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American Churches Shown Door as Gay Row Deepens
TimesOnline ^ | June 23, 2005 | Ruth Gledhill

Posted on 06/26/2005 6:51:40 PM PDT by prairiebreeze

THE Anglican Church moved closer to schism yesterday when members of its central administrative council formally asked the Churches of Canada and the US to go. Unconvinced by the justifications offered by both Churches on Tuesday for their actions in ordaining an openly homo- sexual bishop and authorising same-sex blessings, members of the Anglican Consultative Council meeting in Nottingham asked them to leave the council and its central finance and standing committees.

Although the motion invites the Churches to withdraw voluntarily, it amounts in effect to a punishing expulsion. The debate was held behind closed doors at Nottingham Univers-ity yesterday, and the motion was passed 30 to 28 by secret ballot, with four abstentions.

The Anglican Consultative Council is one of the four “instruments of unity” of the worldwide Anglican Church but it is the only one that has a legal constitution. Based in Britain, it is in effect the central administrative body of the Anglican Communion worldwide.

The primates of the Anglican Church, meeting in Dromantine, in Ireland, in February, had also asked the US and Canadian Churches to withdraw from this week’s meeting in Nottingham. They did so in theory, and turned up as observers only. But with the additional representatives who also turn- ed up to make their presentations, it appeared to observers that one effect of the crisis had been to augment, not decrease, the North American presence in Anglican governing matters.

However, the US and Canad-ian delegates were excluded from the meeting yesterday afternoon, in keeping with their voluntary withdrawal.

The meeting also endorsed the 1998 Lambeth Conference resolution which took a traditionalist line on human sexuality but also called for “listening” to the gay and lesbian community.

The expulsion is effective until Lambeth 2008, when bishops and archbishops are expected to call the North Americans to account.

If there were any doubt left about the serious nature of the rift, this week’s meeting has made clear how far from agreement both sides appear to be, and the extent to which neither is willing to compromise.

The motion was put forward by leaders of the orthodox wing. The Dean of St Paul’s, Dr John Moses, one of the Church of England’s three representatives, called unsuccessfully for a two-thirds majority if it was to be passed.

The US Church, as made clear in its Tuesday presentation, has been developing its theology in favour of ordinations of homosexuals for 40 years and regards itself as a pioneer.

To the Africans, Asians and other fast-growing churches of the “Global South”, the issue of homosexual rights represents not liberation but the threat of another enslavement, to decadent Western liberalism.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; anglicanchurch; antigay; banned; cults; ecusa; episcopal; europeanchristians; expulsion; fallout; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; idolatry; lambeth; perverts; religiousleft; schism
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The US Church, as made clear in its Tuesday presentation, has been developing its theology in favour of ordinations of homosexuals for 40 years and regards itself as a pioneer.
1 posted on 06/26/2005 6:51:41 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: prairiebreeze

Yeah... a pioneer on the road to hell


2 posted on 06/26/2005 6:56:12 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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Pioneers in sodomy. That is truly rich!

Hope they are thrown out for good.
3 posted on 06/26/2005 6:56:31 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: prairiebreeze

>>THE Anglican Church moved closer to schism yesterday

ROFL.. they've been there for a couple a hundred years or so..


5 posted on 06/26/2005 7:03:59 PM PDT by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: DLfromthedesert

You rock! Couldn't have said it better myself.


6 posted on 06/26/2005 7:04:31 PM PDT by TurtleStink
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To: DLfromthedesert

You rock! Couldn't have said it better myself.


7 posted on 06/26/2005 7:04:56 PM PDT by TurtleStink
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To: prairiebreeze

God didn't stand for the sexual sins going on at Sodom & Gomorah but for so long. If anybody thinks the Lord is gonna sit idly by and watch this country slide into that same pit without unleashing something big is fooling themselves.


8 posted on 06/26/2005 7:05:03 PM PDT by diverteach
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The US Church, as made clear in its Tuesday presentation, has been developing its theology in favour of ordinations of homosexuals for 40 years and regards itself as a pioneer.

Why do I get the feeling that gay rights is probably the most important issue in this "church". How long before they decide Jesus was gay and that only gay clergy can properly interpret the scriptures? Its amazing to me how a onld and (supposedly) stable religious institution allowed itself to be hijacked by a bunch of pervs.


9 posted on 06/26/2005 7:06:06 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: prairiebreeze

You'd think that with the Europeans taking the lead on this, the American liberals would follow. Afterall, they've got no brains of their own.


10 posted on 06/26/2005 7:06:58 PM PDT by Brilliant
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developing its theology in favour of ordinations of homosexuals for 40 years

Sub rosa at first, but much more "bravely" as the deck is stacked.

11 posted on 06/26/2005 7:09:52 PM PDT by niteowl77 (Dick Durbin's mouth has caused more deaths than my gun.)
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The US Church, as made clear in its Tuesday presentation, has been developing its theology in favour of ordinations of homosexuals for 40 years..."

Ooooooh! 40 years... I guess that overrules 5,000 years of Judeo-Christian theology, doesn't it?

12 posted on 06/26/2005 7:10:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: bill1952

My father used to attend an Episcopal church, and sometimes I would go with.
Now, let's just say we've found a home somewhere else. And if that somewhere else adopts these policies, I'll move on again.


13 posted on 06/26/2005 7:11:21 PM PDT by mowkeka (Anybody but McCain.)
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To: bill1952
Pioneers in sodomy. That is truly rich!

Yup, "Sodomite Sodbusters".

14 posted on 06/26/2005 7:12:09 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: prairiebreeze

The Anglican Church in Canada and the US will not be
"homeless" if they're cut loose by the main body of the
Church.The Unitarian/Universalist "Church" would be happy to take them on as fellow travelers,thus adding voices to
the chorus about The Ten Suggestions.


15 posted on 06/26/2005 7:17:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: William Creel
We need to take America back from the homosexuals, and the liberals who enable them.

The DEMOCRATIC Party that enables them.

Let's get that straight, shall we?

LVM

16 posted on 06/26/2005 7:26:33 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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later pingout.


18 posted on 06/26/2005 7:56:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: rbg81

Gene Robinson, the "gay" "bishop", has already said that Jesus was likely homosexual. I don't think he actually said the word, but that was his very clear meaning. There were a couple of articles on FR about it a while ago.


19 posted on 06/26/2005 7:58:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: prairiebreeze
I was in seminary in the Episcopal Church from 1972-76. That's 30 years ago, give or take. Back then when people said that the use of artificial birth control and the ordination of women would lead to the approval of homosexual behavior, they were mocked. It was clearly and repeatedly asserted that there was no linkage and that to approve either of those did not in any way imply an approval of homosexual behavior.

So somebody's lying. Either they lied to me in seminary or they're lying when they say they've been working on this for 40 years.

Anyway, I'm in the Catholic Church now and I'm sure glad I'm out of that fight. The beauty and tradition of the Episcopal Church now strike me as being like too much rouge on the cheeks of a 50 year old syphilitic whore. That fantasy was delightful, the reality is poisonous.

20 posted on 06/26/2005 8:02:17 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Allahu Fubar! (with apologies to Sheik Yerbouty))
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