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Border Secrets? (Tancredo on O'Reilly)
Fox News ^ | July 15, 2005 | N/A

Posted on 07/15/2005 6:25:57 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: O'REILLY: In the "Unresolved Problem" segment tonight, we continue our reporting on the chaotic border situation. As you may know, President Bush has proposed a new law that would allow illegal immigrants currently in this country to work toward citizenship if they fulfilled some requirements like having a job and staying out of trouble.

Apparently, the Bush administration ordered the border patrol to ask apprehended illegal aliens about the president's proposed new law. And one of the questions was, did the rumors of amnesty influence your decision to illegally enter the USA?

Now chances are you've never heard about any of this because there may have been a cover-up. The administration is accused of not releasing information about the survey to the public.

One of those making the accusation is Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo, who joins us now from Washington. You really think they covered this up?

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; border; bordersecurity; bsalert; bushamnesty; coverup; gummintgiveaways; illegalaliens; immigration; invasionusa; lies; security; tancredo; tinfoil; whitewash
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1 posted on 07/15/2005 6:25:57 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
As you may know, President Bush has proposed a new law that would allow illegal immigrants currently in this country to work toward citizenship if they fulfilled some requirements like having a job and staying out of trouble

The President never said such a thing. They have to go the back of the line and apply for citizenship from their home country.

2 posted on 07/15/2005 6:28:47 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Well, since they messedup big time with Rove, it looks like the next item on their agenda has come up.

I guess now we will have 2 or 3 weeks of wall to wall coverage of this!

3 posted on 07/15/2005 6:34:13 PM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Dane
They have to go the back of the line and apply for citizenship from their home country.

If we can't get them to leave now, how are we going to get them to leave in 5-7 years when their guest worker permits (if it passes) expires?

4 posted on 07/15/2005 6:40:25 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: RoyalsFan
If we can't get them to leave now, how are we going to get them to leave in 5-7 years when their guest worker permits (if it passes) expires?

Easy, deport them. They will be documented. Most want to go back home anyway and if they want full citizenship, they go to the back of the line and apply from their home countries.

This is what Bush has proposed, not the blanket amnesty tancredo and o'reilly are saying and actually included in the mckennedy bill.

The Kyl/Cornyn bill is actually much closer to the President's proposal.

5 posted on 07/15/2005 6:46:19 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
TANCREDO: Yes. Here it is. Analysis of the raw data from the survey forms indicate, one, 45 percent crossed illegally based on rumors of the Bush administration amnesty. Forty-five percent. Sixty-three percent received Mexican government or media information supporting the notion of a Bush administration amnesty. Sixty-four percent have been in the United States previously illegally. Eighty percent said they were going to apply for amnesty.

Lovely.

6 posted on 07/15/2005 7:00:02 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: RoyalsFan; Travis McGee; 4.1O dana super trac pak; DoughtyOne; Sterco; blackie

President Bush's proposal to reward illegal aliens with legal status would allow illegal aliens accepted into the President's work permit program to remain in the United States to apply for permanent U.S. residency. Here is a link to a Fox News story about the President's proposal to reward illegal aliens with legal status: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107707,00.html . According to the Fox story, "workers accepted into the program would be allowed to immediately, with an employer's sponsorship, begin applying for a U.S. green card, whcih allows permanent residency." The Fox story states that "[a]lthough these workers would get no advantage over others already in the long line for green cards, an illegal immigrant who attempted to apply now would simply be deported."

Bill O'Reilly and Cong. Tancredo accurately characterized the President's plan to reward illegal aliens with legal status.


7 posted on 07/15/2005 7:39:20 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: RoyalsFan

I meant to include in the reply that I just posted the fact that neither Cong. Tancredo nor Bill O'Reilly ever called the President's plan a "blanket amnesty."

The President's plan would reward millions of illegal aliens that have intentionally violated this nation's immigration laws with legal status.


8 posted on 07/15/2005 7:43:41 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: basil

There shouldn't be a conservative in this country that is happy with the border policy of this administration.The security at our borders is so ridiculous that it makes the president look like a fool when he claims he is doing everything in his power to protect the homeland.He should be thrown out of office for putting the lives of every American in danger so he can kiss the ass of the Mexican president.


9 posted on 07/15/2005 7:46:58 PM PDT by rdcorso (To Fight And Win The War On Terror We Must Secure Our Borders Now.)
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To: RoyalsFan
If we can't get them to leave now, how are we going to get them to leave in 5-7 years when their guest worker permits (if it passes) expires?

Simple, you won't.

10 posted on 07/15/2005 7:49:51 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth; Soul Seeker; adam_az; Marine Inspector; Founding Father; TAquinas; janetgreen; onyx; ..

Illegals living in the United States of American should voluntarily return to their home country or be deported.


12 posted on 07/15/2005 7:57:57 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Uhhuh35

This story deserves two to three weeks of wall-to-wall coverage.


13 posted on 07/15/2005 8:00:21 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: rdcorso

Amen. Tancredo/Allen 08!


14 posted on 07/15/2005 8:07:06 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I still say to get the illegals out is so easy but we(Gov't) don't have the nads to do it.

First thing is to not allow anyone not a citizen to be hired. We have the technology to do this now.

Do away with the anchor babies clause that allows the family to come in.

Then as POTUS I would declare that if you are here illegally you must deport yourself within ? of time. If you don't leave you will subjected to a huge fine and deportation.

I can dream and I know it won't happen. This country is not run by the people any more.

We will awake when it's too late. If I were 10 years younger I would have been with the(as W called then) vigilantes.


15 posted on 07/15/2005 8:19:56 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (I can hear it now, Hi, I'm Hillary and I'm here to help.)
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To: varmintxer

Any one with any experience in a developing country knows that if you give any kind of amnesty..tax, car licenses whatever..you will have to go it again and it only encourages more scoff laws. In the Philippines no one would renew their car licenses because they knew there was always and amnesty or the Govt would run out of new tags or something..so screw the law.
The Reagan era amnesty just generated another wave of illegals..


16 posted on 07/15/2005 8:26:41 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Illegals living in the United States of American should voluntarily return to their home country or be deported.

That would take implementing some serious measures, but could be done, and done efficiently during law enforcement stops, at DMVs, courts, businesses, jails, etc. A lot of Mid-Eastern types that are here illegally too, would also be removed. A big plus.

The problem is, there are a lot of people benefiting financially from this, so it would be a problem with them.

It's actually getting to the point where there seems to be little choice. Either get serious, or keep moving and eventually have a country made up mostly of people that are here illegally.

17 posted on 07/15/2005 8:29:06 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: rdcorso
He should be thrown out of office for putting the lives of every American in danger so he can kiss the ass of the Mexican president.

You said it, and I agree.

18 posted on 07/15/2005 8:39:26 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Dane

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107707,00.html

"But workers accepted into the program would be allowed to immediately, with an employer's sponsorship, begin applying for a green card, which allows permanent U.S. residency. Although these workers would get no advantage over other applicants already in the long line for green cards, an illegal immigrant who attempted to apply now would simply be deported."


19 posted on 07/15/2005 8:39:58 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Dane

"Easy, deport them."

What are we waiting for? This should already be happening. Isn't the "matricula consular" sufficient documentation proving the person who possesses it is an illegal?


20 posted on 07/15/2005 8:47:02 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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