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China pastor on trial over Bibles
BBC ^ | 7/6/05

Posted on 07/06/2005 10:53:44 PM PDT by Crackingham

The leader of an underground Chinese church is due to appear in a Beijing court on Thursday, accused of illegally printing more than 200,000 Bibles. Cai Zhuohua, along with his wife and two other church members, has been charged with "illegal business practices", his lawyers have said.

The Protestant pastor has already been in detention for 10 months.

Although Bibles are not illegal in China, only one firm is permitted by the state to print them.

The country's Christians are also only allowed to worship in state-approved churches, although many people prefer to attend underground or "house" churches such as Pastor Cai's.

Mr Cai's lawyer, Gao Zhisheng, conceded that he was not optimistic about the verdict for the three detainees.

"It is impossible for them to be found innocent, but I have confidence to strive for lighter sentences," Mr Gao told the French news agency AFP.

"The books in no way were going to enter the market, they were to be given away free of charge to the church members," he added.

"The court should not be used to oppress religion and religious freedoms, but the authorities are always using economics as a pretext to deal with religious and political issues."


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1 posted on 07/06/2005 10:53:44 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

These three people have real guts.


2 posted on 07/06/2005 10:56:13 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: Crackingham; TheTruthess; USF; Fred Nerks; Dark Skies; appalachian_dweller; Bennett46; bygrace85; ..
Prayers for Cai Zhuohua.

How many of us take owning a Bible for granted?
3 posted on 07/06/2005 11:06:57 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Laus Deo)
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To: Crackingham

Kind of puts out freedoms into perspective, doesn't it?

And far too many Christians here are afraid to witness to others - primarily because of social fears. Yet these brave folks literally put their lives on the line to spread the Gospel.

Prayers for these heroes. That they not be made martyres for this.


4 posted on 07/06/2005 11:07:46 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: Crackingham
The Protestant pastor has already been in detention for 10 months. Although Bibles are not illegal in China, only one firm is permitted by the state to print them.

Note how the reporter carries the party line for the ChiComs. Should be a simple matter to get a Bible then. Just order one from that company. What's the problem?

Religious freedom is not a ChiCom belief. I'd like to know how many Bibles that company has printed and sold...and if the authorities "register" those who buy a Bible from this "one firm". That'd make for good journalism now wouldn't it? instead of just reporting the party line.

5 posted on 07/06/2005 11:17:08 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Crackingham

Communist State approved version must have nuggets of wisdom like, "Render unto the State, what is the State's, and obey the State for this is good."

Or, "Unto the meek and the humble shall fall the blessings of the State."

And, "Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's cow. Report all unauthorized possessions to your district bailiff."


6 posted on 07/06/2005 11:31:01 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: F15Eagle

Absolutely.
I saw that article and am praying for the pastor and the people in China.


9 posted on 07/07/2005 1:45:56 AM PDT by Cindy
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Hey, what's 200,000 Bibles? How many AK-47 type rifles did the Chinese supply to all sorts of terrorist organisations?

May Heaven protect this brave man, wherever he may be and in whatever he has to endure.


10 posted on 07/07/2005 1:58:08 AM PDT by Bazooka (Just say what you think. They hate our guts anyway.)
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To: Crackingham

Wait until the Lefties hear about this. This is soo much worse than falsifying a story about flushing a koran. The Libs will pitch a furious fit about this one.


11 posted on 07/07/2005 2:00:16 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Wait until the Lefties hear about this. This is soo much worse than falsifying a story about flushing a koran. The Libs will pitch a furious fit about this one.

Either you forgot your sarcasm tag or you meant to say that the Libs' party will reach a furious pitch.


12 posted on 07/07/2005 3:27:50 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: freedomfiter2

Good sarcasm needs no tag.


13 posted on 07/07/2005 3:58:03 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Good sarcasm needs no tag.

Obviously, even I knew what you were saying.


14 posted on 07/07/2005 4:11:20 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Crackingham; F15Eagle
The Church is more alive and closer to God during times of great persecution.

Christ promised: "In the world, you will have tribulation. If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you for my namesake."

Persecution is also coming upon Believers in the United States.

15 posted on 07/07/2005 4:28:43 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Crackingham

bibles? bibles? hang him.

Idiots.


16 posted on 07/07/2005 4:34:59 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: jan in Colorado
How many of us take owning a Bible for granted?

. . . and allow it to collect dust.

May the Lord be glorified through these people.

17 posted on 07/07/2005 9:26:39 AM PDT by TheTruthess (love Him - live in Him)
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