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Day that forever changed the city
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Sun, May. 08, 2005 | By Larry Eichel

Posted on 05/08/2005 12:30:21 PM PDT by baseballmom

Twenty years ago this Friday, Philadelphia became "The City That Bombed Itself."

On the evening of May 13, 1985, in the Cobbs Creek section of West Philadelphia, police dropped explosives onto the headquarters of the radical group MOVE. The explosion started a fire that city officials allowed to burn.

When the blaze was out, 61 homes were gone and 11 people, five of them children, were dead inside MOVE headquarters.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bombsaway; domesticterrorists; move; moveon; philadelphia; radicalleft; wwilsongoode
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Twenty years ago. I remember it well. Mother's Day, 1985. We heard the sound of those gunshots from our house. Travel down a shameful memory lane....
1 posted on 05/08/2005 12:30:24 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: baseballmom

I can't recall this event, wait, I can't recall the 80's anyway lol. Good post, I'm gonna do some reading on this . Be well :)

Jeff


2 posted on 05/08/2005 12:33:41 PM PDT by MississippyMuddy (No peace, without FREEDOM!!)
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To: Tribune7; Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; Willie Green; Mo1

Can you ping the list Tribune7?

Thought you and others would enjoy the front page in the Inquirer today.

Still no talk about a statue to Wilson Goode??? I'm shocked.


3 posted on 05/08/2005 12:36:05 PM PDT by baseballmom
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MOVE was a bunch of nut cases, but dropping the giant "flash-bang" on the roof was a pretty drastic act. Kind of set the stage for government action that lead to this 8 years later:


4 posted on 05/08/2005 12:38:07 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: baseballmom

One of the more bizarre LEO moments.


5 posted on 05/08/2005 12:38:47 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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From bugmenot - login.

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6 posted on 05/08/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

my pleasure.

Ping


7 posted on 05/08/2005 12:42:38 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: baseballmom
Is it a coincidence that Move and Move On share a name?
8 posted on 05/08/2005 12:47:03 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: baseballmom

I remember that day.

I'm glad that all of the police officers who had to contend with those urban terrorists, went home to their wives and children that day.

That was a time when we placed a higher value on the lives of the men who keep law and order, over those of urban terrorists and their children. The shame of those children's deaths rest squarely on the shoulders of the urban terrorists.

No sleep lost here over this.


9 posted on 05/08/2005 12:48:32 PM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

As in "just Move along, nothing to see here?". LOL


10 posted on 05/08/2005 12:48:45 PM PDT by baseballmom
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In addition to the flash bang(actually it was a custom made concussion bomb, put together by Philly's finest and dropped from a SWAT chopper) Did you know that over 10,000 rounds of small arms fire was dispensed at the MOVE compound after the fire started, turning them back into the building to be burned alive.

That's 10,000 rounds in the middle of an urban neighborhood! JFC!

They were a whacky bunch, but law violations were limited to city health code violations, residency permits, truancy of the kids(they were being homeschooled very well!), and some failure to appear warrants from the preceding civil code junk.

When the city shut off water or electric, they just ran a hose from a neighbor's property or extension cords. The cops tried to starve them out as well. Neighborhood sympathizers were tossing groceries and supplies over the fence and in the windows whenever they could.

Rizzo was the first to deal with MOVE. Nobody died and he was a racist thug mayor, right?????(sarcasm)

11 posted on 05/08/2005 12:53:06 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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Exactly. Rizzo dealt with them first, just after we moved to Phila.

A horrible day in the history of Philadelphia.


12 posted on 05/08/2005 12:56:52 PM PDT by baseballmom
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Don't buy that line of thought. MOVE was in no way deserving of what was carried out on them. Very low IQ police work should make you sleep deprived. The real scenario at the time ended up being so disproportionate to the offenses, and many of them fabricated at that.

I was 25 at the time and that was my field service territory. I followed it very closely.

The nauseating part was that because a black mayor was in office, it was just jiggy to murder everyone in the house and burn down the entire neighborhood. The small arms fire which the fire department claimed kept them from handling the situation was all being fired by the cops. Almost like a thousand deer hunters in a circle, shooting at one target. Cops shooting so hazardly that they all were taking rounds thru cars, windows, and debris flying everywhere. Absolute mayhem.

13 posted on 05/08/2005 1:02:10 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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Before the eradication of several blocks from Cobbs Creek section in Phila, several of the MOVE male members were serving time at the State Correctional Institute at Graterford while I was a corrections officer. This was, and probably still is, one of the largest maximum security prisons in America.

Regardless of it's size or the caliber (worst of the worst)of the inmates, I have fond memories of whenever a MOVE member walked into one of 5 cell block's cafeterias, while several hundred inmates waited in line to be served. It was as if Moses was parting the Red Sea.

These guys were absolutely filty! No one could stand the stench or want to be within 10 feet of them.

They refused to bathe or practice any type of hygene. We correction officers, while covered in full rain gear, had to physically restain them, cut their clothes off and carry them into the block shower rooms. This was only after the hot water was turned on full force and the spigot handles removed. They were literally 'steamed cleaned'.

Block inmate janitors were then ordered to remove EVERYTHING, including the bedding, from their cells and taken to the prison incinerary. This was done on a monthly basis.


14 posted on 05/08/2005 1:05:01 PM PDT by moonman
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it was just jiggy to murder everyone ...in English please???
15 posted on 05/08/2005 1:11:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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I used to board my horse in Fairmount Park, Chestnut Hill. I became very good friends with a lot of the mounted police division at Northwestern Avenue. The mounted cops were amazingly critical of the administration, privately. The roundhouse and city hall are so corrupt and full of idiots, I would find it impossible to work for the city. It seems as though paychecks for doing nothing, and being in lockstep with a city government without ethics is so urban chique in Philly. Or should I say suburban chique, because all the do nothing city managers live outside the city(which is illegal). Thos black city cars fill the driveways from about 11:00AM until 3:00PM every day, and then again at 5:00PM when they come home for the day.


16 posted on 05/08/2005 1:12:00 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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"The two sides - the city government and MOVE, an eccentric, self-described back-to-nature group obsessed with defending itself against the world - had clashed once before with deadly results.

In that 1978 confrontation, a police officer, James Ramp, was killed and several of his colleagues were wounded. And a MOVE member was beaten and kicked by police in full view of news cameras.

Nine MOVE members were convicted of the killing, even though there was some dispute whether any of them fired the fatal bullet. Eight of them remain in prison today; the ninth died of cancer in 1998. The officers involved in the beating were acquitted of all charges.

So when the remnants of the organization regrouped several years later at 6221 Osage Ave. - and began fortifying the house, brandishing weapons, and berating the neighbors with obscenity-filled tirades day and night - Round 2 seemed all but inevitable."

from the article


17 posted on 05/08/2005 1:16:14 PM PDT by minus_273
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Moonman greetings. Yes, they were filthy. They also ate afterbirth ceremoniously. Everything they ate was to be only raw.

Curiously the children, several with diabetes were no longer insulin dependant on a MOVE diet. Why the hell they couldn't have moved to Chester County or some place in Bucks County where they wouldn't be at such proximity to others puzzles me? Ever smell Amish? Very ripe as well. Almost as bad as Hassidic jews in the summer.

18 posted on 05/08/2005 1:18:00 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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Jiggy in this case???

Well, it was OK because with Goode in power, all the rebuilding contracts went to minority owned construction firms who replaced $40,000 homes at a price of over $280,000 a copy. A lot of money was made by many on the deal and it bought silence.

Smelly black folk posess a somewhat reduced appraisal value when it's a black mayor who kills them. Who weeps for those MOVE kids? Not a single person IMHO(other than Irv Homer, who's on his last pulminary beat any moment)

19 posted on 05/08/2005 1:26:27 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: moonman

Is Ramona out yet?


20 posted on 05/08/2005 1:30:06 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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