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Federal incentives exist to make children Fatherless
townhall.com ^ | May 9th 2005 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 05/10/2005 5:48:07 AM PDT by Orlando

Why has Congress appropriated taxpayer money to give perverse incentives that break up families and deprive children of their fathers ? The built-in financial incentives in the current child-support system have expanded the tragedy of fatherless children from the welfare class to MILLIONS of non-welfare divorced couples..... more


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: afdc; childrens; families; family; fathers; fathersrights; govwatch; phyllisschlafly; welfare
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The death toll of fathers is great, and out of control... This reward system must be stop, and it's time to bring back the fathers...
1 posted on 05/10/2005 5:48:08 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: Orlando
Home truth #1 -- 3/4 of the black babies born in this country are born out of wedlock. That statistic shows the state of the black family. Time to stop blaming whitey and look in the mirror.
Hispanics are at 33% and white families are at 25%. Chinese families are at 3%. Gee, what a shock.

Last night the news came out with a "statistic." Who knows if it's true or not. Because of all the abortions by low-income women, crime rates have gone down. They DID mention longer prison sentences, 3-strikes and tougher judges, but THAT little gem was also considered a factor in lowering crime.

2 posted on 05/10/2005 6:04:55 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Orlando

The AFDC started in 1966, and in order for the women/mother to collect AFDC $$, Free Food $$, Free housing, Free Medical, and Free other stuff,etc...

Rule number #1 was :
A)... NO Father in home
B)... No Father in picture
C)... NO Father rasing their childrens

If a Father was found by the State, the AFDC benefits $$$ was taken away, and the system rewarded the mother more $$$
if she had more childrens.

Prior to 1966, The Black family unit was more united and there faith in GOD was stronger, and I know many were poor but there was family. The crime level was lower than today in the inner-cities. Today, in some cities (Milwaukee, NYC,etc..) over 70%+ of the Black Fathers are missing,jailed,dead, and destroyed to the point of no return, and as a result.

We have crime out of control,etc....

Here's more data:

http://www.fathersforlife.org/famlaw/usbankruptcy.htm

This system of the Beast was started by the democrats party,and it's time the minority people who cares for the fathers/men/boys and families wake-up and smell the coffee.

This system's was pay-back for Martin Luther King Jr civil rights victories prior to 1966....

It destroyed the family, and it is costing YOU the taxpayer Billions and Billions of $$$ as a result....

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com

vet out


3 posted on 05/10/2005 6:09:51 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: starfish923

Your right !
Putting a entire race of males in prison is not the solution to the problem's.
It still cost taxpayers Billions ++ of $$$ to house inmates.
It's no wonder that the Muslim religion is becoming the number one religion in the jail systems and thousands of new Isamists are being borned each day in the jails and inner-cities of the U.S.A.

A country that destroys the fathers and drugs the Boys to death can-not survive as a nation. Sooner or later the balance of order will be no more...


4 posted on 05/10/2005 6:32:43 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: starfish923
white families are at 25%. Chinese families are at 3%.

So much for the liberal assumption that whites have everything the best.

I don't know if you'll get a kick out of this, but back in college (and a few times at grad school) whenever the "gaps" came between minorities and whites, I used to ask what are they going to do about the gaps between whites and asians (i.e. tests, etc).

Racism veered its ugly head then, in some sick ways.

5 posted on 05/10/2005 12:16:08 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
So much for the liberal assumption that whites have everything the best. I don't know if you'll get a kick out of this, but back in college (and a few times at grad school) whenever the "gaps" came between minorities and whites, I used to ask what are they going to do about the gaps between whites and asians (i.e. tests, etc). Racism veered its ugly head then, in some sick ways.

Lol. It's funny.
What is NOT funny is that the Asians, especially the Chinese and Japanese, have REAPED the benefits of affirmative action. That is, MOST never needed it but ALL got it because of their race.
Reverse racism is STILL rearing its ugly head....now it has the law on its side.

And because it is part of the law, reverse racism, that is, it's even uglier and more pernicious, in my opinion, because the government and minorities KNOW BETTER, KNOW that it's reverse racism and KNOW THAT IT'S WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Minorities (not every single one, of course) still buy into it and defend it to the death because, at heart, they are JUST AS RACIST as they accuse whites of being.
Racism is a two-way street -- always has been; always will be.

6 posted on 05/10/2005 7:33:28 PM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: starfish923
What is NOT funny is that the Asians, especially the Chinese and Japanese, have REAPED the benefits of affirmative action. That is, MOST never needed it but ALL got it because of their race.

Not sure where, but in the SCOTUS case involving the university of Michagen, The school held asians to a higher standard then whites, and minorities to a lower standard. It was a point system, and you got more points for being white then asian, and awhole boat load of points for being black and variations of spanish (you got to look at it yourself to believe it).

That was the part that stuck out to me.

Also Berkley, without shame, admits to holding a higher standard for asians/pacific islander/orientals.

Hell, I still don't get how indians and chinese are somehow recognised the same.

Harvard and Yale, do also hold a higher standard for asians (but are to racist to bother seperating them). I know the one kid who got a perfect SAT score and got rejected by Harvard (okay, he wound up going to Yale, but you get the point).

It varies, but I'm not aware of any school or even job that gives preferances to asians for ethnic or national reasons, Michelle Malkin can be sourced on that.

7 posted on 05/10/2005 9:17:33 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
Asians are not held to a higher standard, as a rule. They get more points for their race than less points for academic achievement. Their presence on campsuses is highly valued because they tend to bring up the general gpa of the campus. You have pointed out some aberrations. Berkeley doesn't do that anymore.

There are dumb Asians -- and some go to college. But the pressure on them to succeed is so great that they will drop classes before receiving bad grades.

Imho, the entire system is screwed, er, I mean skewed to help everyone but straight, white Euro males. All that one has to do is look at what is offered in the way of grants, scholarships and other $$ means. Straight Euro males get the least help. Lol. Perhaps that's why so many succeed -- they have had to do the whole thing with no help or moral support. That does tend to build backbone.

8 posted on 05/11/2005 5:27:47 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: starfish923

This beast of a system is also destroying our military from within in so many ways. For example: Soldiers returning from combat zones had been arrested for un-pay child support, and crazy arrears. In these times divorce is high
and easy to do, and this is happening more and more to those serving oversea. The U.S. Gov't dosen't protect it's soldiers from these home atttacks, and the injustice of the so-call child support is so great , that it can destroy the soldiers for LIFE, and it's no wonder why many are just killing themselfs and/or others.....

Why, even join the service ? If the Terrorists don't kill you, the anti-male(Father) system's will.....I been talking to alot of veterans/soldiers(who ETS) who are fathers, or KNOW those that are/were fathers serving over-there, and I revealed that many, many FEAR the Anti-Male Family court system's and CHILD SUPPORT MORE than the Terrorists, and I am finding out that is also true for those at home....

WHO DO YOU FEAR MORE ??

The Beast of fathers....Is there number#1 concern.

Here's a new article that reports on Divorce and Child Support and how it is destroying the military from within.

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/u-v/usher/2005/usher051105.htm

Military recuiting is turning into a homefront disaster...

I done my homework, and collected many data, evidences to support my claims of death and destruction.....

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1269

The feminists that hate males are being trained in our schools(Women studies, Women Family Law schools,etc...)These are the same group of spirits that support the baby death factories,killing disable people, drugging boys, and destroying fathers,etc....

It's time we face the devil women and realize what they represent to mankind and GOD creations.....These demons are vampires who love death and hate GOD...

ps...Not all Fathers are bad people, there are more good than bad, but the good get more punish than the bad.....

vet out


9 posted on 05/11/2005 9:49:48 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: starfish923

This beast of a system is also destroying our military from within in so many ways. For example: Soldiers returning from combat zones had been arrested for un-pay child support, and crazy arrears. In these times divorce is high
and easy to do, and this is happening more and more to those serving oversea. The U.S. Gov't dosen't protect it's soldiers from these home atttacks, and the injustice of the so-call child support is so great , that it can destroy the soldiers for LIFE, and it's no wonder why many are just killing themselfs and/or others.....

Why, even join the service ? If the Terrorists don't kill you, the anti-male(Father) system's will.....I been talking to alot of veterans/soldiers(who ETS) who are fathers, or KNOW those that are/were fathers serving over-there, and I revealed that many, many FEAR the Anti-Male Family court system's and CHILD SUPPORT MORE than the Terrorists, and I am finding out that is also true for those at home....

WHO DO YOU FEAR MORE ??

The Beast of fathers....Is there number#1 concern.

Here's a new article that reports on Divorce and Child Support and how it is destroying the military from within.

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/u-v/usher/2005/usher051105.htm

Military recuiting is turning into a homefront disaster...

I done my homework, and collected many data, evidences to support my claims of death and destruction.....

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1269

The feminists that hate males are being trained in our schools(Women studies, Women Family Law schools,etc...)These are the same group of spirits that support the baby death factories,killing disable people, drugging boys, and destroying fathers,etc....

It's time we face the devil women and realize what they represent to mankind and GOD creations.....These demons are vampires who love death and hate GOD...

ps...Not all Fathers are bad people, there are more good than bad, but the good get more punish than the bad.....

vet out


10 posted on 05/11/2005 9:50:24 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: Orlando

Tinfoil time.


11 posted on 05/11/2005 9:51:03 AM PDT by biblewonk (Socialism isn't all bad.)
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To: Orlando
Many of the women I work with have children but are not married, because if they're married, they can't have their kids on Medicaid.

Carolyn

12 posted on 05/11/2005 9:56:30 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: biblewonk

At least I am tune in to the truth.
What is wrong with my tinfoil hat ? I think it looks cool :)
lol


13 posted on 05/11/2005 11:04:49 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: CDHart

It's sad we have a federal system that supports destroying fathers, and punishing women and their childrens.

How can we fix this ?

There are alot of GOOD MEN/FATHERS that want to care, love, and provide for their childrens, but this system's is preventing it from happening.

why?


14 posted on 05/11/2005 11:13:15 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: starfish923
Their presence on campsuses is highly valued because they tend to bring up the general gpa of the campus.

Thats still debatable, most colleges (and no one has yet to explain this to me on why) don't even differentiate asians at all. Indians, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, they may as well be all the same.

There is some controversy in NYC about the skewed numbers in the gifted programs. Its predominatly asian, with very very few african americans or hispanics, and (second to asians) whites.

Its still a issue. At my old college and my grad school, they had affirmative action programs (as does also NYU in NYC), asians recieved no points or any kind of preferances, and (illegaly) may have been capped.

I know my grad school class was capped with asians, and my old college, a few administrators admitted it.

NYU openly caps asians, as a matter of maintaining diversity.

The official reason being that for the number of asians that apply, and would qualify, the diversity of the school would be skewed.

I do not believe, however, any rumors about them also applying that to jewish students, that was just anti-semetic wishfull thinking by a professor there.

Columbuia does cap asian enrollment, as I have several friends who are going there now. (Sidenote: What you read in the papers about the schools controvery, is true). Its clear as day and admitted by the school, that the applicant pool does not reflect the school makeup and every effort is made to maintain a proper make up on campus.

If you want a peak at the next big racial problem that is starting to college and grad schools, check out the new thing between african-americans, and african and carribean immigrants. Thats heating up and I expect to see a whole nest of problems coming out now. Watch the PC crowd do backflips on that.

15 posted on 05/11/2005 12:02:47 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Orlando

Those hats are great if you have a buzz cut and your head is burning. I've been on the receiving end of a lot of government handouts and they have only helped me as a Father of 8 and husband of one wife.


16 posted on 05/11/2005 12:16:10 PM PDT by biblewonk (Socialism isn't all bad.)
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To: Orlando
The feminists that hate males are being trained in our schools(Women studies, Women Family Law schools,etc...)These are the same group of spirits that support the baby death factories,killing disable people, drugging boys, and destroying fathers,etc.... It's time we face the devil women and realize what they represent to mankind and GOD creations.....These demons are vampires who love death and hate GOD... ps...Not all Fathers are bad people, there are more good than bad, but the good get more punish than the bad.....
vet out

No arguement from me, vet.
Btw, thank you for serving.

17 posted on 05/11/2005 3:57:34 PM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Sonny M
Sigh.
I'm not looking forward to any more race crap.
Cream always rises to the top, no matter what race the cream is.

It does NO GOOD to enroll minorities or women if it sets them up to fail. And fail they will if they can't compete at a university level. Bigger, smarter fish will eat them alive....regradless of the race of the bigger fish.

It's a warm-up for the world of work -- that DOESN'T include civil service. No one gets rich working for civil service.

18 posted on 05/11/2005 4:02:31 PM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: starfish923
No one gets rich working for civil service.

I know a city inspector who fell and sued the city, does that count?

That said, todays system dooms minorities to fail.

Look, I'm not good at science or medicine, but just because I want to be a doctor doesn't mean I should be.

Sticking me in med school, where I can fail out does not help me, and worse, passing me through med school, only hurts others (you know why I'm using this example).

If some kid should be in a community college, where he has a better chance to make it, good, but sending him to a university where he takes somone elses spot, and then fails out, hurts not 1 but 2 folks.

19 posted on 05/11/2005 4:20:14 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
I know a city inspector who fell and sued the city, does that count?
NO.

That said, todays system dooms minorities to fail.
Look, I'm not good at science or medicine, but just because I want to be a doctor doesn't mean I should be.
Sticking me in med school, where I can fail out does not help me, and worse, passing me through med school, only hurts others (you know why I'm using this example).
Sending some kid should be in a community college, where he has a better chance to make it, good, but sending him to a university where he takes somone elses spot, and then fails out, hurts not 1 but 2 folks.

Agreed.
The straight white Euro male ends up having the do the whole thing on his own, with loans from everyone, working two jobs, summer, etc., on a 7-year plan.
But in the end he owes NO ONE and no one OWNS him. He has acquired backbone and learned to be an AmerI CAN.
Women and minorities who use the system will have to face, sooner or later, the "what goes around comes around" deal...or become Democrats and be in denial or convince themselves that thhe "deserved" it, based on only their race and/or gender. That is, they learn that being women and minorities they are helpless victims who will always and always need help from Uncle Sam...and will NEVER get off the government nipple. They continue to keep themselves losers, on the plantation, under the thumb and whip of the "massah."

20 posted on 05/11/2005 4:40:20 PM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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