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Evolution on trial again
ARS TECHNICA ^ | Sunday, May 08, 2005 | Jonathan M. Gitlin

Posted on 05/09/2005 8:22:16 AM PDT by anguish

Evolution on trial again

This week sees the 80th anniversary of the trial of John Scopes, teacher, for breaking the newly-passed Butler Act, which prohibited the teaching of evolution in the state of Tennessee. Conceived as a PR stunt to put the town of Dayton, TN on the map, it succeeded in making a laughingstock of the state, which found Scopes guilty in a trial that garnered enormous publicity. 80 years later, scientists have identified DNA as the medium in which heredity is passed on, constructed a map of the entire human genome and can routinely manipulate genetic information in the laboratory. Yet despite the advances we have made in the field, there remains a certain intransigence towards accepting as unquestioned scientific fact the theory of evolution as it pertains to the development of humankind. Although the Roman Catholic Church and other Christian churches defer to the scientific community on this, a highly vocal and well-funded group of fundamentalists in the United States are still bent on the suppression of evolution in schools.

Whereas the Scopes Trial of 1925 took place in a court room, this current fight takes place in front of the Kansas School Board, some of whom could not even be bothered to read through a draft of scientific standards. This board of educators, most of whom are confessed skeptics of evolution, have invited the researchers from the Intelligent Design research group Discovery Institute in Seattle to present the case that thousands of scientists worldwide have in effect been lying to themselves and the whole world by claiming that evolution — rather than God — is responsible for the vast array of biodiversity we find on the planet Earth. Scientists, led by the AAAS, have decided not to dignify these hearings by appearing before them. This event comes hot on the heels of previous efforts by the Kansas School Board to prevent the teaching of evolution, and moves by Cobb County in Georgia to label biology textbooks with a warning that evolution remains a theory. Oddly in that case they did not point out the same is true of gravity in physics books.

While the battle between fundamentalists and educators continues in the wilds of Kansas, the business of actually studying evolution marches on. A new report in Nature this week describes the rapid speciation of cichlid fish descended from the now-extinct Lake Makgadikgadi in Africa. Using mitochondrial DNA the researchers have shown a huge variety of fish species are descended from an original flock from the now defunct lake. Why have these cichlids undergone such diverse adaptations? The fish have a second set of jaws further back in their throats, that allow the main pair to develop and adapt to changing conditions, for example with big jaws from cracking snail shells, or long jaws for better predation. The female fish incubate their eggs in their mouths, and more "personal" breeding means sex selection is important, another factor in their rapid speciation.

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To: anguish
Question for Christian evolutionists: Did God supernaturally bypass the laws of nature to allow evolution to happen?

If so, why do you believe evolution? If not, evolution could not have occured, because the infusion of new DNA information into the genetic makeup of a species has been proved impossible.
21 posted on 05/09/2005 8:50:38 AM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: Sybeck1

Well, that's about as accurate as his Vietnam War coverage.

At least he's a consistent journalist.


22 posted on 05/09/2005 8:50:42 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: JCEccles

How many times must evolution be proven false before these godless librals are thrown out of the class rooms?


23 posted on 05/09/2005 8:51:23 AM PDT by radicalliberty
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To: mikeus_maximus
The article conveniently fails to point out that it is at the biomolecular level that Neodarwinism’s fallacy is especially apparent. So much so, in fact, that Francis Crick postulated DNA must have been deposited on Earth by spaceships

And you conveniently fail to reveal what you've been smokng.

24 posted on 05/09/2005 8:52:10 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: TeenagedConservative
If not, evolution could not have occured, because the infusion of new DNA information into the genetic makeup of a species has been proved impossible.

Doubtless you will post a URL linking to this most interesting proof... or perhaps you'd care to summarise the proof.

25 posted on 05/09/2005 8:52:54 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: JCEccles
Richard Dawkins will explain the magic of the gaps to you just as soon as he finishes his most current character assassination and ad hominem broadsides on religious believers who refuse to convert to his faith. I suspect he's too busy trying to get Anthony Flew to take his calls and come back to the reservation.
26 posted on 05/09/2005 8:53:08 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: radicalliberty
How many times must evolution be proven false before these godless librals are thrown out of the class rooms?

How about one time? Post one proof for us to study.

27 posted on 05/09/2005 8:53:53 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: radicalliberty
How many times must evolution be proven false before these godless librals are thrown out of the class rooms?

Maybe a good start would be throwing them off of FreeRepublic. No true conservative would believe in evolution anyhow.

28 posted on 05/09/2005 8:53:55 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: radicalliberty

Just once. Care to take a shot?


29 posted on 05/09/2005 8:54:52 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: JCEccles
Materialist Creation Story??

Nice try, but a bit lame. Here's a classic.


The Creation of Men and Women

When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.

The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked/ "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.

Salinan Indian creation story, south-central California


30 posted on 05/09/2005 9:01:22 AM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: js1138

Something out of nothing.

One day accoding to Carl Sagan, there was a ball about an inch thick out in the middle of nothing. That ball contained all the matter in the universe. One day that ball exploded and that is how we got all we have around us today.

Anyone tell me how that ball got there?


31 posted on 05/09/2005 9:03:51 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: anguish
Although the Roman Catholic Church and other Christian churches defer to the scientific community on this, a highly vocal and well-funded group of fundamentalists in the United States are still bent on the suppression of evolution in schools.

That is a lie. The people of Kansas have no intention of suppressing the teaching of evolution. They do however intend to show its weakness. Furthermore, the RCC has not given the scientific community full approval. Indeed, Pope Benedict has signaled in his opening homily that there needs to be radical changes in the Darwinist camp. The following article was written in 2000 by a friend of mine.

Why Kansas Catholics Opposed The Teaching of Evolution
By Jack Cashill, Ph.D.


Time after time at the now famous Topeka hearings on Kansas state science standards, the so-called "science educators" would cite Pope John Paul II to support their evolutionary position. And time after time, nearly apoplectic, the Catholic representatives at the hearings would just about jump out of their chairs.

Willfully or otherwise, the science educators misconstrued the Pope's position. This disturbed the Catholics at Topeka to be sure, but it did not surprise them. What has surprised them, shocked them really, are the dismissive editorials by their fellow Catholics who understand the Pope's position only superficially and who understand the science educators' not at all.

For the record, Pope John Paul II and the U.S. Bishops have no objection to certain theories of evolution as long as they allow for God's creation of the world and the special creation of man. This is a shrewd posture on the part of the Pope as it allows for the Church to adapt to new scientific discoveries without a challenge to the faith.

Unfortunately, the Church's position does not wash with evolutionary biologists of any repute or ambition. They may avoid conflict with the Vatican by either ignoring or misquoting the Pope, but in fact, Catholic teaching is antithetical to their own, and they know it. A little background here is in order. In 1859, Charles Darwin published The Origin of Species. This elegant and timely work made two basic claims: One is that living things experience what Darwin called "variations" or what we call "mutations"--genetic changes that occur randomly. The second is that a process he called "natural selection" preserves favorable variations and rejects harmful ones.

The best evidence Darwin could cite for this theory was the breeding of domestic animals. These obvious changes within a species--called microevolution--no one could deny then, and no one denies today, certainly not the Church, nor the much maligned Kansas Board of Education.

The question Darwin had to ask himself--the tough question--was whether this theory could account for macroevolution, the presumed bridge from one species to another and the mechanism he thought responsible for the vast diversity of life.

Darwin and his philosophical heirs answer an unequivocal "Yes." Richard Dawkins, today's most influential evolutionist, describes natural selection as "a blind, unconscious, automatic process" that is "the explanation for the existence and apparently purposeful form of all life."

That's a quote. The explanation. All life. What room does that leave for, well, say, God? Not much.

"In the evolutionary pattern of thought," said Julian Huxley on the occasion of the Darwin Centennial in 1959, "there is no longer either need or room for the supernatural. The earth was not created. It evolved."

No need. No room. And Huxley's sentiment is the rule, not the exception. The renowned biologist Stephen Jay Gould praises Darwinism as "a rigidly materialistic and basically atheistic version of evolution." Darwin made it possible," boasts Richard Dawkins, "to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist."

These are their own words. As to the inescapable ramifications of Darwinism, distinguished Cornell University Professor Will Provine, evolutionary biologist and neo-Darwinian, happily cites the impossibility of either free will or life after death.

The larger philosophy is often called naturalism, nature is all that there is; or materialism, matter is all that there is. In its most extreme forms, scientific naturalism provided a rationale for the terror of Nazi eugenics and the tyranny of communism. Wrote Marx to Engels of Darwin's The Origin of Species, "This is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our view."

Pope John Paul II has preached often against materialism and specifically so in an evolutionary context. Aware of this, the Catholics at the Topeka hearings objected not only to the undeniable connection between today's science establishment and the eugenics movement, but also to the implicit materialism of the proposed science standards themselves.

For all its harsh consequences, materialism would present a real challenge to the faith only if its own particular creation myth, Darwinism, was irrefutable. But Darwinism is hardly that. There is, after all, no evidence of existing transitional species as Darwin presumed there ought to be. None. There's no hard evidence of the same in the fossil record. Most species haven't changed at all. The major animal groups did not emerge gradually as Darwin predicted, but they exploded on to the scene. Nor did they die out gradually as Darwin said they would. Those that vanished, vanished in a geological heartbeat.

It gets worse. In one of his bolder moments, Darwin said "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

Darwin knew nothing of the electron microscope and cellular biology. His champion, Richard Dawkins, knows a lot. As Dawkins notes, the nucleus of each cell contains more information than all 30 volumes of the encyclopedia Brittanica put together, complex, specific and perfectly ordered.

Richard Dawkins imagines the cell as a Xerox machine, capable, he says, "of copying its own blueprints," but "not capable of springing spontaneously into existence." So picture Dawkins on the brink of infinity, pumping what Darwin called "secretions" from his barely evolved brain, trying desperately to figure how this this wonderfully complex machine came to be. His best guess? No joke: "sheer, unadulterated, miraculous luck." It must have slopped itself together, he surmises, from some imagined chemical soup.

Luck indeed, it's a task scientists have never been able to duplicate in the lab. Not to be outdone, Nobel laureate Frances Crick argues that these first primitive life forms might have come to earth, hang on, in a spaceship sent by a dying alien civilization.

In truth, neither Dawkins nor Crick have a clue where these first cells came from. Neither do their peers. Indeed, when biochemist Michael Behe searched the scientific journals looking for a Darwinian explanation, he found instead "an eerie and complete silence."

Said Darwin , "I would give nothing for the theory of natural selection if it requires miraculous additions at any one stage of descent." One wonders how he would feel about utterly whimsical "additions" like spaceships or luck.

Still, America's public school teachers can present this goofiness in class as science but can not even address the rational possibility of a willful, intelligent creation of life. And the editorialists, even the Catholic ones, cheer on this kind of teaching, fearing to be cast among the anti-Darwinian few whom Dawkins calls the "ignorant, stupid, insane, or wicked."

Ironically, the loud, spiteful resistance from the establishment bodes well for the future. It is a sign not of confidence but of confusion. It may even portend a genuine shift in the paradigm.

Richard Dawkins himself admits that "the beauty and elegance of biological design" gives us "the illusion of design and planning." But trapped by a lifetime of scornful pride and self-congratulation, he will abandon his weary materialism no more eagerly than the Soviets abandoned theirs.

The very Catholic (9 children) Michael Behe is not so trapped. "Over the past four decades," he writes in the ground breaking book, Darwin's Black Box, "modern biochemistry has uncovered the secrets of the cell." "The result," he adds, "is a loud, piercing cry of DESIGN." In Behe's opinion, this observation is "as momentous as the observation that the earth goes round the sun."

Try as they might, the science establishment and their friends in the media cannot suppress this kind of news forever.

Jack Cashill, Ph.D., has written and produced an hour long documentary, The Triumph of Design and The Demise of Darwin, in collaboration with Phillip Johnson. Jack is a Fullbright scholar and a regional Emmy Award winner. See Jack Cashill News: America's Conservative Information Resource.
32 posted on 05/09/2005 9:04:49 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Sybeck1
Anyone tell me how that ball got there?

Maybe God created it. This thread is about evolution, not Carl Sagan's lack of religion.

33 posted on 05/09/2005 9:05:11 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Sybeck1
Actually, Carl Sagan never said any of that. It was the universe (i.e., everything) that expanded at the Big Bang. It was not out in the middle of nothing; it was everything. There is a big difference.

Thank you for posting your erroneous cartoon version of the current thinking in cosmology. You might try to actually learn something before tackling such a subject, though.

34 posted on 05/09/2005 9:08:21 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: js1138
,i>The article conveniently fails to point out that it is at the biomolecular level that Neodarwinism’s fallacy is especially apparent. So much so, in fact, that Francis Crick postulated DNA must have been deposited on Earth by spaceships

And you conveniently fail to reveal what you've been smokng.

Obviouly, you've never heard of Directed Panspermia. http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/Views/Exhibit/narrative/neurobiology.html Fantastic, isn't it? It's what Crick was left with, when the years of DNA studies subsequent to his 1952 discovery showed the natural origin of DNA to be a mere fantasy.
35 posted on 05/09/2005 9:08:40 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 05/09/2005 9:08:49 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Junior

And the materials neede for the Big Bang came from what?


37 posted on 05/09/2005 9:10:37 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: mikeus_maximus

Ah yes, the aliens. When confronted with an unsolved problem in science, call upon aliens, or magic.


38 posted on 05/09/2005 9:11:14 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: Sybeck1

"And the materials neede for the Big Bang came from what?"

From the God of Abraham, Issac, David, and the rest, of course.

Just like evolution, which is a natural process He put in place.

Has no more to do with religion that yeast rising.


39 posted on 05/09/2005 9:13:01 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Sybeck1

Really, this argument goes nowhere, as it has a million times before. What created the event that the universe exploded from? Maybe the same process that created your god. Science doesn't know, neither does religion. Arguing whose complete ignorance is greater on this topic, religion of science, is pointless


40 posted on 05/09/2005 9:16:06 AM PDT by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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