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Open letter warns of Blood & Revenge (Van Gogh Case)
expatica.com (nl) ^ | 5/3/05

Posted on 05/03/2005 10:59:10 PM PDT by abu afak

Open letter warns of blood and revenge

3 May 2005

AMSTERDAM — Mohammed B., the man arrested for the murder of Theo Van Gogh, wrote an "open letter to the Dutch people" before the attack warning they will pay in blood for the slaughter of millions of Muslims.

Public prosecutor Koos Plooy stressed in Rotterdam Court on Tuesday that the letter was no joke or an idle boast.

B. starts his letter full of praise for Allah and writes that God has instructed Muslims to "kill them", referring to "the non-believing people of the Netherlands".

He praised the 11 September terrorist attacks in the US and cursed the co-operation between the US and the Netherlands in "the fight for world dominion between belief and unbelief".

Referring to victims of what he sees as the US-led aggression in Muslim countries, the 27-year-old Dutch-Moroccan said that as "culprits of the death and torture of our brothers and sisters you must pay your debt with your own blood".

He warned that life will turn to hell and will only return to peace when the Dutch government abandons the murder and rape of Muslims.

"It would not be wise to trivialise the contents of this letter. Because the deep seriousness of this letter would not be understood, nor would the context of the enormous library that was carefully spread among suspects — full with radical-political literature — nor the manner and the moment in which this letter surfaced," prosecutor Plooy said.

He said the document was discovered when Mohammed B. became the first member of the Hofstad group to put his ideology into action. His target was Theo van Gogh, "an exponent" of the non-believers.

Van Gogh was subsequently shot and stabbed to death on an Amsterdam street last November.

The prosecutor said B. was also convened about the contents of the letter. e referred to it in his last will and testament, which was drawn up in case he was killed by police after attacking Van Gogh.

In his will, B. said the letter could have negative consequence for the "brothers and sisters" and they needed to decide at a meeting after his death whether to publish it or not.

A preliminary hearing against 12 alleged members of the suspected terror network Hofstad group was held in Rotterdam Court on Tuesday.

Mohammed B. was described as the leader of the group for the first time, but is not yet on trial for his role in the group. B.'s murder trial will start in July.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurabia; eurotrash; islam; jihadineurope; jihadinholland; koranimals; muslim; netherlands; religionofpieces; rop; trop; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 05/03/2005 10:59:11 PM PDT by abu afak
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To: abu afak
Ah yes, it's embrace The "Religion of Peace" or DIE YOU FILTHY INFIDEL!

Nice of the mohammedans to give us a choice, no?
2 posted on 05/03/2005 11:11:41 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (This tagline brought to you by Islam. Islam, only the best of the 12th century for you and yours.)
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To: abu afak; RS; Gondring; Kretek

you'll like this one, too, thanks abu.


3 posted on 05/03/2005 11:24:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: abu afak

I wonder if there is enough collective brain power left in Europe to finally realize what is happening.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 12:09:45 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (Let Me Die on My Feet in the Swamp, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"I wonder if there is enough collective brain power left in Europe to finally realize what is happening here."

Well maybe there is and that is why they go out of their way they protest US policies. Maybe they realize they have let far too many Muslims within their borders to ever control them. These countries are time bombs.

The question is do the people of the US realize that we have a similar problem and the Muslims organizations openly discuss destroying us.
5 posted on 05/04/2005 12:21:53 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I wonder if there is enough collective brain power left in Europe to finally realize what is happening.

I was speaking with a normal, middle class sort of Dutch fellow back in Fall 2003. He enthusiastically concurred that Islamist Muslims are a global threat and that militant jihadis ought to be killed, period.

I mean to say that he wasn't merely being polite, he was discussing the problem from his own point of view.

6 posted on 05/04/2005 12:51:21 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Americanexpat

You and I and most folks here know, now all We need to do is convince the government.
I came to the conclusion years ago that the US would some day become so "Balkanized" as to be ungovernable except by force. It seems closer now than ever before. Where does that leave anyone that just wants the America Our Grandfathers wanted Us to have? I suspect that, between a rock and a hard place, most politicians are only going to try to keep order, screw the Republic and the future. That doesn't give Me a lot of hope for what I leave My Grandson.
Seems like most politicians have more in common with each other than any of them have with Me.


7 posted on 05/04/2005 12:57:30 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (Let Me Die on My Feet in the Swamp, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: Americanexpat

"The question is do the people of the US realize that we have a similar problem and the Muslims organizations openly discuss destroying us."

Muslims know our laws better than we. At a zoning meeting last Monday, for the building of an Islamic center, the head of the Muslims told how they were kind loving people, then sat down and let his lawyer tell us all the laws that keep us from stopping them. We're being taken over little by little.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 1:09:34 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: Razz Barry

I guess your right. That is how the Muslims and the illegal immigrants will defeat us, through our own courts and politicians more concerned with votes than our own people.


9 posted on 05/04/2005 1:32:08 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Former Dodger; jan in Colorado; swordfish71; Bennett46; SaltyJoe; Salve Regina; ...

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P.R.O.P.* amuck in Amsterdam, der Nederlands!

(deranged in Danmark, nuts in Norge, ocksaa screwy im Sverige...)

When the evil forces of S.A.T.A.N. threaten!

(Socialism Anarchy Totalitarianism And Nihilism)

And mere human conservatism is not sufficient to rally the fainthearted to arms...

When all about you seems the gathering dark of a fearful tempest, ready to engulf ordinary defenses

Gentle reader, neither wet nor soil thy crimson nappies in hasty alarum, for


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10 posted on 05/04/2005 1:54:23 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: All

Islam versus Holland- Red Cresent Rising?
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11 posted on 05/04/2005 1:55:50 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: abu afak

And who was it that shot JR?


12 posted on 05/04/2005 1:56:16 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

I'll have what you're having!


13 posted on 05/04/2005 2:38:12 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; Fred Nerks; swordfish71; All

Probably one of the finer pings I've ever seen!

I meet lots of tourists every day, it's the nature of my job, and I talk with them about many different subjects, NYC, the Staue of Liberty and Ellis Island being most popular. However, I have spoken to some about PROP in their homelands and many are puzzled, confused and angry about what is going on.

So, non-PROP people of Eurabia: change things, you can still outvote the incoming tide, get rid of the sympathetic sell-outs and take back your countries.

These are NOT the jack-booted Nazi thugs of 60+ years ago - YET! Stand up for yourselves and stop the scourge before it swarms over you.

Please feel free to forward this message to anyone who might listen.


14 posted on 05/04/2005 4:07:15 AM PDT by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: abu afak

Put him to the sword on TV, and then Holland should deport the rest of the jihadists to the shores of Antarctica.


15 posted on 05/04/2005 4:45:21 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Fred Nerks

Note that this type of threat is a very different one from the organized networks. The intercepts and all don't help against these home-grown loners who just decide to make a try at amateur night.

There's not a simple solution.


16 posted on 05/04/2005 4:51:06 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Gondring
The intercepts and all don't help against these home-grown loners who just decide to make a try at amateur night.

We are dealing with the Borg. This killer was a drone not a loner.

17 posted on 05/04/2005 5:06:23 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Stentor

Perhaps that's a better analogy, but his ties to Hofstad were such that I don't think the specifics of his attack were masterminded from above--rather just a hatred was cultivated and he operated independently in the details. My point is that we must identify the subtleties of how these enemies operate, not assume they are monolithic.


18 posted on 05/04/2005 5:14:01 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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19 posted on 05/04/2005 5:16:10 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: Americanexpat

Yeah. By the way, did anyone see hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the street protesting the Van Gogh murder?


20 posted on 05/04/2005 5:20:25 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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