New York May Give Drunken Drivers Special License Plates

Local6 ^ | 6/17/05 | Local6

[Peace will be here soon]

I think you responded to the wrong person.

[Feiny]

There is nothing wrong with driving drunk as long as you don't hurt anyone. Repeat offenders are obviously just experienced drunk drivers.

[endthematrix]

No, you commented on a "never ending , intermittent sobriety check" and posted a comment from the article. A police officer stops you having probable cause...

[thoughtomator]

After three convictions in five years for drunk driving, a person shouldn't be permitted to drive at all.

[null and void]

I disagree. OTOH, they should have their airbags disabled, and their seatbelts removed.

[Peace will be here soon]

I never said I support this silly license plate. Where did you get that I supported this?

As for the sobriety check.. You mean to tell me everytime I get directed into a sobriety checkpoint set up by the police that I don`t have to go through it??? That is just like pulling me over, isn`t it. Probable cause you say?? Yeah, right.


I would still like to know why you thought I supported this. Am am still confused on that part.

[Slings and Arrows]

I found an image of the proposed plates:

[de Buillion]

"I thought people were presumed innocent till proven guilty? "

This qualifies as one of the most outrageously ignorant statements ever posted on FR. The original thread post specified Three DWI CONVICTIONS in five years- How the hell can that be "presumed innocent"? You have a serious problem. How many DWI's have you chalked up?

[endthematrix]

Calm down. I never assumed you supported it. I just commented to you because you referenced a constitution debate. My post had a ? after the sentence. Hoping that others might offer facts and opinions to what this special license plate does to probable cause. As for "safety" and sobriety checkpoints/road blocks. IMO it's unconstitutional but courts upheld it. Police must notify the public as to where checks will take place.

[kingu]

Let me see if I understand this right - you get convicted of driving under the influence and for the rest of your life if you're driving a car, any cop can pull you over without any reason other than the fact you're driving a car with a 'drunk driver' license plate?

Right. Three seconds after this is written, it will be overturned, but tens of millions will get spent making these plates and trying to defend it while at the same time the state legislature will complain there isn't enough money to go around.

[hineybona]

I agree , what the hell are they doing with ANY license to begin with ..
GEEEZZZ where is the logic and common sense of Abe Lincoln in politics these days?

[hineybona]

3 DWIs in 5 years you have no business ever driving again .

[endthematrix]

A badly worded post, but I interpreted it as why offer a stigma after conviction. It wasn't seen as part of the sentence, but after sentencing and fines, etc.

[endthematrix]

Pink plates have been proposed for sex offenders in OH, which BTW already has DUI plates.

"Sgt. Robin Schmutz of the Ohio Highway Patrol says, "We still have to have a primary violation. We wouldn't just stop somebody with the DUI plate. But citizens might look a little harder at that vehicle."

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/10/12/loc_pulfer12.html

[endthematrix]

Also quoted from the article:

"These "DUI plates" have been a judicial option since 1967"

[kingu]

One DWI at a reasonable BAC would be enough to ban you from driving in my book.

[kingu]

"These "DUI plates" have been a judicial option since 1967"

And a DUI plate being the sole cause for pulling someone over has been an option since...? They tried that with the senior stickers a while back, where if an officer saw a car marked with a particular sticker between 1am and 5am, he would have cause to pull it over. The courts determined that a car owner can't wave someone else's rights, even those of a thief in the process of stealing a car.

[Peace will be here soon]

"Hoping that others might offer facts and opinions to what this special license plate does to probable cause."

If the people in black robes say its okay, it seem to be that it is okay. ( Not that I always agree with the people in the black robes by the way ).

And I am calm, by the way. : )

[Porterville]

I think there should be special lice sense plate for everyone who isn't a powerful fat ass politico.

[endthematrix]

The DUI plate has aparently been rejected in CO and AZ. Just found this off a blog:

"What have become known as "scarlet letter plates" or "shame plates" have created other consequences as well:

Ever since I've put the yellow plates on my car I have gotten pulled over on the way to work/school at least a dozen times just for "suspicion", and my car has been damaged by rocks and bricks that have been thrown at my car. I've filed police reports for the incidents in which my car was damaged and nothing has been done to resolve the problem. My insurance pays for the damage but I still have a $500 deductible which I've had to pay for twice now. I'm tired of people that say I "deserve" it because I have a DUI. I didn't kill anyone, I didn't hurt anyone, no cars were hit and nothing was damaged. I don't deserve to be pulled over today for something that happened months ago. I don't deserve to have rocks and bricks thrown at my car. I don't deserve to be publicly humiliated...

The new law initially applied to all individuals convicted of DUI. However, the inclusion of first-time offenders caused widespread criticism and the law was later amended to apply only to multiple offenders and first offenders with blood alcohol levels of .17% or higher.

Ohio isn’t the only state requiring "shame" plates for those convicted of DUI. Minnesota and Georgia also issue the plates, but ones not as dramatically different as those issued by Ohio. Urged on by MADD, California, Virginia and other states have considered legislation authorizing them -- including Arizona, where a bill requiring fluorescent green plates made it to the floor of the State Senate in 2004."

AZ may still be deciding?