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Oklahoma City Bomber Nichols Says a 3rd Man Took Part in Plot
LA Times ^ | 5/4/05 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 05/03/2005 11:24:56 PM PDT by Crackingham

After a decade of silence, Terry L. Nichols, who was convicted in the Oklahoma City bombings, has accused a third man of being an accomplice who provided some of the explosives used to kill 168 people at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building 10 years ago. Nichols, in a letter written from his cell at the Supermax prison in Colorado, said Arkansas gun collector Roger Moore donated so-called binary explosives, made up of two components, to bomber Timothy J. McVeigh that were used in Oklahoma City, as well as additional bomb components that recently were found in Nichols' former home in Kansas.

The claim that a third man — in addition to McVeigh and Nichols — was involved in the plot comes as a California congressman has begun pressing for answers to lingering questions about what, until Sept. 11, 2001, had been the worst case of domestic terrorism in the United States.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, chairman of the investigative arm of the House Committee on International Relations, has been collecting new evidence in the bombing and said he would announce soon whether to open formal hearings into the April 19, 1995, tragedy. He believes Nichols' knowledge about other potential conspirators is central to his investigation, especially since the components found in March in a crawl space below Nichols' former home remained undetected for nearly a decade. The congressman said it was important to determine whether others were involved beyond Nichols and McVeigh, two Army pals who became antigovernment zealots.

"That this mass murder of Americans was accomplished by two disgruntled veterans acting alone seems to be the conclusion reached by those in authority," Rohrabacher said recently on the House floor, referring to the FBI's investigation of the bombing.

"However," Rohrabacher said, "there are some unsettling loose ends and unanswered questions."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: johndoe2; mcveigh; moore; murrahbldg; okcbombing; rogermoore; terrynichols; turass
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1 posted on 05/03/2005 11:24:57 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
Roger Moore

What's Terry Nicholls got against 007?

2 posted on 05/03/2005 11:30:35 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: Stonedog

Roger Moore, wasn't he the guy suspected of being an FBI informant?

My guess is that Moore and Nichols both will be dead if the government decide to reopen this case. I hope they do.


3 posted on 05/04/2005 12:05:35 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Americanexpat

This is Roger E. Moore, the Arkansas gun dealer that testified under the alias Robert Miller.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 12:20:36 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Stonedog
What about all the ATF that were there on that day ?

The formal response was they were there for an excercise but there is no documented exercise on that day at that building?

Why was there a bomb squad truck parked there that day?

The formal response was they stopped for coffee ?

What about the arab on the tapes walking through the building with McVey ?

5 posted on 05/04/2005 12:22:50 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: Crackingham

Does Moore look like the composite sketch of John Doe #2 (if I recall the aliases and pictures correctly?).


6 posted on 05/04/2005 12:25:01 AM PDT by LPStar
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To: Crackingham
"That this mass murder of Americans was accomplished by two disgruntled veterans acting alone seems to be the conclusion reached by those in authority," Rohrabacher said recently on the House floor, referring to the FBI's investigation of the bombing.

Klintoon didn't want the investigation to go further. He had what he wanted in Nichols and McVeigh -- a finger to point at the Michigan Militia, and beyond them at Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich.

7 posted on 05/04/2005 1:01:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Crackingham; OKCSubmariner
Ping to new developments.
8 posted on 05/04/2005 1:02:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

I remeber that, I wasn't sure about the informant. Guess that will give me something to research tomorrow.


9 posted on 05/04/2005 1:35:38 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Crackingham

I still wonder who that leg belonged to. Why hasn't Nichols answered that question? Has anyone asked him that question?


10 posted on 05/04/2005 1:38:15 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Crackingham
In his House floor speech April 19, the congressman suggested that Nichols held many of the answers for those who doubted he and McVeigh had acted alone. The congressman also wants to review government documents and 23 surveillance tapes of activity around the Murrah site on the morning of the bombing.

The tapes have not been released to the public, even though the trials are over and the FBI says its investigation is closed.

Why haven't the tapes been released? There is no excuse. What is the government trying to hide? This is why I don't trust them on this case. I bet that the tapes turn out to be "missing," "lost," or "misplaced."

11 posted on 05/04/2005 2:10:28 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Americanexpat

My guess is Moore sold them legal stuff and that they took it and used it for illegal purposes.


12 posted on 05/04/2005 2:13:36 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; Shermy; ...
OKC-911 CONNECTION ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.
13 posted on 05/04/2005 2:52:53 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Clinton would have been a one term president if not for Oklahoma City. It was perfect for him.


14 posted on 05/04/2005 3:11:02 AM PDT by Modok
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To: LPStar
Does Moore look like the composite sketch of John Doe #2

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Roger Moore

15 posted on 05/04/2005 3:15:13 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: america-rules
IMO, there's much that we don't know about OKC. And I believe that if only one plane had gone in to the twin towers, we'd still be being told that it was an accident.

Carolyn

16 posted on 05/04/2005 3:18:33 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: Crackingham

What possoble benefit to Michols would fessing up be? McVeigh went silently I suspect Nichols will remain so. I have no clue at all regarding their guilt or innocense or that of anyone else. As with all the mystereous airliner downings in the late 90's this too is a mystery that will remain unsolved, but which leaves nothing but questions in the minds of most folks.


17 posted on 05/04/2005 3:20:53 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Dustbunny
I still wonder who that leg belonged to.

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18 posted on 05/04/2005 3:28:01 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa
All those tragedies that occurred during Clinton the "pig"'s reign became suddenly silent. I hardly remember hearing about the first bombing of the Twin Towers where 800 people were injured and some were killed.

Did Clinton order Security changes for the nation?

Had Clinton looked at the big picture instead of hiding under his desk, maybe the Cole and 9-11 would have never happened. Not taking out Usama when the opportunity arose is and always will be unforgivable.

19 posted on 05/04/2005 3:37:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I think this would be more intriuging if he was asking Jayna Davis to interview him about secrets regarding the bombing


20 posted on 05/04/2005 4:21:36 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ovrtaxt

Still, this hardly vindicates the view that Arabs, Iraqis, or al-Qaeda were involved. Indeed, it takes us further away from any Middle East involvement.


21 posted on 05/04/2005 4:41:51 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS
Indeed, it takes us further away from any Middle East involvement.

Gee, it does, doesn't it? :)

22 posted on 05/04/2005 4:45:20 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Crackingham


23 posted on 05/04/2005 5:01:36 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: mewzilla

A government building, a bombing, an anti-American....Really doesn't take us away from the Usama and middle east mentality and MO. I was always sorry they executed him because maybe someday, just maybe, he'd tell us the secrets that he took to his grave.


24 posted on 05/04/2005 5:05:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
I was always sorry they executed him because maybe someday, just maybe, he'd tell us the secrets that he took to his grave.

Someone else knows what McVeigh knew.

25 posted on 05/04/2005 5:08:21 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

I'm sure. The dame that sat on the 9-11 committee shut down the OC bombing incident. Jamie something??


26 posted on 05/04/2005 5:40:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mewzilla
Someone else knows what McVeigh knew.

And I am convinced that they are hidden by and in the government.

27 posted on 05/04/2005 5:44:17 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Gorelick! What a name.


28 posted on 05/04/2005 5:47:25 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Ironic, huh!!


29 posted on 05/04/2005 6:09:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ovrtaxt

"Arkansas gun collector Roger Moore donated so-called binary explosives, made up of two components, to bomber Timothy J. McVeigh that were used in Oklahoma City, as well as additional bomb components that recently were found in Nichols' former home in Kansas."

Would someone please refresh my memory. What state was Bill Clinton born in, raised in, became governor in and left a trail of dead people who opposed him?


30 posted on 05/04/2005 6:10:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Quilla; Sacajaweau

It is a horribly disgusting thought... anyone licking anything on all Gore.


31 posted on 05/04/2005 6:37:18 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Grampa Dave

Oh Dave.....I just love it when you point something like this out to us. Ya still got it!!


32 posted on 05/04/2005 6:40:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: brityank
The archive memos probably wound up in some burglars pants.

We have been assuming that what Burger stole was tied to events just before 9-11. But if they were regarding OC and a tie to terrorism, then there was a BIG coverup.

33 posted on 05/04/2005 6:46:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Try that question, "Who was president when 'x' happened?" with liberals you know. It drives them up a wall when they are trying to blame us for something that happened during the Clintoon's reign of terror.


34 posted on 05/04/2005 7:01:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Sacajaweau
There's to much coincidence involved with the OKC bombing between the associations of Nichols and the Al Queida group Abu SAYYAF in the Philippines. Lots more than the fact that Nichols wife was a Filipino. See the following link for more: information http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=116

It seems to me the Government and FBI bent over backwards to make the Bombing look like a domestic terror act.

I never did trust anything that came out of the Reno/Klinton law enforcement SNAFU corps. Reno lied about Wacco, Elian Gonzales and many other things to cover for an inept department.
35 posted on 05/04/2005 7:10:29 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Crackingham

I know these sounds really far fetched, but I have to ask it…

Who is Karen Anderson?

Could she be the owner of that famous severed left leg?

I have an appointment with Dr. Torture the Dentist this a.m., so I’ll check back later.


36 posted on 05/04/2005 7:11:22 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 05/04/2005 7:20:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wita

Not really.

Nichols claims to have converted to Christianity while in custody. If so, revealing what he knows would be steps toward his confession.

Also, Nichols has a son and a wife. He may want to clear his name by doing the right thing in order for his son and wife to have a better life.


38 posted on 05/04/2005 7:47:21 AM PDT by job ("God is not dead nor doth He sleep")
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Karen Anderson was or is Roger Moore's girlfriend. She and Moore owned American Assault, the gun business that traveled to shows and sold exotic stuff. They met McVeigh at a Florida show. She also had ties to Strassmeir and Colbern, the chemist from Arizona who was questioned early in the investigation. Her list of guns stolen in that Moore robbery also contained a gun that Nichols had owned for quite a while, making her list of robbery items very suspect. These people testified at both the McVeigh and Nichols trials and gave very evasive testimony.


39 posted on 05/04/2005 7:50:00 AM PDT by GlockGrrl
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To: Crackingham

40 posted on 05/04/2005 7:52:43 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: GlockGrrl

Thank you.


41 posted on 05/04/2005 10:19:41 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Grampa Dave
What state was Bill Clinton born in, raised in, became governor in and left a trail of dead people who opposed him?

Also, Attorney General. Quite a few slimeball politicians have ridden this position to higher office.

42 posted on 05/04/2005 11:10:47 AM PDT by auboy
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the ping, ot!


43 posted on 05/04/2005 11:11:48 AM PDT by auboy
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To: gopwinsin04
To me,... this guy looks like a cross between a Filipino and a Mexican American?

Maybe, a T.V. 'CHIPS'...police heavy?

?

44 posted on 05/04/2005 8:30:57 PM PDT by maestro
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To: maestro
To me,... this guy looks like a cross between a Filipino and a Mexican American?


45 posted on 05/04/2005 8:37:52 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
Interesting.....

Yet,....To me,... this guy looks like a cross between a Filipino and a Mexican American?

Maybe, a T.V. 'CHIPS'...police heavy?

?

?.....maybe,...his 'brother'.....?

46 posted on 05/04/2005 8:50:16 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Colorado Buckeye

Nichols and McVeigh's defense attorneys never had access to these tapes. Not only the public is being shut out.

IMO withholding these tapes from defense council in violation of discovery motioins is a flagrant violation of law, and clear evidence of miscarriage of justice.


47 posted on 05/05/2005 8:24:24 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Colorado Buckeye

Nichols and McVeigh's defense attorneys never had access to these tapes. Not only the public is being shut out.

IMO withholding these tapes from defense council in violation of discovery motioins is a flagrant violation of law, and clear evidence of miscarriage of justice.


48 posted on 05/05/2005 8:24:25 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Colorado Buckeye

Nichols and McVeigh's defense attorneys never had access to these tapes. Not only the public is being shut out.

IMO withholding these tapes from defense council in violation of discovery motioins is a flagrant violation of law, and clear evidence of miscarriage of justice.


49 posted on 05/05/2005 8:24:27 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Colorado Buckeye

Nichols and McVeigh's defense attorneys never had access to these tapes. Not only the public is being shut out.

IMO withholding these tapes from defense council in violation of discovery motioins is a flagrant violation of law, and clear evidence of miscarriage of justice.


50 posted on 05/05/2005 8:24:27 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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