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More Blackjack [Pershing] Lessons...
Arutz Sheva ^ | 5-5-05 | Gerald A. Honigman

Posted on 07/05/2005 6:02:33 PM PDT by SJackson

Arango, a.k.a. Pancho Villa, murdered and terrorized Americans in several Mexico-US boundary states in the early part of the last century.

One particularly gruesome atrocity occurred in January, 1916, when seventeen Texas businessmen were removed from a train in Santa Ysabel, Mexico, and executed in cold blood. A few months later, Villa struck again inside the United States, hitting Columbus, New Mexico.

President Woodrow Wilson had exercised restraint up until that point, recognizing that Villa was an opponent of Mexican President Carranza. Now, however, Wilson informed -- he didn't ask -- Carranza that America was sending Brigadier General John J. ("Blackjack") Pershing along with some 5,000 troops, aircraft and motorized vehicles, to take care of business since the Mexicans themselves couldn't or wouldn't. While a diplomatic catch worked somewhat against Blackjack's expedition (to help keep Carranza in power), the message was still clear. Blackjack moved in to Mexico to clean house and stayed for many a moon.

Almost a century later, Israel -- about the size of the state of New Jersey -- is faced with a similar predicament, but light years worse in intensity. Pancho Villa, after all, had no intention of destroying the United States or killing all of its citizens. And America, even then, was an emerging super power, spread out 3,000 miles from coast to coast. Israel, on the contrary, faces a good cop/bad cop team, both sides of which agree that a Jewish State, whatever its size, has no right to exist in the region; although, they differ on timing, tactics and strategy as to how to bring about Israel's destruction.

America now has a separation fence built to keep Mexicans -- seeking employment, not looking to blow up Americans -- out of the country. Israel has been brought to court for building such a fence, designed to keep Arabs from disemboweling its kids. And it has caved in to American pressure to render that fence virtually useless in key areas by not granting its route the buffer area in the disputed territories permitted by Resolution 242, the supposed guide for peacemaking.

Even with a somewhat adequate buffer, the fence could be a source of problems for an IDF in hot pursuit and such. Still, the fence's assets outweigh its liabilities. And, if Israel does what it needs to do and insists on the territorial compromise in the disputed territories it's supposed to get to give it "secure and recognized borders" instead of the '49 armistice lines, which turned it into a nine-mile-wide rump state until 1967, the fence will be even more effective.

Given this, we still have to deal with the reality of mortars, Kassam rockets and such increasingly being fired over the fence into Israeli communities. It's been reported that Hamas is now openly bragging about this intention.

This should come as a surprise to no one. The destruction in phases plans the Arabs have for Israel don't end with an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

So, it's now time for Israel to send Abbas and the rest of the PA a similar message Wilson sent to Carranza in 1916. I'll even word it for Israel's leaders.

Dear President Abbas:

We are tired of the game playing, so I will be blunt in this message.

If the terror against our people persists, and you -- for whatever reasons -- can't or won't stop it, then we will do whatever it takes to stop it ourselves. Every state has a right to defend itself and its citizens. We will let the Arab communities know of this intent. Their fate will thus be in your and in their own hands.

As your friend, President Bush, has said, those who aid and harbor terrorists will share in their fate. The Geneva Conventions' definition of "perfidy" and other clauses allows us to target those places which are used to attack us and to place the blame for any civilian casualties which may occur on the shoulders of those who use their own populations as human shields.

If Jews continue to be terrorized from lands turned over to Arab control, the latter will be targeted -- again, in self defense -- by Israeli artillery, aircraft and whatever other means is necessary. If we are forced to invade because you can't or won't stop these attacks against our people, then I am telling you now that the retaliation will be devastating.

Each Kassam fired at us will be answered tenfold, a la former Secretary of State Colin Powell's overwhelming force doctrine regarding America's own enemies.

If you intend and/or act to destroy our state (regardless of your method) and kill our people, then you are our enemy.

We will not be bound to play the game by your rules, regardless of the international hypocrites who will rally to your support. They would have buried you and your buddies long ago had they been subjected to what they expect us to put up with.

Pass this on to your Hamas and Islamic Jihad counterparts. The days of fighting them with one hand tied behind our backs are fast disappearing. Many will be meeting their awaiting 72 virgins in Paradise before long. And we will be taking them out hundreds at a time; forget about targeted killings and endangering the lives of our own 19-year-old infantrymen. We have much more effective means at our disposal and will finally begin to use them.

While we want peace for both of our peoples, no nation would tolerate being attacked by its neighbors.

So take heed.

Sincerely...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; blackjackpershing; lessons; panchovilla; terrorists; woodrowwilson

1 posted on 07/05/2005 6:02:34 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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2 posted on 07/05/2005 6:04:24 PM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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To: SJackson
America now has a separation fence built to keep Mexicans -- seeking employment, not looking to blow up Americans -- out of the country.

I stopped right there. This gent needs to check his facts. The fence is a joke. Terrorists cross it regularly.

3 posted on 07/05/2005 6:25:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: SJackson
Interesting that Pershing and his troops were used to guard the border with Mexico and later chased Poncho back into Mexico. Where is a modern Gen. Pershing with his army on the southern border today?

In January, 1914, General Pershing took command of the Eighth Brigade, with headquarters at the Presidio in San Francisco. There was trouble along the Mexican border, however, and he soon was called to take command of a large mobile force guarding the border under the general supervision of General Frederick Funston. Living conditions were hard ...

4 posted on 07/05/2005 6:28:55 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: SJackson
Brigadier General John J. ("Blackjack") Pershing Addresses the United States from France

"Three thousand miles from home, an American army is fighting for you." (American field headquarters, Chaumont, France, April 4, 1918)(click to listen)

5 posted on 07/05/2005 6:33:44 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: SJackson
America now has a separation fence built to keep Mexicans -- seeking employment, not looking to blow up Americans -- out of the country.

The writer obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.

6 posted on 07/05/2005 6:34:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Carry_Okie
The fence is a joke.

No fence at all at Big Bend. Other places you might find a three strand cattle fence.

7 posted on 07/05/2005 6:36:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SJackson; Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Boazo; Brad's Gramma; Smartass; F15Eagle; ...
Who knows where we can find another General John (BlackJack) Pershing to dispel this hostile invasion?

(This time we need an "Ace.")

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Pancho Villa, murdered and terrorized Americans in several Mexico-US boundary states in the early part of the last century.

One particularly gruesome atrocity occurred in January, 1916, when seventeen Texas businessmen were removed from a train in Santa Ysabel, Mexico, and executed in cold blood. A few months later, Villa struck again inside the United States, hitting Columbus, New Mexico.

President Woodrow Wilson had exercised restraint up until that point, recognizing that Villa was an opponent of Mexican President Carranza. Now, however, Wilson informed -- he didn't ask -- Carranza that America was sending Brigadier General John J. ("Blackjack") Pershing along with some 5,000 troops, aircraft and motorized vehicles, to take care of business since the Mexicans themselves couldn't or wouldn't.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 6:53:39 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Carry_Okie; SJackson; All
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Is There A Backbone In The House?
Men who shot Border Patrol agents wore black military-style garb


9 posted on 07/05/2005 6:55:38 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: SJackson
The story of Pancho Villa is one of the most fascinating stories there is. He was a product of a world where life is cheap.

Villa led a revolution that took over Mexico. After taking power he implemented his promises (however misguided) and then simply stepped away from power.

He may have been a violent person, but he was obviously sincere.

10 posted on 07/05/2005 7:01:04 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: PAR35

"The writer obviously doesn't know what he is talking about."

Could be an Israeli unfamiliar with America.


11 posted on 07/05/2005 7:12:45 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: SJackson
Gen D. MacAuthor was his first action in Mexico, he lead a "Special forces" team into the interior of Mexico to destroy/Capiture a rail line. Very dangerous mission and the soon to be General damn near got killed. Would have been nominated for very high decorations but since the mission "never happened" be was never decorated.
12 posted on 07/05/2005 7:15:58 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: strategofr
"Could be an Israeli unfamiliar with America."

That would be my guess, anyone not an American would figure our southern (northen) border were some what secure. Nobody would guess that they are wide open!

13 posted on 07/05/2005 7:17:52 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: SJackson
Dear President Abbas:

(Lots of words follow)

So take heed.

Sincerely...

Sorry, no sale. The time is long past to stop selling woof tickets and just start killing, mercilessly and without prejudice, the terrorists who wish Israel and its citizens harm.

14 posted on 07/05/2005 7:27:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: A.B.Normal

And this was the first use of tactical battlefield aircraft....

Makes you wonder what John J could have done with an operational squadron of AH160s.......or A-10s


15 posted on 07/05/2005 8:07:19 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: SJackson
"America now has a separation fence built to keep Mexicans -- seeking employment, not looking to blow up Americans -- out of the country."

HUH??


16 posted on 07/05/2005 10:26:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SJackson

bttt


17 posted on 07/06/2005 10:10:58 AM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: jpsb

"Nobody would guess that they are wide open!"

I am laughing at your comment, but without mirth.


18 posted on 07/06/2005 10:57:44 AM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: ASOC
The one reason we don't have any :Black Jack" Pershing now is because we do not have any Theodore Roosevelt! The man is my favorite president of all.
19 posted on 07/06/2005 11:36:11 AM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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