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Copy-and-Paste Reveals Classified U.S. Documents (Slashdot posts link to classified info)
Slashdot ^ | 5/1 | CmdrTaco

Posted on 05/01/2005 8:24:11 AM PDT by Phsstpok

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday May 01, @09:43AM from the hate-when-that-happens dept.

cyclop writes "In March, U.S. troops in Iraq shot to death Nicola Calipari, the Italian intelligence agent that rescued the kidnapped journalist Giuliana Sgrena. U.S. commission on the incident produced a report which public version was censored for more than one third. Now Italian press is reporting that all confidential information in the report is available to the public, just by copying "hidden" text from the PDF and pasting it in a word processor (Italian). The uncensored report can now be directly downloaded (evil .DOC format, sorry)"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calipari; classified; giulianasgrena; iraq; italy
They include the links. In a discussion of what was redacted and since revealed someone laid out what was deemed classified:

Why is the government keeping that information secret

A vdiff between the censored and unmasked versions suggests that much of what was redacted is operational details, such as:

It names the soldiers involved and details the specific actions taken by those soldiers. It names the soldier who killed Calipari.

It briefly describes U.S. Embassy procedures for transporting VIPs along Route Irish and in general.

It details movement of U.S. and Italian Embassy personnel.

It describes possible future procedures and configurations for checkpoints.

In other words it has a lot of information of potential use to an insurgent mission planner and a lot that is nobody's business.

I'm beginning to really dislike leftists, particularly the Italian journalist ones.

NOTE TO ADMIN MOD: if you consider this "loose lips" please pull.

1 posted on 05/01/2005 8:24:12 AM PDT by Phsstpok
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To: Phsstpok
Dislike the leftist media??? This has very little to do with a leftist media. The fault is with inept security procedures. It sounds like they revised PDF (which is versioned and contains all modifications making redacting pointless as people can bring up the unredacted version). These agencies should be horse-whipped for having such lax procedures to allow this to happen!
2 posted on 05/01/2005 8:31:15 AM PDT by al_again
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To: Phsstpok

this is already all over the itallian press and the blogosphere.. i dont think loose lips is even an issue now.

I am concerned about soldiers who will no doubt be targeted now.

Also, this is what happens when you use programs like MS word which keeps track of almost every edit to the file in the file. God know what PDF program was used.

There really should be a lesson learned from this.


3 posted on 05/01/2005 8:33:36 AM PDT by minus_273
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To: al_again

the same thing occured once for me, while using adobe's pdf-to-html conversion tool on a pdf document on the US Trustee's site for documents in re: Enron.


4 posted on 05/01/2005 8:36:32 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: minus_273

I am at the bottom of the barrel in terms of computer literacy ...but it seems to me the redacted copy should have been turned into a hard copy and that could then be scanned and released


5 posted on 05/01/2005 8:38:26 AM PDT by woofie (I am so not kidding.)
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To: Phsstpok
Interesting post!

The thing about this kind of "leak" of classified information is that you never know if it is really part of a sophisticated disinformation campaign, ie., meant to be "decoded" amd leaked by scumbags.

6 posted on 05/01/2005 8:41:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: woofie

> it seems to me the redacted copy should have been turned into a hard copy and that could then be scanned and released

That would ahve been the way to go. Print it out, MAgic-Marker the naughty bits, feed it back into a scanner/photocopier and turn into PDF. Takes about 1 minute (got a photocopier at work that will scan, PDF and email... it ain't that hard). Probably no longer than doing it all - ineffectively - electronically.


7 posted on 05/01/2005 8:44:45 AM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: al_again
These agencies should be horse-whipped for having such lax procedures to allow this to happen!

Maybe the people doing it don't get that, and did it without knowing it. The government is like that. They don't have that many high skilled people.

A consulting opportunity for you.

8 posted on 05/01/2005 8:49:14 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: orionblamblam

in the 1980's I received mant magic-marker-redacted USG docs pertaining to agent orange.....I found that by lightening the photocopier darkness I could as often as not read what was behind the magic marker.....this worked on even multi-generational photocopies......the image behind the magic-marker is always darker than the magic-marker.....so lightening to the point of "thinning" the redaction revealed the underlying type :)


9 posted on 05/01/2005 8:59:34 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

the image behind the magic-marker is always darker than the magic-marker

I could have written that better, such as:

the image behind the magic-marker is always *in addition to* the magic-marker.....so lightening to the point of "thinning" the redaction revealed the underlying type :)


10 posted on 05/01/2005 9:03:26 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

That is why the copy that was released(with the redacting) should have been printed out, then scanned back in, and then they should have released the scan. No chance to play the copier game. Either that, or use the software correctly to begin with.


11 posted on 05/01/2005 9:04:55 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: Phsstpok
Exact grid locations of various assets.

you've GOT to be kidding me... EXACT grids NEVER need to be released other than on a NEED TO KNOW basis let alone put into a report. just damn...

12 posted on 05/01/2005 9:33:28 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: minus_273; al_again
Never send any Microsoft word document until you
1) have saved it as a .rtf (rich text file) document
2) take this .rtf file and save it as a word .doc document and tehn send it.

But it is better to send it as a .rtf file and not as a .doc file. Furthermore compare the sizes of the .rtf and the .doc files
13 posted on 05/01/2005 9:56:05 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: al_again
Yup.

This problem with redacted PDF files isn't even new. It's happened in several fairly high-profile cases over the past year or so. THere are ways of doing this securely that weren't followed.

14 posted on 05/01/2005 10:18:18 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
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To: Phsstpok

There is some one in the DOD who violated the law, declassifying reports that are classified. I hope that person will be fired and be challenged at the court.


15 posted on 05/01/2005 10:59:38 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Phsstpok

Nevermind, I didn't read the whole thing first...


16 posted on 05/01/2005 11:01:23 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz
Nevermind, I didn't read the whole thing first...

Emily? Emily Litella? Is that you?

Believe me. I know how you feel. ;^>

17 posted on 05/01/2005 11:08:56 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: AdmSmith

Better still, never, ever use any microsoft products at all.


18 posted on 05/01/2005 12:19:47 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: AdmSmith
Re: Microsoft products.

I was once involved in a project where a bunch of firms submitted highly confidential data to an outside (highly paid) attorney who was hired to combine the data for a public report and then destroy the confidential data. When I got the final report as an MS Word file, it showed some of the data in graphic form. I double-clicked on the graph and the software opened an Excel spreadsheet containing all the confidential data. I notified the attorney of the breach, and he immediately "recalled" the document with instructions to all recipients not to open it because it contained a nasty virus. LOL. Thanks for the confidential information, Bill Gates.

19 posted on 05/01/2005 12:37:02 PM PDT by Sarastro
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