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[Abortion] Pill bill stirs controversy
Napa News ^ | May 11 2005

Posted on 05/11/2005 11:52:53 AM PDT by george wythe

Pharmacists who "just say no" when asked to fill prescriptions that violate their personal ethics are targeted by proposed state legislation that would mandate all prescriptions be filled.

Some local druggists are not happy about the bill, authored by Sen. Deborah Ortiz, D-Sacramento, which would be the first in the nation to require filling emergency contraception prescriptions, even if the pharmacist feels it violates his or her personal morals.

The owner of Napa's Family Drug on Old Sonoma Road, Thomas Gracia, has mixed feelings.

"I think people should be able to get the prescriptions that they need," he said. "However, as a pharmacist and a professional, I do think that (I) should have the ability to not fill a prescription."

(Excerpt) Read more at napanews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: conscienceclause; deborahortiz; freedomofconscience; pharmacist; pharmacy; serpents; servants; servents
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If a California pharmacist has religious scruples about filling out an abortion pill prescription, he might get fired.

I guess the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals will rule that the government has a compelling interest in stripping people of their First Amendment rights. For rabid liberals, just one abortion delayed is one too many:

"Even one refusal is one too many," said Kathy Kneer, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood in California

1 posted on 05/11/2005 11:52:54 AM PDT by george wythe
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The pharmacies should just not carry the pill. You can't by law force a grocer to sell you salami if he doesn't carry it, and you can't force a Chrysler dealer to sell you a Ford product, so just eliminate the product from your inventory.

Unless I am overlooking something specific when it comes to medicines.


2 posted on 05/11/2005 11:55:59 AM PDT by AbeKrieger
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To: george wythe

There is no stipulation in any license granted that makes it mandatory for you to do something which you believe to be immoral.


3 posted on 05/11/2005 11:56:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: george wythe

Your parenthetical addition to the headline is incorrect.

You're about the 50 billionth person to confuse the "abortion" pill (RU-486) with the "morning after" pills (which are actually just birth control pills.)


5 posted on 05/11/2005 11:59:44 AM PDT by Strategerist
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There are two issues at stake here, and I'm not sure how the proposed law addresses them.

In Case #1, a pharmacist working for someone else refuses to fill a prescription on the grounds that he/she finds the medication "morally objectionable." If this law is aimed at preventing this type of action, then the basic premise of the law is ludicrous. An employer should have the right to hire or fire an employee for any reason whatsoever.

In Case #2, a pharmacist who owns his or her own business refuses to fill a prescription on the grounds that he/she finds the medication "morally objectionable." If this law is aimed at preventing this type of action, then the law has no place in a free society -- for the state has no right to mandate business practices in private enterprise this way.

6 posted on 05/11/2005 12:00:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Tod Rechts
What if the pharmacist decides he doesn't want an AIDS patient to have his meds anymore?

Go somewhere else.

There are so many pharmacies in the US, that some other pharmacy will gladly take your business.

7 posted on 05/11/2005 12:01:02 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Hey, Mzzzzzz Kneer:

Forcing one person to assist in what they believe is murder is ONE TOO MANY.
8 posted on 05/11/2005 12:01:11 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Tod Rechts

Yes, and all doctors must perform abortions up until natural birth.

It's a free market. It's not like there are not pharmacies on every corner. The customer can go elsewhere.

Of course, as posted elsewhere, the solution is simply to not stock the drug. When asked simply say, "Oh, I am sorry we don't have X. We can order it for you on Monday. It would be in, in about 3-4 weeks, but that might be too late to do you any good."


9 posted on 05/11/2005 12:01:59 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: george wythe

Not everyone carries Oxycontin.


10 posted on 05/11/2005 12:03:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: AbeKrieger
You can't by law force a grocer to sell you salami if he doesn't carry it,

Please don't give Deborah Ortiz (D) any more bright ideas for legislation.

11 posted on 05/11/2005 12:04:22 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: Tod Rechts

If you own your own business, you are the boss.


12 posted on 05/11/2005 12:04:48 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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You're about the 50 billionth person to confuse the "abortion" pill (RU-486) with the "morning after" pills (which are actually just birth control pills.)

As a Roman Catholic, I don't make a distinction. Both are abortion pills.

Furthermore, the law applies to all prescriptions:

The proposed law was penned, she said, because of concern over women being turned away when seeking emergency contraceptives.

It does not, however, mention contraceptives by name. "It apples to all lawful prescriptions," she said.


13 posted on 05/11/2005 12:05:02 PM PDT by george wythe
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This is only about the rite of the democrat constituency to serial killing methodology and forcing everyone else to abide by their secular religious values. Pharmacists may refuse other scripts but not any that relate to the secular religious rite of abortion in ANY FORM. The leftists societal engineers keep screeching about Christian jihad?... They have no idea what they will bring upon themselves if they continue to spit in God's face and continue trying to force Christians to give up and shut up and deny God's laws written in their hearts. We are called to be peacemakers and Evangelists, but we are not instructed to be doormats for Evil's demands.
14 posted on 05/11/2005 12:06:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: george wythe

When are Pharmacists medical personel? They are NOT doctors and can refuse to despense any kind of medication to anyone. They may not be working at the same store again tho...


15 posted on 05/11/2005 12:07:43 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: george wythe
Doctors often give out free samples.

Simply have the same doctor who would have written the prescription,
give "free samples" to the patient, instead.

16 posted on 05/11/2005 12:10:31 PM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: Strategerist
You're about the fifty billionth person to characterize RU 486 as 'a pill' ... it is a regimen of more than one drug/pills ... and BTW, the 'morning after pill is designed as the earliest form of abortifacient, if conception of a new embryo-aged life has occurred. But that was a nice try!
17 posted on 05/11/2005 12:10:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Tod Rechts

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How far do we let this go? "

As far as the evangelicals will go to shove their morality down our throats, apparently.

"If you're a pharmacist, your a pharmacist--not a pastor."

Agreed.


18 posted on 05/11/2005 12:12:23 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: george wythe

Every abortion is a good abortion, according to the ghouls on the left...


20 posted on 05/11/2005 12:15:42 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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