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ON STAGE IN NEW YORK: The Reverend and the Rapist
dfu | 6-27-05 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 06/27/2005 1:51:56 PM PDT by doug from upland

AP STORY

From the article or Rev. Graham's American revival meeting in New York:

"I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it," said Clinton, who was joined by his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "I've loved him ever since. God bless you, friend."

Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."

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When some of you read the above, it probably evoked projectile vomiting. I fought it off. The words of Rev. Graham were not welcome to my ears.

I phoned his offices and let the girl who takes messages know how much I have admired him and how disappointed that he made the comment about Hillary. I told her about Juanita Broaddrick and Easter Sunday in 1996 with the intern right after Easter Service. I let her know that it is the Clintons who mock religion.

The girl calmly told me that the reverend made the statement as a joke, it shouldn't be taken out of context, and he is not endorsing Hillary Clinton or the Democratic Party. My suggestion to her was that he should make a public statement and clear the record.

Regarding Broaddrick, she said that she doesn't know if Clinton has asked God for forgiveness. That is between the former president and God. By comment was that he should make a public apology to his victims, and Hillary should make a public apology to his victims, the ones she went after behind the scenes.

Reverend Graham, please clear the record.

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To: nmh

Unfortunately, the Clintons have fooled people of faith over and over.


121 posted on 06/27/2005 8:13:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland
"Unfortunately, the Clintons have fooled people of faith over and over."

Some want to be fooled. No kidding!

The ideology of a Democrat is totally at odds with what the Bible teaches. At one time there wasn't such an extreme difference but today you cannot reconcile it with what Christians, those that follow what is in the Bible teaches. So who they have "faith" in certainly isn't in Christ.

You shouldn't be surprised that people of "faith" would believe silly hill.

Matt.7:14

[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

There are many lost souls out there who have misplaced their "faith".
122 posted on 06/27/2005 8:43:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: OldFriend
Not speaking ill of anyone? Therein lies the problem.

I disagree. Billy Graham feels he was called to preach the gospel, not judge the sins of others. I agree there are absolutes, and some of us are called to hammer on such things. That is not Billy's calling.

123 posted on 06/28/2005 6:30:44 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: presently no screen name
it's a from cry from "judging the sins of everyone else' to what he implied by his statement.

It was a joke, a quip, a light moment. Sheesh.

I can't believe 'conservatives' are pulling the same kind of crap the looney left has done with Trent Lott and the like.

124 posted on 06/28/2005 6:32:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: doug from upland

enabler


125 posted on 06/28/2005 6:35:56 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: mariabush

"But this wasn't a one time statement. I always loved Dr. Graham, until I heard him say how much he admired Bill Clinton on Larry King. I could not help being so disappointed."

I heard that too and it was hard to keep the bile from rising in my throat LOL. I have just been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and figure that the Parkinson's is eating away at his brain.


126 posted on 06/28/2005 7:42:46 AM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (If we do not pray for our leaders, we cannot expect them to do what is right.)
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To: mariabush

I grew up a Southern Baptist too and I never heard that rule, and if there is one, no one in my church regarded it LOL.


127 posted on 06/28/2005 7:45:06 AM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (If we do not pray for our leaders, we cannot expect them to do what is right.)
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To: Lemondropkid31

Me too!!


128 posted on 06/28/2005 8:09:10 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: MEGoody

There are two part to preaching the gospel. One has to be aware of the sin before they can accept the grace of God. I don't see how that you can separate the two.


129 posted on 06/28/2005 8:12:59 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: MEGoody

It was a joke, a quip, a light moment. Sheesh.

I can't believe 'conservatives' are pulling the same kind of crap




I heard the repeat last night - BG said he told Clinton that he should become an evangelist after he left office because he has 'all the gifts'.

Tell me, what should anyone get upset about?

It's a joke, it's a mistake, it isn't important, it's old news, that's the way they are, no big deal everyone knows the truth.

There always seems to be a reason, an excuse, for one to 'stuff' their concerns. Perhaps this is why our Republican politicians are weak in the knees - there is always 'someone' telling to 'Sheesh let it go'.


130 posted on 06/28/2005 9:09:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

You have missed the point. We are not upset about the Clinton becoming an evangelist comment. That is an obvious joke. We are upset that Hillary is going to use Rev. Graham's comment about her becoming president as an endorsement. She will play the hell out of that with decent people in red states. Count on that. She is demonic.


131 posted on 06/28/2005 9:34:59 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

Graham had to be on crack!


132 posted on 06/28/2005 9:42:17 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: doug from upland
I don't think I missed the point. Of course, hillary will use WHAT she can and WHO she can to further her agenda. That is one reason, NO ONE should give her ammunition.

But now we have a world wide minister giving them ammunition. It has already played out in the media. Side note: there are many who hang on what Billy says - if Billy says it - it is gospel.

WE KNOW THE DEAL - but think of the masses who just don't get it - remember the close elections.
133 posted on 06/28/2005 9:45:08 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
I heard the repeat last night - BG said he told Clinton that he should become an evangelist after he left office because he has 'all the gifts'.

Tell me, what should anyone get upset about?

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I responded to you because you mentioned the evangelist quip, not the Hillary quip. I was specific. You did miss the point.

134 posted on 06/28/2005 10:26:20 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

You are right - I didn't include that part of her 'running the country'.

I see them as ONE force - she's under his umbrella. She's married to someone who has the 'gifts' to become an evangelist.

Either it was a joke - re: him or her
or BG expressed how he felt.

If it was a joke - then he doesn't feel that BC has the gifts to be an evangelist and she doesn't have what it takes to be prez. So, basically, he was judging/condemning them.
Right? And since we were told over and over - Billy doesn't judge, yet we are to believe it was a joke.
Seems like a mixed message.

Learning what I did here - about BG's CNN interview - for some reason, I think BG was either expressing what he believes or he was submitting to political powers to get along. In my book, neither is good.

I do not care what he personally thinks about anyone, it's when he has an audience and he is preaching the gospel and, then, he throws in 'his own' beliefs and/or because of submission to political powers.

NOTE: If he said Hillary should stay home and bake cookies - that would be a joke and with no misunderstanding - but that wasn't said or implied.


135 posted on 06/28/2005 11:05:32 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Thanks for the response. If anyone is taking Hillary too lighting, it is a fatal mistake. She will do absolutley anything to get back into the White House.


136 posted on 06/28/2005 11:10:57 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: presently no screen name
There always seems to be a reason, an excuse, for one to 'stuff' their concerns. Perhaps this is why our Republican politicians are weak in the knees - there is always 'someone' telling to 'Sheesh let it go'.

Okay, don't let it go. Waste your time worrying about a quip. No skin off my nose. Too bad you can think of more important things to get your hackles up.

137 posted on 06/29/2005 6:00:34 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: mariabush
One has to be aware of the sin before they can accept the grace of God.

And who is it you think isn't aware of sin?

138 posted on 06/29/2005 6:01:20 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

The non-Christian.


139 posted on 06/29/2005 7:05:06 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


140 posted on 06/29/2005 7:16:19 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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