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Snow fort builders facing prison time
Metro West Daily News ^ | May 4, 2005 | Norman Miller

Posted on 05/08/2005 7:04:09 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: Krankor

Just exactly who was waiting to use the snow mound? Nitwit.


61 posted on 05/08/2005 9:11:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Krankor
No one enforced anything here.
Welcome, Newbie.
62 posted on 05/08/2005 9:12:30 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: Krankor
"Are these kids paying taxes?"

Every time they pay for something in MA they pay sales tax which goes into the state coffers. Much of that is paid out to the cities and towns in subsidies for such projects as school buildings and maintenance. So yes, they pay taxes.

63 posted on 05/08/2005 9:14:03 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Krankor

You said: So, if me and four buddies, as taxpayers, decided to go down to the local high school and start playing basketball in the gym, then school authorities would have to tell the basketball team to wait until we were done?

If school authorities, and not the police, had asked the teens to leave school grounds (which is not likely, since school was closed), it would be a different story. Do the police have the authority to decide who may and who may not be on public property? Did anyone from the school, charged with running the school, tell them, or tell the police to tell them, to leave? No school meeting or function was being disrupted, as far as I can tell.

I support the job police have to do, but I am not sure that this was anything the police should have been involved in.


64 posted on 05/08/2005 9:16:36 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: gitmo
Yes, but this is the people of the nation, for the nation, and by the nation.

Your version of the famous line from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address gives a dark new meaning to "National Sovereignty." ...
65 posted on 05/08/2005 9:23:51 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media!)
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To: NCLaw441

Check out the actual news site. Apparently, the assistant principal did call the cops.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=97716


66 posted on 05/08/2005 9:24:44 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: Lazamataz
That's because I look like this:

That s'plains everything.

67 posted on 05/08/2005 9:26:20 AM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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To: Cobra64

What are you, lady, the grammer police?


68 posted on 05/08/2005 9:28:02 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: sharkhawk
I see a disturbing trend on Free Republic, too. People cheering authority for authority's sake, no matter how little common sense is applied.

After all the rules are the rules are the rules, don't forget to genuflect before the almighty lawbook. /sarc

Stupid rules are stupid. Stupid applications of well meaning rules are also stupid. If the rules are not written to take into account instances in which the rules should not apply, as many petty rules are, then the rules should be tossed.

Increasingly, we see cases where people in authority are incapable of administering the rules with any sense of prosecutorial discretion.

Inner city kids are supposed to use school facilities after hours to play on outside basketball courts, but a few kids cannot use a snow pile to play on a snow day?

When authority is ludicrous, we rebel, in one way or another. Ever go faster than the posted speed limit?

As for homeschooling, at home the rules make sense.

With the incredible number of rules and regulations being promulgated daily, virtually anyone is in violation of some rule, somewhere, sometime. And the situation is getting worse, not better. Before long, every whiner who thinks "there ought to be a law" will have their way and we can all be in thrall to the state.

69 posted on 05/08/2005 9:29:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Cobra64

This article is about someone sticking their nose where it really doesn't belong, over stepping their authority, and here you are doing the same thing to someone for bad grammar.

Some people should be looking in the mirror.


70 posted on 05/08/2005 9:30:03 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Judge Roy
Too bad this wasn't being done on our borders.Image hosted by Photobucket.com
71 posted on 05/08/2005 9:30:07 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (H.R. 698)
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To: Krankor
So, if me and my four buddies just want to sleep in the gym overnight- without disturbing school functions of course, then it's ok?
 
What? This was on the school GROUNDS! Not inside the building! I don't know what the practice is in the great communist state of MASS, but around here we encourage the kids to play on school grounds. That's what playgrounds are for, play! It is certainly not uncommon to find a group playing in the snow in winter or having a football game in summer. Kids utilizing taxpayer ground is trespassing? This is utterly ridiculous. What could they possibly been hurting?
 
Sure sounds to me like this cop had a problem. I wonder who complained about the kids having a little innocent fun. Hell the cops around here would probably help build the fort.
 
That said, to disrespect the officer is totally wrong. If they did indeed become smart asses, then a little trip to the pokey will do them good. They'll walk with a slap on the wrist and next time have a little more respect.

72 posted on 05/08/2005 9:31:04 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
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To: Krankor
Ah, a grammar and spelling enforcer. Looks like we got another "Barney Fife".

Your rite. When me goes hyking, me takes my Sig pissstole wit me. Me always haz fiftean rounds in da magaseen and won in da bleach. Dat way me is alwaze pripaird.

Regards, Barney

73 posted on 05/08/2005 9:32:47 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Krankor
So, if me and my four buddies just want to sleep in the gym overnight- without disturbing school functions of course, then it's ok?

School grounds outside of the building should be treated essentially the same as park grounds. Park grounds are open to the public during the day. Comparing being outside in a parklike setting to being inside a secured building is just silly.

74 posted on 05/08/2005 9:33:23 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: Nachum

A school is public property. Last I heard, 18 year old kids were part of the public.

Where am I going wrong?


75 posted on 05/08/2005 9:34:16 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: Cobra64
No, now that I think about it, you're not Barney, you're Gomer.


You forgot the period! Citizen's arrest, citizen's arrest!
76 posted on 05/08/2005 9:41:51 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: Mrs Mark

I assume the assistant principal has the authority to order students off school property when the school is closed- probably even when it's open.


77 posted on 05/08/2005 9:44:17 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: jwh_Denver
Now if asking a cop for his badge number is smarting off. Correct me if I'm wrong here but I believe a cop HAS to give his badge number when asked.

Is that all they did? Maybe there are more facts. The kids would have fared better having sex somewhere warm. Then everybody would have been happy.

A neighbor gave my kid and me one of our happiest memories. They didn't object when he built, for him, and elaborate ski jump on their property. He was so proud of it, and I walked down the alley to see it and watch him perform. Another neighbor used to loan my kids their toboggan.

Thinking back, I should have asked the first neighbor if it was all right (he could have found me if he didn't like it) and made sure my son cleaned up the boards after he was done. I was a little negligent in the good neighbor department there, was really thoughtless of me, but I was younger and struggling to survive. If I see him out in his beautiful garden, I'll ask him if he remembers. Maybe somebody else owns the property now.

Another neighbor on one of the nicest streets in town, let the kids use their pool. When the flag was up, the kids could go swimming. I was a little leery about that because I didn't know how much supervision they were getting, but it was generous of them to think of the kids. The flag is long gone now. So are the kids. There are much fewer around here, and it has one of the best elementary schools in town.

Now everybody, including me, is so afraid of lawsuits, things are different. I even worry about it when I catch the neighbor kids in my trees. Sometimes I give permission, but watch them like a hawk and then tell them time to come down. Watching one girl go so high up and the gyrations to reach an apple was really something. I just had to ask her to come down, saying I didn't mind them taking the apples, but didn't want them to get hurt. I used to love to climb trees, but one mad parent and lawsuit my less friendly insurance company could try to weasle out of could finish me off. I doubt a release form, making the parents sign, blah blah would hold up in court anyway.

78 posted on 05/08/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Krankor
Check out the actual news site. Apparently, the assistant principal did call the cops.

"...order from Assistant Superintendent Ed Torti to leave the school grounds..." Well is it an "assistant principal" or an "Assistant Superintendent"? One thing is clear this Ed Torti is bucking to be an "Assistant Warden", the truly sad thing is that he is on the public payroll.

79 posted on 05/08/2005 9:46:58 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: NCLaw441
Did anyone from the school, charged with running the school, tell them, or tell the police to tell them, to leave?

Actually, the entire article isn't posted here. I went to the link and searched on what kankor posted, and it was there.

The school superintendent asked them to leave, and when they refused, he called the cops.

I still believe this is a rediculous escalation for playing in the snow.

80 posted on 05/08/2005 9:51:19 AM PDT by easonc52
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