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Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?
FreeRepublic.com, Conversation with Victor Davis Hanson, Posts re David Corn, the Nation, et al. ^ | 7/20/05 | FReetheSheeples

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:04:42 PM PDT by FReethesheeples

Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair.

Importantly, perhaps, and inferentially corroborative of the above account is the fact that David Corn in the Nation did an article on Valerie Plame's identity evidently (& reportedly) a day after he met with Joe Wilson.


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1 posted on 07/19/2005 10:04:46 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: FReethesheeples

Yes


2 posted on 07/19/2005 10:06:22 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: FReethesheeples

It is extremely unlikely that the reporter still in jail for contempt is protecting a member of the administration.

That leaves Joe.


3 posted on 07/19/2005 10:09:37 PM PDT by konaice
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To: SmithL

I think you're quite perceptive & correct. Thanks!


4 posted on 07/19/2005 10:11:56 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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To: konaice

Yes. Or as Jack Kelly and others have suggested (David Horowitz) Valerie Plame could have been the source of Miller's WMD stories. IF she had an agenda. Does this mean Plame herself could be a target of the GJ?Indpe, Prosecutor? One might hope as much if she was a source herself and thereofre violative of CIA's Secrecy, potentially compromising other CIA agents actually in the field, etc.


5 posted on 07/19/2005 10:14:50 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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To: FReethesheeples

One thing that is never mentioned in all of the coverage of the fat lying sow [Joe Wilson] is the question where the fat lying sow got the money to purchase [a] ambassadorial slots in West African pestholes, [b] entre with the Arkie white trash Klintonoids and [c] Rolex watches. Inquiring minds, etc., etc.


6 posted on 07/19/2005 10:18:16 PM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: Bedford Forrest

Interesting hypothesis or question:

Follow the money?

(Was he independently rich or was Valerie or was he jsut a "frugal" professional FSO, who could afford Rolexes, fancy cars and vacations, his reportedly self-described "hot wife", etc.,

--- or was he a political appointee as Amb.?

(I, for one, don't claim to know.)


7 posted on 07/19/2005 10:24:59 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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To: FReethesheeples
Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?

Does a bear...?

8 posted on 07/19/2005 10:30:04 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: FReethesheeples
I've been convinced for several months (and posting it here on FR) that a self-centered blowhard like Joe Wilson - who is demonstrably fast and loose with the truth - probably told every every person in DC that Plame worked for CIA.

I include cabbies, waiters, and the trash man, not to mention all of his leftie reporter pals and of course his Northwest DC cocktail party milieu.
9 posted on 07/19/2005 10:30:33 PM PDT by angkor
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<< Inquiring Minds Want to Know! >>

What is the connexion, if any, 'twixt purported CIA consultant "Terrance Wilkinson" and Wilson=Plame???

10 posted on 07/19/2005 10:32:05 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: FReethesheeples; Bedford Forrest; Fudd Fan
Wilson later was stationed in Iraq. He recounts that on the eve of Saddam’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait he and Jacqueline dined with “Saddam’s principal arms buyer in Paris...” (Not something I would be talking about...)


11 posted on 07/19/2005 10:38:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Fudd Fan

Yes, a Bear does that.... and the Pope used to be Polish.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 10:46:57 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh

Re: << Inquiring Minds Want to Know! >>:

Your question:

"What is the connexion, if any, 'twixt purported CIA consultant "Terrance Wilkinson" and Wilson=Plame???"

I defer to you: Intriguing question for which you have more info than I, my friend.

Someone else asked this question the othe day in a different form.

Please illuminate! Help us on this.

Thanks!


13 posted on 07/19/2005 10:49:49 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: PhilDragoo

Brilliant humor, satire and cartoon.

Mega-kudos & Thanks!

I loved the part also about "later", "Paris," and "dining with Saddam's principal arms buyer."


14 posted on 07/19/2005 10:52:37 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: PhilDragoo

P.S. Thans for the LINK:
Wilson later was stationed in Iraq. He recounts that on the eve of Saddam’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait he and Jacqueline dined with “Saddam’s principal arms buyer in Paris...” (Not something I would be talking about...)

and for the: "Its like we totally made it up; We're cartoon Characters"


15 posted on 07/19/2005 10:54:20 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: FReethesheeples
How much longer are the DUmmies going to drag this dog-and-pony show to the press?

Don't they realize, that they are setting themselves for ANOTHER huge humiliation, like Rathergate?
16 posted on 07/19/2005 11:02:32 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( I plead the 5th amendment.)
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To: FReethesheeples

I am waiting for Wilson to confess..the only thing of interest he could possibly say in my opinion.


17 posted on 07/19/2005 11:03:54 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: operation clinton cleanup; sageb1; Smartass; listenhillary; Mia T; ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Plame-gate Media Ping!


18 posted on 07/19/2005 11:06:41 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: King Prout; Pride in the USA; lonevoice

CIA-Liberal Media Ping, Heads up!


19 posted on 07/19/2005 11:08:52 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: Rca2000

I presume you & I are correct: Re:

"How much longer are the DUmmies going to drag this dog-and-pony show to the press?"

"Don't they realize, that they are setting themselves for ANOTHER huge humiliation, like Rathergate?

Well put!


20 posted on 07/19/2005 11:12:50 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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