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A common-sense opinion on DDT (believe it or not)
Washington Post ^ | 06/05/2005 | May Berenbaum

Posted on 06/06/2005 11:49:19 AM PDT by cogitator

"Banned in the United States more than 30 years ago, it remains America's best known toxic substance. Like some sort of rap star, it's known just by its initials; it's the Notorious B.I.G. of pesticides.

Now DDT is making headlines again. Many African governments are calling for access to the pesticide, believing that it's their best hope against malaria, a disease that infects more than 300 million people worldwide a year and kills at least 3 million, a large proportion of them children." . . .

"What people aren't remembering about the history of DDT is that, in many places, it failed to eradicate malaria not because of environmentalist restrictions on its use but because it simply stopped working." . . .

"The truth is that DDT is neither superhero nor supervillain -- it's just a tool. And if entomologists have learned anything in the last half-century of dealing with the million-plus species of insects in the world, it's that there is no such thing as an all-purpose weapon when it comes to pest management."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; crichton; ddt; disease; environment; malaria; mosquitoes; persistence
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Please read the entire article before commenting, especially the next-to-last paragraph.
1 posted on 06/06/2005 11:49:20 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

Nature has a way of making a level playing field over time.


2 posted on 06/06/2005 11:58:23 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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, the environmental persistence of DDT was creating major problems for wildlife, as famously documented in Rachel Carson's classic 1962 book, "Silent Spring."

She documented NOTHING....that's the point. The book was a farce.

3 posted on 06/06/2005 12:03:26 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (.)
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To: cogitator

I did read the whole article. AS with many published works, it contains some good info - but also some misleading information as well. The idea of immunity/resistance to chemicals - particularly DDT is not a new problem and it applies to ALL pesticides that have been invented.

The REAL answer - hinted about in the article - is to include DDT in the "toolbox" used.

The article also doesn't make any effort to tell of the myths associated with DDT in relation to the supposed environmental damage. The supposed evidence against DDT was completely fabricated.

There are ZERO compelling reasons to ban the use of DDT in Africa, or even in the plains of the US.

The effective use of pesticides includes rotating the product used and PROPER application (concentration/method). The rules of effective use are the same worldwide.


4 posted on 06/06/2005 12:06:06 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: cogitator

Good article and good points.


5 posted on 06/06/2005 12:06:23 PM PDT by Gardener
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To: cogitator
What a painfully verbose apologist for "contolling others simply because we can".

In the first place,

What people aren't remembering about the history of DDT is that, in many places, it failed to eradicate malaria not because of environmentalist restrictions on its use but because it simply stopped working.

Complete rubbish!
If in fact, it is ineffective, it is reasonable to expect that going back to its use and finding it useless, people will stop using it. This obvious "D'OH! reality does not disuade the watermelons, who keep insisting that Rachel Carson (the main reason for the ban), was not only junk science; it was fraudulent.

It's like the lactose intolerant insisting on banning milk, because, of course, the world revolves around her!
Give me a break!

6 posted on 06/06/2005 12:07:16 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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If in fact, it is ineffective, it is reasonable to expect that going back to its use and finding it useless, people will stop using it.

However, they may continue to use it for awhile in the mistaken belief that it is still effective (when it isn't), and using it when it is ineffective makes it worse than useless. I.e., using it when it is ineffective increases the development of resistance in target populations.

7 posted on 06/06/2005 12:13:57 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: 1Old Pro
The author of the piece linked below is the environmental correspondent for Reason magazine and is not an enviro mouthpiece.

DDT, eggshells, and me

"Rachel Carson cited early anecdotal reports of various birds either dying of acute DDT poisoning (usually by eating poisoned insects) or experiencing reproductive problems, thus giving her her title conceit. No birds singing, a silent spring, get it? Her book was a popular phenomenon, and not surprisingly her claims drew the attention of a lot of researchers."

This is in contrast to your calling the book a "farce". It was not a scientific publication, hence the use of "documented" in the original op-ed is inaccurate. However, Carson wasn't making things up, either.

DDT AND ITS DERIVATIVES - ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS

The link above is cited in his article, but I can't get it to fully load. Good luck.

8 posted on 06/06/2005 12:30:53 PM PDT by cogitator
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I'm not convinced. The studies were very limited and never reproduced. Causal effects were shady. I don't buy it.


9 posted on 06/06/2005 12:38:42 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (.)
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I don't buy it.

That's fine -- I wasn't selling Carson sainthood shares, anyway. The main point of the post was to provide some clear information about the pros and cons of DDT usage via the article. DDT can and should be used, and proper usage can maximize its effectiveness with little environmental impact. Improper and/or haphazard usage is inadvisable.

10 posted on 06/06/2005 1:17:21 PM PDT by cogitator
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The article tries hard to be "balanced". But in doing so it completely ignored the facts that millions of people have died because countries in Africa were arm twisted into banning DDT.

The claim that "DDT stopped working" is BS as well. Within the last few years a new program to use DDT in a limited way in southern Africa resulted in a massive reduction in malaria deaths. I forget the details, but when the country was again arm twisted into stopping the program, malaria deaths increased dramatically.

The current method of limited DDT use doesn't even involve spraying it in the environment. It's merely painted on the windows of houses, which causes mosquitoes to avoid them. Mosquitoes are "immune" to DDT, because they've evolved a strong ability to avoid it. Since most mosquitoes bite at night, when people are at home asleep, painting it in windows is very effective at reducing malaria.

But the worshipers of Rachel Carson still will not allow such a blasphemy. It makes you think they like dead people.

The comparison with Hitler is apt. Since Hitler's final solution, never have so few "well meaning" people killed so many, because of such willful blindness.

11 posted on 06/06/2005 1:24:45 PM PDT by narby (Ignorance is God’s gift to Kansas.)
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The fact remains. When third world countries stopped using DDT, Malaria deaths skyrocketed from almost nothing to millions per year. Rachel Carlson is a mass murderer and May Berenbaum and her fellow apologists are her enablers.
12 posted on 06/06/2005 1:55:06 PM PDT by monday
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West Nile Virus- Bring Back DDT?


100 things you should know about DDT

13 posted on 06/06/2005 2:10:28 PM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)™...)
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To: narby
The article tries hard to be "balanced". But in doing so it completely ignored the facts that millions of people have died because countries in Africa were arm twisted into banning DDT.

DDT use is not banned in Africa, nor in any Third World countries that need it. Aid agencies did pressure some countries to stop using it. That was stupid. (I'm not arguing that it wasn't stupid.)

Malaria Foundation International / DDT page

The claim that "DDT stopped working" is BS as well. Within the last few years a new program to use DDT in a limited way in southern Africa resulted in a massive reduction in malaria deaths. I forget the details, but when the country was again arm twisted into stopping the program, malaria deaths increased dramatically.

It *did* and *does* stop working, especially if it is used in a widespread manner (outdoor spraying). When the use of it was stopped, over time the genes for resistance in mosquito population slowly disappeared, so it could start working again. Re-read what the article says about DDT-resistant populations.

You are perhaps thinking of this situation:

"South Africa illustrates these limitations in practice. Facing pressure from environmentalists, the national malaria control programme abandoned DDT in favour of more expensive pyrethroid insecticides in 1996. Within three years, pyrethroid resistant A funestus mosquitoes invaded KwaZulu-Natal province, where they had not been seen since DDT spraying began in the 1940s. Malaria cases then promptly soared, from just 4117 cases in 1995 to 27 238 cases in 1999 (or possibly 120 000 cases, judging by pharmacy records). Other provinces experienced similar catastrophes, and South Africa was forced to return to DDT spraying this year. It had little alternative: no other insecticide, at any price, was known to be equally effective."

Note that the use of it was never banned, though a ban was discussed in international negotiations. Shortsighted environmentalists did cause some countries to stop using it.

How good intentions kill

"DDT is now back in use in KwaZulu Natal and according to Jotham Mthembu, head of the malaria control programme at Jozini in KZN, conditions have improved. Gerhard Verdoorn of the Endangered Wildlife Trust, the South African green group, has given his approval to the use of DDT and even trained sprayers. "DDT is used in tiny quantities and there is simply no prospect of any environmental damage arising from its use," he says."

The current method of limited DDT use doesn't even involve spraying it in the environment. It's merely painted on the windows of houses, which causes mosquitoes to avoid them. Mosquitoes are "immune" to DDT, because they've evolved a strong ability to avoid it. Since most mosquitoes bite at night, when people are at home asleep, painting it in windows is very effective at reducing malaria.

This is completely true (the quote I provided underscores this). They also spray it on furniture and bedding indoors.

14 posted on 06/06/2005 2:28:02 PM PDT by cogitator
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However, they may continue to use it for awhile in the mistaken belief that it is still effective (when it isn't), and using it when it is ineffective makes it worse than useless. I.e., using it when it is ineffective increases the development of resistance in target populations.

That is sophistry, pure and simple, and defies common sense.
If DDT is effective, the results and either immediate or evidebt in the short term.
If it promotes further resistance, as in selective survival of the fittest, it is long term. if there is a relationship between the two it is a manufactured one.

15 posted on 06/06/2005 2:31:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: monday
When third world countries stopped using DDT, Malaria deaths skyrocketed from almost nothing to millions per year.

Unfortunately, malarial deaths have never been "almost nothing". In some African areas where malaria had been reduced, abandonment of DDT did lead to a markedly increased rate of malarial cases, but not millions of deaths.

Rachel Carlson is a mass murderer and May Berenbaum and her fellow apologists are her enablers.

I really don't think you read the article very closely. Berenbaum wasn't an apologist for Carson. This is the second-to-last paragraph to which I referred. Read it for comprehension:

"But environmentalists are right to worry that the unwise use of DDT, particularly where it is likely to be ineffective, may cause environmental harm without any benefit. In 2000, I chaired a National Research Council committee that published a study titled "The Future Role of Pesticides in U.S. Agriculture." Our principal recommendation is germane to discussions of malaria management: "There is no justification for completely abandoning chemicals per se as components in the defensive toolbox used for managing pests. The committee recommends maintaining a diversity of tools for maximizing flexibility, precision, and stability of pest management."

16 posted on 06/06/2005 2:37:02 PM PDT by cogitator
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Just keep in mind that hundreds of thousands are dead from malaria because of environmentalist do-gooders who prevented DDT from being used as much as it should have been.


17 posted on 06/06/2005 2:40:04 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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If DDT is effective, the results and either immediate or evident in the short term.

That is true.

If it promotes further resistance, as in selective survival of the fittest, it is long term. if there is a relationship between the two it is a manufactured one.

I'm not sure of your point, but the article says:

"In the continued presence of the insecticide, susceptible populations can be rapidly replaced by resistant ones. Though widespread use of DDT didn't begin until WWII, there were resistant houseflies in Europe by 1947, and by 1949, DDT-resistant mosquitoes were documented on two continents. ... By 1972, when the U.S. DDT ban went into effect, 19 species of mosquitoes capable of transmitting malaria, including some in Africa, were resistant to DDT."

18 posted on 06/06/2005 2:40:52 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: thoughtomator
Just keep in mind that hundreds of thousands are dead from malaria because of environmentalist do-gooders who prevented DDT from being used as much as it should have been.

That's one of the primary reasons I posted this article!

19 posted on 06/06/2005 2:42:22 PM PDT by cogitator
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"Read it for comprehension:"

I did read it. It is a lie.


20 posted on 06/06/2005 2:59:14 PM PDT by monday
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