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Woodward's Debt to Deep Throat (Sydney H. Schanberg of "The Killing Fields" tells Woodward: pay up)
The Village Voice ^ | June 21st, 2005 | Sydney H. Schanberg

Posted on 06/24/2005 7:33:43 PM PDT by summer

Woodward's Debt to Deep Throat

After the big stories, sometimes more than credit is due, sources say,


by Sydney H. Schanberg
June 21st, 2005 12:40 PM

  The Watergate story 33 years ago can be fairly marked as the starting point of the age of journalists as celebrities. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein weren't celebrities when they cracked the story for The Washington Post, but they soon would be, and a wave of emulators quickly began applying to journalism schools.

Woodward in particular has remained a celebrity and striver for attention. He has also been a diligent worker, turning out an assembly line of books, first about Watergate (written with Bernstein), but then solo books about the goings-on in lots of government high places in Washington. Most of them have been bestsellers, and Woodward has become wealthy.

Early next month, he will publish his latest book, titled The Secret Man: The Story of Watergate's Deep Throat. Simon & Schuster, Woodward's publisher, is putting out a first printing of 750,000 copies. It's likely to make a lot of money. But the man the book is about—Mark Felt, a former senior FBI official, who clandestinely guided and mentored Woodward and Bernstein through that investigation—apparently will not be sharing in the profits. Felt's family, acting at Felt's request, had some time ago asked Woodward for a collaboration on the book, and he declined.

Three weeks ago—in an authorized Vanity Fair article written by Felt's attorney, John D. O'Connor—the exchanges about a collaborative book were described. The article, as all of America now knows, revealed that Felt was "Deep Throat"—the name that Woodward and Bernstein gave to their pivotal confidential source, vowing not to reveal his identity until after his death. Woodward had pretty much finished his book when Felt, his health in decline, suddenly outed himself. The book is being rushed into print for a reported publication date of July 6.

That news led Felt and his family to seek a separate book contract. They reportedly received $75,000 from PublicAffairs, an independent publisher. There was also an option for film rights, but that would pay very little if the film did not come to fruition, as is often the case. Woodward's advance from Simon & Schuster was not made public, but if the first hardcover printing is 750,000, precedent says it would have to have been at least seven figures.

The question here is not whether Woodward is obligated to share earnings with Felt (he is not, unless a court orders him to) but whether, in such situations, journalists should take into account whether a source was merely helpful or instead a central partner right through the process, without whom the story would not have been the exemplary result that it was. The story, it turned out, was a career maker. If this is the case, should not the partner share in the rewards?

A standing ethical rule in journalism says you shouldn't pay sources for information. There are good reasons for this rule. If the source knows there could be money in the offing, he might embellish the information to get a fee, telling the reporter not the truth but what he thinks the reporter wants to hear. Those are the ingredients for a libel suit.

But, like all rules, it is not absolute. Sources come in all forms and sizes. In my reporting life, stringers, guides, and interpreters have taken me into places I could never have reached by myself and, once there, could never have understood what I was seeing and hearing without them at my side. I have shared rewards equally with Dith Pran, my partner in Cambodia in the 1970s—including the money from the film The Killing Fields. We call ourselves "brothers."

I have also shared writing fees with other guides in hairy foreign places. They took great risks to help me get the story.

I mention these examples not because I think my experiences are analogous to Woodward's with Felt, but because sometimes the people who help us with our stories are not just ships passing in the night, but something much more.

I am also not seeking to examine Felt's character or his motives. Those are beyond my knowledge. The issue for me turns only on the level of assistance he gave to Woodward and Bernstein.

Simon & Schuster, in its June 2 announcement of the coming Deep Throat book, said, I believe accurately: "Woodward will discuss how he first met W. Mark Felt and how the former FBI official became the legendary secret source whose insider guidance was so critical to The Washington Post's coverage of the Watergate scandal."

There are precedents for sharing on book projects. One obvious example was Gay Talese's Honor Thy Father in 1971, about the personal family of Joseph Bonanno, the head of a Mafia crime organization. Talese was given access to the Bonanno family history by Joseph's son, Bill Bonanno. The exquisitely written book was a major success both here and abroad. Talese set aside part of the profits to create trust funds for Bill Bonanno's four children, to whom he had dedicated the book.

I sought to interview Woodward for this piece and he did return my call, but only to explain that for now he was abstaining from further comments about the Deep Throat story. "I agreed not to do any interviews until the book came out," he said. I then explained the nature of my story, which I had not done to that point, and he responded: "Those are all fair questions. It's not because I'm trying to avoid anything but because I agreed that the book should come out first. I hope you understand."

I can understand why Simon & Schuster would want to control the promotional campaign at this stage. On major books, every publisher's goal is to keep public interest high and also keep the major TV interview shows salivating.

Woodward has until now been talking about Deep Throat at public appearances. He has mentioned, for example, that "he [Felt] has dementia." But what does this have to do with sharing profits on a book about events that happened long ago, before Felt's health ebbed?

In the Vanity Fair article by Felt's attorney, there is the following passage quoting Felt's daughter, Joan, a single mother, explaining what Woodward told her his concerns were:

"He's always been very gracious. We talked about doing a book with Dad, and I think he was considering. That was my understanding. He didn't say no at first. . . . Then he kept kind of putting me off on this book, saying, 'Joan, don't press me.' . . . For him the issue was competency: Was Dad competent to release him from the agreement the two of them made not to say anything until after Dad died?"

But a few days after Vanity Fair broke the Deep Throat story, Woodward wrote a roughly 5,000-word article for The Washington Post, tracing the history of his relationship with Felt. He made no mention of any book discussions with Felt or his family.

Woodward has always been unusually secretive about his reporting methods, which is his choice to make. I have come to believe, contrarily, that the more transparency about our journalistic processes and standards, the greater will be our credibility with the public.

Now that Mark Felt is no longer an anonymous source, more clarification would be a healthy thing.


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KEYWORDS: bookwoodward; deepthroat; felt; markfelt; profits; villagevoice; watergate; woodward
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That news led Felt and his family to seek a separate book contract. They reportedly received $75,000 from PublicAffairs, an independent publisher.

I'm surprised $75K is all that Felt was offered in his own book deal in this matter. (Didn't the Runaway Bride just get half a million?)

Also, Woodward's conduct in not wanting to collaborate with Felt, at this point, strikes me as somewhat odd. It's like Woodward-the-Author just can't stand to share that spotlight with anyone, even the main character of his book. It makes me much less interested in reading whatever he may write. I'd rather read a good book by an unknown author -- and briefly surf the talk shows for Woodward's book summary.
1 posted on 06/24/2005 7:33:44 PM PDT by summer
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To: Dog Gone

FYI.


2 posted on 06/24/2005 7:35:18 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Woodward would have risen to the top of the heap even if Watergate never happened.


3 posted on 06/24/2005 7:37:28 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

No way. He's had to "redact" several of his books for "inaccuracies."


4 posted on 06/24/2005 7:38:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: summer
If the Felt's want any of Bob Woodward's money, they're going to have to pry it from his cold, dead hands.

Otherwise, they'll have to wait until he dies.

5 posted on 06/24/2005 7:39:00 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: summer

Sidney has a lot of chutzbah...
His real photographer in Cambodia was beaten up pretty badly
for threatening to tell the real story of Sidney's
so called herosim....the week before the movie was released.


6 posted on 06/24/2005 7:39:01 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: durasell

There is something about his celebrity that is just a turn-off to me. Or maybe it's the way he handles it.


7 posted on 06/24/2005 7:39:05 PM PDT by summer
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To: joesnuffy
He says they are "brothers:"

I have shared rewards equally with Dith Pran, my partner in Cambodia in the 1970s—including the money from the film The Killing Fields. We call ourselves "brothers."
8 posted on 06/24/2005 7:40:12 PM PDT by summer
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To: joesnuffy

Or is there some other partner you meant?


9 posted on 06/24/2005 7:40:51 PM PDT by summer
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To: snarks_when_bored

LOL...


10 posted on 06/24/2005 7:41:15 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

I can understand that collaborating with Felt wouldn't interest Woodward.
This piece seems a little odd to me. Why would "The Killing Fields" guy give a hoot about Mark Felt? Why should Felt's hippie daughter get more money out of this?


11 posted on 06/24/2005 7:43:08 PM PDT by RedRover (Yeah, buddy.)
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To: summer

Neopolotano on Fox made the point that, if Felt accepts money from Woodward, it is the consummation of a bribe. He made the point that Felt, as a government official, engaged in an illegal act. Of course, it is well beyond any statute of limitations. But,when money is paid, that is the second part of the bribe, and the crime is current, dating from the time of the payment. I hope the money exchanges hands ( though of course, unfortuneatly, no legal action will ever follow)--at least, it can be called a bribe.


12 posted on 06/24/2005 7:45:14 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: summer

Because he's a journalist -- he shouldn't have celebrity. If Woodward and Bernstein can be blamed for anything, it's for creating the idea of the "celebrity journalist."


13 posted on 06/24/2005 7:45:40 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: summer
It would turn my stomach to see Felt, an FBI agent, a so-called public servent, get millions for ratting on the White House.

It already makes me nauseous to see Woodward get rich off this garbage.

14 posted on 06/24/2005 7:45:57 PM PDT by what's up
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To: RedRover

No, I think he is raising what he genuinely believes to be a very valid question and a timely issue for journalists - if your big career break comes as a result of an association with Person X, does Person X deserve to share in your mega-millions resulting from that story? Woodward obviously doesn't think so, but Felt's grandchildren -- who want to pay their college bills would disagree with Woodward.


15 posted on 06/24/2005 7:46:38 PM PDT by summer
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To: RedRover

Although taking that one step further - since the Runaway Bride's story would not have existed without the input and work of various law enforcement and public servants, should she hand over some of her half million to that city? I know she paid some restitution, but now she seems to have hit the jackpot. What if the response of the city had been, instead, so what, she ran away, and we're not looking for her. Maybe that's a stretch here, but maybe not. I feel the city workers and others who looked for her are more deserving of that money.


16 posted on 06/24/2005 7:52:47 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Woodward always planned to release the blockbuster book after Felt's death naming him and making himself a bazillionaire.

The release of Felt's name prior to his death greatly diminished the value of Woodward's book.

As to whether whatever profits should be shared with the source in such a case, I have no feeling because I have no sympathy for either party.

Felt violated his oath to release information to Woodward. He had other options if he wanted to get the truth out. And it has nothing to do with him getting or enjoying any wealth from his new notoriety. It's all about his heirs trying to get a bunch of money into his estate before he dies in the near future.

17 posted on 06/24/2005 7:54:18 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Dog, what do you mean here? He had other options if he wanted to get the truth out
18 posted on 06/24/2005 7:55:27 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

< I'm surprised $75K is all that Felt was offered in his own book deal in this matter. >

I think it's because they suspect it will be a flop. This story is sooo over.


19 posted on 06/24/2005 7:57:45 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (...stumbling across Bill Bennett on the radio is like bumping into Socrates at Starbucks.-K.Parker)
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To: summer
I have shared rewards equally with Dith Pran, my partner in Cambodia in the 1970s—including the money from the film The Killing Fields. We call ourselves "brothers."

You should have given Pran ALL the proceeds, as if it could ever be enough for selfishly getting him stranded in the Killing Fields to begin with, you sanctimonious bastard.

20 posted on 06/24/2005 7:58:12 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: summer

Felt wanted to destroy Nixon's presidency and he used Woodward and Bernstein to do it. Felt got what he wanted from Woodward and Bernstein. Woodward promised to never reveal Felt's identity. He kept his promise. I do not think he owes Felt or his family anything other than common courtesy. It appears to me that he has been courteous to the family.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 7:58:55 PM PDT by johndpringle
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To: summer

Senate Democrats


22 posted on 06/24/2005 8:00:34 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Are you saying Sentae Dems could have been a conduit for Felt?


23 posted on 06/24/2005 8:02:42 PM PDT by summer
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To: gusopol3

Make that "Senate" Dems.


24 posted on 06/24/2005 8:03:20 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

as far as it being "the truth" it was obviously a "limited hang-out" cuz he sure didn't want a careful investigation revealing the break-ins he was conducting himself.


25 posted on 06/24/2005 8:04:16 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: summer

Typical of leftist liberals....
They NEVER want their money to go to help others....
They want YOUR money to help others --- even their own allies, friends, parents, family, whores, bastard children, etc.....

Semper Fi


26 posted on 06/24/2005 8:05:00 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

LOL...


27 posted on 06/24/2005 8:05:53 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

yes--that's what Buchanan suggested when this broke a month ago: I think he actually said the Ervin committee, but that would be putting the cart before the horse timewise.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 8:07:42 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: summer
He didn't have to leak privileged information to a hostile press.

He could have contacted a US District Attorney and offered to provide testimony to a grand jury, or if he didn't think any of them would be receptive, he could have contacted Democrats in Congress.

The Democrats controlled Congress, and they would have gladly heard testimony that would have helped bring Nixon down.

Felt played it very coyly, orchestrating it so that the media brought Nixon down. It worked. His political agenda to destroy Nixon worked, probably better than his legal alternatives would have.

But in doing so, he made himself no better than the people he was fingering. Two wrongs don't make a right unless it involves attacking a Republican.

29 posted on 06/24/2005 8:08:21 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: summer
I'm surprised $75K is all that Felt was offered in his own book deal in this matter. (Didn't the Runaway Bride just get half a million?)

Runaway Bride isn't 90 years old and can remember what she had for lunch yesterday. Anything said to be written by Felt at this point would be highly suspect, unless he wrote down stuff years ago.

30 posted on 06/24/2005 8:10:02 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: summer
I'm surprised $75K is all that Felt was offered in his own book deal in this matter. (Didn't the Runaway Bride just get half a million?)

If Felt is in ill health and is suffering from dementia, he's lucky to get a $75K offer. Writing a book is hard, difficult, time consuming work. Felt is likely not up to the task and his memory is failing.

Big risks for the publisher here. On the other hand, the $75K is likely only an advance against earned royalties -- which could be substantial if the book is completed, done competently and sells well.

31 posted on 06/24/2005 8:12:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: summer
I respectfully disagree about Woodward and Felt. I don't think it's a valid journalistic question at all.
Let's take another example. Stephen Ambrose wrote D-DAY largely based on interviews with veterans--none of whom saw a nickel but all of whom got a book. That was all Ambrose promised.
The standard that the "Killing Fields" guy is suggesting is, in my opinion, ridiculous. If applied universally (and why apply it selectively?), it would destroy nonfiction publishing because every subject would expect to share in the proceeds. This violates the First Rule and would make the subject untrustworthy.

The Willbanks deal is a whole other story. If she profits from a book, my eyebrows go up because I suspect her of committing a hoax. There are no "Son of Sam" laws in Georgia (and they've been found unconstitutional in other states anyway) but I would hope she'd be prosecuted for committing fraud.
32 posted on 06/24/2005 8:23:55 PM PDT by RedRover (Yeah, buddy.)
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To: durasell

You mean without Woodward and Bernstein there would be no Geraldo Rivera, Barbara Walters, or Katie Couric?
Those Watergate guys have A LOT to answer for!


33 posted on 06/24/2005 8:26:12 PM PDT by RedRover (Yeah, buddy.)
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To: Petronski
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34 posted on 06/24/2005 8:41:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: summer
The "runaway bride" is reported to have received a $500k book/tv movie deal. What that means is not clear - because journalists do not seem to have the curiosity to learn and report more about he nature of the deal. I find it hard to believe that a $500k  non-refundable advance was made for her story - so much of which is already in the public domain. I suspect that there was some modest cash up front and a royalty deal that would allow her to earn $500k, depending on sales volume in a certain period, with different royalty rates for hard and soft cover.

I would be willing to bet this never makes it to print.

35 posted on 06/24/2005 9:05:40 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: summer
The "runaway bride" is reported to have received a $500k book/tv movie deal. What that means is not clear - because journalists do not seem to have the curiosity to learn and report more about he nature of the deal. I find it hard to believe that a $500k  non-refundable advance was made for her story - so much of which is already in the public domain. I suspect that there was some modest cash up front and a royalty deal that would allow her to earn $500k, depending on sales volume in a certain period, with different royalty rates for hard and soft cover.

I would be willing to bet this never makes it to print.

36 posted on 06/24/2005 9:06:41 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: RedRover

Geraldo Rivera, Barbara Walters, or Katie Couric are not journalists. They're entertainers.


37 posted on 06/24/2005 9:06:53 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: summer
Ah the hell with it!

Hi sweetie! ................Barry/gonzo

38 posted on 06/24/2005 10:18:48 PM PDT by gonzo (My eyes always water-up when I'm having sex. Must be that damned pepper-spray those broads use...)
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To: summer
If Felt's family think they will ever see a dime from Woodward, they are on drugs.

No way will he give them any money.

Regards,

39 posted on 06/25/2005 5:53:15 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: gonzo

LOL...Hi gonzo. :)


40 posted on 06/25/2005 8:16:48 AM PDT by summer
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I think you're right.


41 posted on 06/25/2005 8:17:10 AM PDT by summer
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I don't know if you're correct, as this article says she did get the reported "$500,000": Meme Details Bride's TV Deal
42 posted on 06/25/2005 8:21:37 AM PDT by summer
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I don't know if you're correct, as this article says she did get the reported "$500,000": Memo Details Bride's TV Deal
43 posted on 06/25/2005 8:21:56 AM PDT by summer
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To: RedRover
I think you are making some valid points. I like what you said here:

If applied universally (and why apply it selectively?), it would destroy nonfiction publishing because every subject would expect to share in the proceeds. This violates the First Rule and would make the subject untrustworthy.

I hadn't previously given much thought to that point. But I disagree with this concept here:

There are no "Son of Sam" laws in Georgia (and they've been found unconstitutional in other states anyway) but I would hope she'd be prosecuted for committing fraud.

Why should murderers profit from their wrongdoing? To allow those people to profit seems to almost create an incentive to go out and murder.

I think that's why I dislike the whole Runaway Bride deal so much. It's as if the media is encouraging people to do stupid things just so the media and those people can make a buck. I, for one, will never watch that Runaway Bride movie nor buy her book. Just my small protest against this sort of behavior by both the media and by people doing stupid things. Maybe if there's no consumer enouragement this type of situation will happen less often.
44 posted on 06/25/2005 8:28:40 AM PDT by summer
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To: okie01
Felt is likely not up to the task and his memory is failing.

I read somewhere Felt's son had done interviews and taken notes years ago with Felt, and that's why there was something to sell. But if that's true, it seems to me a major publisher might have come forward.
45 posted on 06/25/2005 8:30:22 AM PDT by summer
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To: Dog Gone

Re your post #29 - Thanks for explaing that; I thought you originally meant that NOW (not back then) there were many other options for Felt.


46 posted on 06/25/2005 8:34:52 AM PDT by summer
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To: GOP_Proud

If there are no major new facts to come out, I suspect you're right - it will flop.


47 posted on 06/25/2005 8:35:36 AM PDT by summer
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To: johndpringle
He kept his promise. I do not think he owes Felt or his family anything other than common courtesy. It appears to me that he has been courteous to the family.

Hmm. I will have to think about this more. Thanks for your post.
48 posted on 06/25/2005 8:37:02 AM PDT by summer
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To: gusopol3
Neopolotano on Fox made the point that, if Felt accepts money from Woodward, it is the consummation of a bribe. He made the point that Felt, as a government official, engaged in an illegal act.

Another post on this thread mentioned the break-ins Felt had approved, and I think you're both right - the legality or illegality of the subject act is material in these potential deals.
49 posted on 06/25/2005 8:40:20 AM PDT by summer
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To: what's up
It already makes me nauseous to see Woodward get rich off this garbage.

I had the same thought about Jayson Blair when he wrote his book and began his book tour -- but then I heard the crowds were basically non-existent at his book signings, so his book tour had to be cancelled. I was glad to hear that.
50 posted on 06/25/2005 8:42:26 AM PDT by summer
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