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To: Graymatter
It is well and fine whenever the rule of law is upheld, although upholding one's conscience is better and in fact prescribed by all of Western Civilization, at least ever since the Nuremberg Trials established such a precedence after the Nazi criminals tried to use the rule of law as an excuse for their wholesale, albeit perfectly lawful, butchery.

The problem with trying to use the rule of law when it applies to immigration is that one one ever decries the illegal Irish or Swedish nannies, and the ones who claim to want to see the rule of law upheld are the same ones who want to illegally deport U.S. adult citizens based upon their parentage rather than their birthplace.

Then there are the ones who use the rule of law as an excuse for their open hatred of people of a different race or culture, although these Buchanan-Democrat types are clearly in the minority.

And finally we are talking about a misdemeanor offense, and those who claim to want to uphold the rule of law have little problem remaining silent while others use bluster and bravado and call for capital punishment and summary executions for those committing misdemeanors.

The law was made for justice, not the other way around.

19 posted on 07/17/2005 9:40:37 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
It is well and fine whenever the rule of law is upheld, although upholding one's conscience is better and in fact prescribed by all of Western Civilization...

It is not in my NJ Motor Vehicle Driver's Manual. ;)

22 posted on 07/17/2005 9:59:43 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Cultural Jihad

Hi, CJ...may I ping you to another thread?


23 posted on 07/17/2005 10:02:19 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Summary executions? Where?


24 posted on 07/17/2005 10:42:16 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty (Crush the jihadists, drive their minions before you, and hear the whining of their mullahs!)
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To: Cultural Jihad; NormsRevenge
Dope. No one here wants to execute Swedish nannies. Or anyone else. Thats a substitute argument for someone without an argument.

We want the law enforced, period. If the economy requires a million immigrants per year, then lets have that debate openly, and lets bring them in legally. With papers. No more bodies abandoned in the desert.

If we really want to have a two-tiered labor system, with some people protected by the law and some left unprotected, lets have that debate.

If we really believe that cheap labor is the source of our prosperity, and we want some people covered by minimum wage and some not, then lets have that debate.

But the idea that we can't control our border is dishonest. We can. We just have to want to. The idea that border security is a racist issue is dishonest. Mexico doesn't open her factories to Honduran immigrants, they expel a couple hundred thousand illegals each year.

I know people who are in this situation. They are good people. Its a travesty. Its dishonest. Its hypocritical. Let them in legally or don't let them in. No more of this in-between-nonsense.
25 posted on 07/17/2005 11:07:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: Cultural Jihad
Then there are the ones who use the rule of law as an excuse for their open hatred of people of a different race or culture, although these Buchanan-Democrat types are clearly in the minority.

Don't forget to include the 47% of Hispanic voters who voted in favor of the anti-illegal alien measure Prop 200 in Arizona. I never realized that there were so many "anti-Hispanic" Hispanics in Arizona. I guess these Hispanic voters hate Hispanic illegal aliens because they're of a different race or culture, right?

34 posted on 07/18/2005 12:41:42 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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