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THE REDNECK PROBLEM
nypost.com ^ | May 17, 2005 | WILLIAM RASPBERRY

Posted on 05/17/2005 10:26:50 AM PDT by Destro

THE REDNECK PROBLEM

By WILLIAM RASPBERRY

May 17, 2005 -- THE plight of have-not blacks in America's urban ghettos, says economist Thomas Sowell, can be laid at the feet of white people. And not just any white folks. The culprits are that particular breed of white people known as "rednecks."

If you've followed the writings of Sowell for as long as I have, you'll know that he's not saying anything as simple as racism accounts for today's black poverty. He's saying something much more complex and, to my mind, far more intriguing.

Immigration from the British Isles to the New World was not so random as many of us imagine. Most of the settlers of Massachusetts, for instance, came from near Haverhill in East Anglia. Virginia aristocrats came from the south and west of England.

And the Deep South was populated largely by immigrants from the northern borderlands, Ulster and the Scottish Highlands — from "among people who were called 'rednecks' and 'crackers' in Britain before they ever saw America." And these are the people who formed the culture — the speech patterns, preaching styles, social behaviors, propensity for violence and attitudes toward schooling — that became the culture of Southern blacks, Sowell claims in his new book, "Black Rednecks and White Liberals."

And it is this cultural heritage, he argues, "more so than survivals of African cultures," that has produced the urban black culture of today.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackrednecks; blacks; bookreview; cary; dixie; raspberry; south; sowell; thomassowell; whiteliberals
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Stop and think about what 5 or 6 traits you would say define rednecks. Now think about how many of those traits are also exhibited by young urban blacks.

Rednecks
Drive pickup trucks
Drink beer
Chew tobacco
Shoot bolt action rifles off of their porch
Own a really fat black lab

Young urban blacks
Drive bass speakers on wheels
Drink gin
Smoke crack
Shoot uzi's from a moving vehicle
Own a scarred-up pit bull

I don't see the similarity. ;-)

141 posted on 05/17/2005 11:24:23 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Mamzelle

Though in Virginia there were laws which prevented free blacks from owning property, there were free blacks who started corporations. The corporations had no color, and were permitted to buy and control property. The corporations also purchased slaves (usually the relatives of the stock holders) essentially giving them their freedom, with the opportunity to work off their debt to the corporation.

Slavery was dieing. It depended on keeping the slaves ignorant, which meant keeping the agriculture methods simple, ruining the land over time. Cotton was being grown in India and Egypt, limiting the price advantage of large slave worked plantations.

Slavery had a boom due to the Whitney cotton gin, the first fruits of the industrial revolution. As the industrial revolution progressed, skills of eye and hand meant more and more, so slavery, depending on force and ignorance, was doomed. In the old south, having a real job was a mark of degradation. The southern aristocracy refused to accept the failure of their system. The real tragedy was the poor whites whose coerced militia service supported the oppression of the black and the safety of the rich, and whose deaths in the Civil War served only the institution that kept them poor.


142 posted on 05/17/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by Donald Meaker
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To: KDD

"the term 'southern cracker' was used in the south to describe the southern cowboys who used whips to herd cattle."

I'd always associated it with plantation overseers, myself, as in "cracking the whip."


143 posted on 05/17/2005 11:25:27 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The American blacks which are descendants of slaves owe their lives to the slave trade.

If there hadn't of been a slave trade, the captive men from African tribal wars would have just been slaughtered instead of sold.
144 posted on 05/17/2005 11:25:38 AM PDT by Nyboe
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To: Destro; Bluegrass Conservative
Can you imagine him at the Costco or Sam's Club with a shopping cart full of little snacks for his vending machines? LOL

A while back on Law and Order SVU he was arguing with Richard Belzer (Munch) and Munch yelled at him, "Is there anything else you are going to surprise me with today?" and Fin (Ice-T) said, "Yeah, I'm a Republican." It was hysterical, especially since Belzer is as big a lib as we Freepers are conservatives.
145 posted on 05/17/2005 11:25:50 AM PDT by retrokitten ("I've seen you break up entire bridal and baby showers with one catty remark!"- Peggy Hill)
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To: Destro
The memorial to America's first black president


146 posted on 05/17/2005 11:26:37 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: brooklyn dave; GovernmentShrinker
I really wonder what contact on a day to day basis black slaves had with the vast majority of poor whites?

You can tell by the Irish and Scottish surnames Blacks have that the contact period was long and intimate.

147 posted on 05/17/2005 11:26:49 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: JAWs

Many of the Sephardics left Spain because of the Inquisition began by Ferdinand and Isabella. Dispossesed in Spain, they went to the Mideast, many to Syria, to be dispossesed again after 1948 because of the creation of Israel.


148 posted on 05/17/2005 11:27:02 AM PDT by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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To: Calm_Cool_and_Elected

ping for later read


149 posted on 05/17/2005 11:27:17 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (Be nice, I'm new here)
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To: Mamzelle
re: Delia's Gone I generally think of Burl Ives when I think of that song.

I didn't know Burl Ives ever sang Delia's Gone. Johnny Cash wrote it, didn't he?

150 posted on 05/17/2005 11:29:03 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Destro
You can tell by the Irish and Scottish surnames Blacks have that the contact period was long and intimate.

I assume you're being sarcastic. Most blacks have ANGLO names; not Scottish or Irish. The Scotch-Irish (aka Ulster Scots) largely lived in the mountainy areas where the slave economy couldn't function; many of them probably rarely or never even saw a slave.

151 posted on 05/17/2005 11:29:51 AM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: Donald Meaker
I don't find much to disagree with there--but, the fact remains, it wasn't only the white aristos who owned slaves. Cherokees owned slaves. Jews owned slaves. Gens libre du coleur --free blacks--owned slaves.

And these gens libre du coleur were often very important citizens- in the larger cities of the south--New Orleans had the largest, and the most interesting. Both Frank Yerby and Anne Rice sold quite a few books writing about them.

152 posted on 05/17/2005 11:29:59 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Celts are not Anglo-Saxon.


153 posted on 05/17/2005 11:30:41 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: Donald Meaker

" The real tragedy was the poor whites whose coerced militia service supported the oppression of the black and the safety of the rich, and whose deaths in the Civil War served only the institution that kept them poor."

What a load of DU pavlovian trigger phrases this is... coerced? You have no idea what you're talking about.


154 posted on 05/17/2005 11:31:08 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Adder
"It ignores that large numbers of blacks lived in places like Philadelphia, Baltimore and New York, away from the Scotch-Irish."

Not all blacks behave like rednecks. Sowell is a prime example. There are lots of very respectable blacks who quietly go about their business and are very successful.
155 posted on 05/17/2005 11:32:02 AM PDT by monday
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To: retrokitten
A while back on Law and Order SVU he was arguing with Richard Belzer (Munch) and Munch yelled at him, "Is there anything else you are going to surprise me with today?" and Fin (Ice-T) said, "Yeah, I'm a Republican." It was hysterical, especially since Belzer is as big a lib as we Freepers are conservatives.

You know what, I wouldn't be shocked if Ice-T wasn't a Republican in reality too. Also happens to be my favorite character on SVU.

156 posted on 05/17/2005 11:33:14 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Adder

You must remember the Northern population of Blacks was smaller than the Southern population. Also the North was more hostile to Blacks than the South was in many ways. After the NYC Draft Riots, New York was almost free of Blacks until Southern Blacks migrated north in the early 1900s.


157 posted on 05/17/2005 11:33:20 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: wideawake

Your post #15.............BINGO!!!


158 posted on 05/17/2005 11:33:22 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative; LauraleeBraswell

If Redneck culture really is Scottish, they aren't Anglo-Saxon but Celts. "WASP" isn't a term in much use anymore, its popularity having peaked decades ago.


159 posted on 05/17/2005 11:33:34 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: frithguild

"Many of the Sephardics left Spain because of the Inquisition began by Ferdinand and Isabella. Dispossesed in Spain, they went to the Mideast, many to Syria"

Not entirely true. Some fled to Alsace and converted to Protestantism. I know because this was the experience of one of my (distant) ancestors.


160 posted on 05/17/2005 11:33:44 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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