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Communists Host "Meet" on Religion
People's Weekly World News Paper | 04-28-05 | Susan Webb

Posted on 05/04/2005 8:54:17 AM PDT by clearsight

Communists host meet on religion Author: Susan Webb People's Weekly World Newspaper, 04/28/05 13:46

DES MOINES, Iowa — “The word of God and communism are hand in hand,” said Diana Sowry, a school bus driver from Ashtabula County, Ohio. She was one of a group of clergy and lay people participating in a conference on religion sponsored by the Communist Party USA here April 15-16.

Sowry is a union activist and also active in her church, where she sings in the choir. She feels communists and others who are working to defeat the ultra-right and advance peace, social and economic justice, and socialism are “doing the work of the Word.”

The Rev. Scott Marks, from New Haven, Conn., said “people in the pews” cannot simply stick to “feel-good issues,” but must “be willing to go to the wall on the real issues.” Noting that attendance at soup kitchens is “piling up,” he said, “People full well know, no matter what happens in heaven, this morning I woke up hungry.”

Marks, son of a North Carolina sharecropper, is a Pentecostal minister who leads the Connecticut Center for a New Economy. For him this is doing “the real work” of Jesus. “It’s not pie in the sky when we die,” Marks told the World. “It’s how are we going to change things in the here and now.”

Conference sessions dealt with the history of religion and Marxism, the religious right, coalition building, and work in local churches and denominational and ecumenical groups.

In the session on work in local churches, the Rev. Gil Dawes, a retired volunteer pastor at Trinity Methodist Church here, emphasized that grassroots progressive religious activism has deep historical roots, and has to be re-energized today. “That’s where the right is way ahead of us,” he said.

Dawes, a second-generation Methodist minister, draws inspiration from the circuit-rider preachers who traveled through small towns and rural areas to teach a social gospel. He teaches Bible study classes with a materialist interpretation that lets ordinary people see how their problems are connected to larger political and economic forces.

“People are repressed about their own pain,” he said, “but when I choose a story that’s 3,000 years old, that’s far enough in the past. When I start to unravel that story, people break out of that repression.” They relate stories of farms lost and families shattered by hard times.

“People suffering will become leaders if they have a chance to put it together with other people,” Dawes said. This kind of Bible study helped turn one congregation from fundamentalist to one of the most progressive, he said.

In the session on Marx and religion, Paul Nelson, a Lutheran minister who teaches at a community college in Iowa, disputed the idea that Marx opposed all religion. What Marx denounced was an “illusory” form of religion that served as “ideological cover for the exercise of aristocratic economic and political power,” Nelson said. Like the reactionary state religion in 19th century Germany, today “we see religion twisted and turned and used to discipline people,” he said.

Right-wing Christian ideologues focus on the next world and individuals’ private relationships with Jesus, Nelson said. But progressive, “living” religion is based in human activity in “the world we know,” he argued. It sees the “kingdom of heaven” as something to strive for in the real world.

One participant, an industrial worker, spoke of how Americans are losing jobs and “deciding whether to pay for rent or food.” Noting “most people have some religion in their life,” he said clergy and lay people should address these “real world” issues and help bring progressive social change.

The discussion included plans for a workshop at the Communist Party’s national convention in Chicago, July 1-3. Many participants expressed interest in the formation of an ongoing party commission on religious work encompassing all faiths. Its activities could include initiating a national newsletter of social activism and left politics in religious communities, and a web site with tools for progressive religious activists.

Participants came from seven states ranging from New England to California. They included people who are active in interfaith social justice work and others interested in combining religious belief and communist activism. It was the first time in attendees’ memory that the Communist Party had initiated such a discussion.

The spirit of enthusiasm and comradeship was stoked by home-cooked meals and singing led by the Rev. David Carl Olson, minister of the Community Church of Boston and also a musical theater artist.


TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: communism; communists; cpusa; fools; idiots; liberationtheology; marxists; morons; ncc; religiousleft; stupidity; usefulidiots; uselessidiots; wcc
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Wow......deception seems to rule the day..........
1 posted on 05/04/2005 8:54:18 AM PDT by clearsight
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To: clearsight
The Marxists have discovered Jesus? Poor Karl Marx is rolling over in his grave.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 05/04/2005 8:56:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: clearsight
The Marxists have discovered Jesus? Poor Karl Marx is rolling over in his grave.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 05/04/2005 8:56:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: clearsight

Communist's host their useful idiots.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 8:56:40 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: clearsight
Don't these "Christians" know what happens to religion in communist countries?

What a bunch of dunderheads.

5 posted on 05/04/2005 8:57:11 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: clearsight
Diana Sowry, a school bus driver

Dang, I'd love to hear from the kids who ride with the Marxist Bus Driver. That must be a hoot.
7 posted on 05/04/2005 8:57:30 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: clearsight
“The word of God and communism are hand in hand”

Yeah, if you are a thug teamster and your God is union domination, thuggery, and ignorance.

8 posted on 05/04/2005 8:57:54 AM PDT by AbeKrieger
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Jesus was a Communist. They'll be quoting Luke to the effect his disciples held all things in common and lived only to praise God.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
9 posted on 05/04/2005 8:59:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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This looks like "liberation theology" rehashed. It went nowhere before, and it will go nowhere now, either.

Thank God Benedict XVI is the new pope. It was largely thanks to him that these people were purged from the Catholic church in Latin America.


10 posted on 05/04/2005 8:59:30 AM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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For him this is doing “the real work” of Jesus. “It’s not pie in the sky when we die,” Marks told the World. “It’s how are we going to change things in the here and now.”

"My kingdom is not of this world."

It's interesting that he says that he is authentic because his religious agenda is to change civil society, while evil evangelicals don't want to change civil society, yet evangelicals should be challenged in the public sphere because they are trying to change civil society.

This guy's been smoking too much of that dialectic weed.

11 posted on 05/04/2005 9:00:09 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: clearsight
Noting that attendance at soup kitchens is “piling up,”

????

12 posted on 05/04/2005 9:01:40 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: wideawake
The devil can twist scripture to suit his purposes. John warns Christians that Satan's emmissaries will appear as angels of light and they will hide their true aims with beautiful words to seduce the faithful into temptation.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
13 posted on 05/04/2005 9:02:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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You gotta love this :)


14 posted on 05/04/2005 9:03:56 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: clearsight

The woman is a complete idiot. All the Christians and religous people who died from her wonderful Communists. If she thinks God wants that shes an idiot!


15 posted on 05/04/2005 9:05:19 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: RightWingAtheist
I'm stunned. Here we were all thinking those darned Christians intended to impose Old Testament law upon America and execute unbelievers. What happened?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
16 posted on 05/04/2005 9:05:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Sounds like more "Liberation Theology" but now it is not as trendy as it was in the 70s. So Marxists can write slogans like "Christ is reborn in the struggle of the poor and the oppressed" but it just has a hollow ring nowadays.

I remember when the American Jennifer Jean Casolo was arrested in El Salvador. She was there with "Christian Education Seminars" and the Policia de Hacienda raided her house and found over 2000 lbs of munitions and explosives. The U.S. Embassy was able to spring her in three weeks but she should have been hanged for the safe house she was running for the terrorists.

The communists use Christian sounding names and imagery but they don't "discover" Jesus.
17 posted on 05/04/2005 9:07:27 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: jbwbubba
There's one piece of good news in this: some Lefties appear to have warmed up to God. That's heretical compared with what passes for the thinking on the rest of the theophobic Left these days.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
18 posted on 05/04/2005 9:07:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: clearsight
“'The word of God and communism are hand in hand,'”

I know lots of Russians, Albanians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Poles, etc. who might say otherwise.

Dawes, a second-generation Methodist minister, draws inspiration from the circuit-rider preachers who traveled through small towns and rural areas to teach a social gospel.

No, they didn't.

19 posted on 05/04/2005 9:09:05 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: goldstategop
There's one piece of good news in this: some Lefties appear to have warmed up to God.

You don't really believe that do you?

I think they've taken a page from the Muslims. There's some word (Taqqawi?) that means a Muslim may tell any lie at all to a non-believer, in an effort to eventually eliminate the non-believer.

20 posted on 05/04/2005 9:14:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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