happening?"
"They're over here too. I can see hundreds of troops, many of whom are in full battle order. I'm from Yushu"
"I'm from Chengdu. Are you from the region where the bird flu was found?"
"I'm seeing the same thing here too, in LaSuTung (translation, i think it's a mongolian city). I've never seen so many planes in my entire life."
"It must be related to the bird flu."
"I thought "it" (the bird flu) was from the Qinghai region? It's here now? That's really fast."
"We'd better keep a low profile. My parents are asking me not to venture out. I can see troops in full battle order grabbing people. But I'm not sure why so."
"You're right, I can see troops and planes too."
"It must be our comrades getting ready to attack Japan."
"It's such a mess here. We can't even sort nourselves out, what nonsense about Japan. This must be measures to deal with the bird flu."
(2-3 irrelevant posts cursing the japanese in general)
"Hey, I can see troops in "white suits" and planes flying at low altitudes. If you can see them too, can you please acknowledge?"
(5 posts agree)
"I see people being snatched out of their houses"
(curses & swears at everything and anything in particular - Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaopeng and the Bird Flu included)
"Let's see - YuShu, ChengDu, LaSuTung, Jie-Wu (and other locations which i can't read) all inaccessible for the next few days? What the hell?"
"The troops are finally here. They're walking through the village (or town), checking the houses. I should be fine since I don't breed any birds."
"It's ridiculous to think that they can drag people off the streets just because of the bird flu."
"I hear that they're snatching people whose names are on a printed namelist. They're only checking the houses of those in their vicinities."
"Hu Jing Tao & Wen Jia Bao have already said that to eliminate the bird flu, we must start by getting rid of the human cases. Only via ridding the human cases can transmission be stopped."
"I'm going to turn vegan from today onwards."
The above is a translation of messages appearing on July 20. Today boxan is providing a translation of part of the message, but a translation of the longer message seems more appropriate, in light of the WHO warning based on new H5N1 bird flu outbreaks in Indonesia and Russia.
The above exchange appears to be between two students in southeastern Qinghai Province. The commentary is unconfirmed, but if true, would certainly suggest a stage 6 pandemic in China.
China has not responded to the WHO request to visit neighboring Xinjiang Province, which is just south of the recent outbreak in Novosibursk, Russia. The WHO visit to Qinghai raised serious questions about additional information of the H5N1 at Qinghai Lake.
Other boxan reports detail 10 strains of H5N1 circulating in China, including 7 that have been found in humans.
These data, if true, would point toward a massive cover-up of a raging bird flu pandemic in China
To those of us who have been watching this, this comes as no surprise.
Can you elaborate as to exactly what a "Stage 6 pandemic" is? I'm sure George Noory will talk about it on his show, but unless he calls an expert, he won't know either.
There was an outbreak in geese in northern China (publicly acknowledged) and the miltiatary was called in. There were rumors it was just a cover-up for human-to-human transmission outbreak of the bird flu.
This article is also posted on the Avian Flu
Surveillance Project thread, today, and a discussion of the pandemic stages can be found at wikipedia.
Messages appearing WHERE? Was this made up or is there references somewhere?
Sounds like what might happen two years into a Hillary administration.
Stage 6 means efficient human to human transmission, with fatalities.
Like all flu virus, this one prefers fall weather - yet it didn't stop this summer like it did last year. Now it is in Russia as well as Idonesia, also India.
It is no longer a southeast Asian problem.
I suspected coverup for some time now.
Boxun news, in China.
I'm going to keep an eye on this one. Was this from an internet 'chat"? If so- i just read where there are only 6 routes of internet service in China (or perhaps into/out of China) and they are all monitored very heavily.
Did you see that Ebola is now becoming pandemic in China? Sounds like bioweapons to me, as the two share a large chunk of DNA.
ping
If it's true, we're toast. You can't control the flu at the point of a gun.
For now, I don't believe it's true.
Of course, what I believe or don't believe has absolutely no relevance to my chances of getting infected.
Why would china cover this up? Could it be a test of a weaponized version?
Thanks for your ongoing thread, Judith Anne, but the masses in here don't go there - the information is too troubling. They need to have it in plain sight once in a while.
Commentary
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Military Enforcing Quarantine in H5N1 Pandemic in China?
Recombinomics Commentary
July 22, 2005
According to a news report by BBS (they call this a "location", that's a literal translation. i think it's actually a website.) on the morning of 22nd July, the bird flu is still spreading. This (the spread) has caused serious disturbances in a YuShu farm to the Northwest of Qinghai. Based on information from forums / message boards, it is understood that on the 12th July, this farm / farming area was discovered to have many people afflicted with acute pneumonia (i'm not sure if it's via identification of symptoms or was it actually lab confirmed). Following this, authorities entered the area and isolated the patients. Their whereabouts are unknown. They also forcibly inspected surrounding areas and isolated those with "abnormal respiratory problems". On 18th July, the decision was made to close / quarantine the area. This was aimed at preventing / restricting the movement of people in and out of the area. This led the residents to "lose control of themselves" and revolt against the authorities, leading to many casualties. To prevent a chain reaction linked to the Tibetan question (this is a guess, nomads / Tibetans are the words alluded here), on the 20th, the PLA sent in huge numbers of re-inforcements to quell the uprising. At the moment, the extent of the disturbances there is unclear as the area still remains under martial law.
The following is the extract of the forum / message board taken by Boxun.
Title: Something's Happening
[Description / Moderator's Comments, possibly] (i'm guessing what that was. but the text should go along the following lines)
I finally understand why. Over here in the farming area, there are people rioting and they've inflicted casualties on the troops. That farming area is the same one that has been quarantined. I hear the disturbances were huge, and that's why re-inforcements have been sent.
"Does anyone know what happened at that farm."
"Received / Affirmative" (Irrelevant / error i think)
"Fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting over a bunch of birds!"
"The farm - nothing was mentioned about it. Just closed for no good reason, ostensibly for 'lessons' ('lessons' is my take, google translates it as exams, if so, it might fit, but i believe that the literal meaning is that of lessons)"
"We'd better ignore it. There's nothing to see. The other forum has already said that it's because of the fighting between the Tibetans / nomads and the doctors. The troops have been sent to suppress the disturbances. The farming area (actually, i think farming community might be a better word) has not been quarantined because of lessons, but rather its been isolated because of the bird flu. The investigators there are in fact linked to the arrests that had been made previously."
The above human translation supports earlier messages indicating the military is enforcing a mandatory quarantine in Qinhai province related to the H5N1 bird flu outbreak described in Nature and Science two weeks ago. Additional information is being withheld by China.
Now, the quarantine enforcement is being met with resistance form the local population.
China covers everything up.
Rook! Godzirra!
I understand, but for the many questions that arise when a very alarming post such as this is made, it has all already been discussed and the information assessed.
We did that in part to have all the information in one place. There were a lot of Avian Flu threads getting started, and information wasn't getting to everyone who was reading them, with the result that it was being duplicated a lot.
If you want to highlight something like this, though, I understand your reasoning.
I'm glad to see your mind opening up to the concept of this - finally. The preponderance of evidence makes it difficult to not believe it is happening. Especially in China. They don't dare risk the Olympics - to them that would be a crushing defeat.
More importantly, they don't dare risk having their exports shut off completely. Scientists don't know how long this stuff remains infectious on surfaces.
Currently, the data reads as though this originated in Project 867, and got out of the lab by accident.
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