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Mount Soledad cross must get two-thirds of vote to remain (Judicial tyranny II)
S D Union ^ | July 22, 2005 | Matthew T. Hall

Posted on 07/22/2005 9:03:25 AM PDT by radar101

The campaign to keep the Mount Soledad cross in La Jolla suffered a setback yesterday when a judge said a ballot measure aimed at preserving the cross requires two-thirds approval from San Diego voters Tuesday.

The higher threshold, coming five days before the special election, casts doubt on the prospects for a measure that previously seemed destined for approval.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: atheist; cross; memorial; minority; mountsoledad; religion

1 posted on 07/22/2005 9:03:26 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

Do tax increases require a 2/3 vote....?


2 posted on 07/22/2005 9:15:48 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: radar101

Pretty soon the ACLU will be attacking cities like San Diego, Los Angeles, San Franscisco, St. Augustine, Port St. Lucie, St. Louis and San Antonio, becuse their names 'denote Christian roots'.

What a joke


3 posted on 07/22/2005 9:41:15 AM PDT by Frenetic
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To: radar101

Exactly what portion of the California or US constitution did this judge use to justify this new threshold? OR did he just pull it out of his butt because he is legislating from the bench......


4 posted on 07/22/2005 9:42:17 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: TheBattman

the judge--a SHE.


5 posted on 07/22/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by radar101
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To: TheBattman

"Exactly what portion of the California or US constitution did this judge use to justify this new threshold? OR did he just pull it out of his butt because he is legislating from the bench......"

It's in the San Diego city charter.

If the land is a public park, and it is being transferred to any other entity without an ironclad guarantee that it will remain a public park in perpetuity, then the transfer requires a 2/3rds vote to approve.

Congress can use or dispose of federal land as it wishes. So there is a possibility that the land could eventually end up being used for some other purpose.


6 posted on 07/22/2005 9:52:41 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I don't understand. Since the cross is already there and has been for fifty years, why doesn't it take a two-thirds majority vote to REMOVE it, or does that street only go one way?


7 posted on 07/22/2005 10:04:44 AM PDT by beelzepug (powder, patch, ball...)
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To: beelzepug

"I don't understand. Since the cross is already there and has been for fifty years, why doesn't it take a two-thirds majority vote to REMOVE it, or does that street only go one way?"

The vote isn't to save the cross. It's to transfer the park land to the federal government.


8 posted on 07/22/2005 10:10:29 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: radar101

Is the judge just making it up as he or she goes along?


9 posted on 07/22/2005 10:11:48 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

See Post #6.


10 posted on 07/22/2005 10:15:14 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Frenetic

Wait till they figure out how Sacramento got its name (-:


11 posted on 07/22/2005 10:17:05 AM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase

"Wait till they figure out how Sacramento got its name (-:"

- LOL...good one. Sad thing is that I can see it happening.


12 posted on 07/22/2005 10:24:03 AM PDT by Frenetic
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Hey I missed post 6, sorry. Looks fair and square to me!


13 posted on 07/22/2005 10:25:01 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

The problem here is that the land is now private property. there was a move to deed it to the city, but the Athiest attorney attacked that.
The BIG rub here for the Athiest is that once it is a Federal Court, he will have sue the Federal Government, through Federal Courts, and the U S Supreme Court has said it is O K to have a cross or 10 Commandments outside of a Court building.


14 posted on 07/22/2005 1:03:19 PM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

"The problem here is that the land is now private property. there was a move to deed it to the city, but the Athiest attorney attacked that. "

Backwards, it is on city property, and there was an effort to deed it to a private entity, but that fell apart because of the 2/3rds vote requirement.

If the land was private property, the cross would not be in danger.


15 posted on 07/22/2005 1:05:52 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
If the land was private property, the cross would not be in danger.

That may be true for now, but the ACLU is working on an approach to crosses on private property. Perhaps an eminent domain attack first and then a separation of church and state attack, or something like that....

16 posted on 07/22/2005 1:14:32 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: radar101

The cross got 77% according to Roger Hedgecock on Rush's show today.

Way to put the rotten activist judge on notice, San Diego


17 posted on 07/27/2005 9:40:12 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend

The attorney for the athiest declared that this was his first step ( he anticipated that this intiative woulf fail)
Had the Cross measure not passed, he was going to move on to remove crosses on "Public Property" like cemetaries.


18 posted on 07/27/2005 11:53:11 AM PDT by radar101
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