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Boeing P-8A MMA Aircraft Progresses toward Design Phase (P-3c Replacement)
Boeing ^ | April 28, 2005 | Boeing

Posted on 04/29/2005 10:37:39 PM PDT by Righty_McRight

St. Louis, April 28, 2005 – The U.S. Navy's P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) program has successfully completed its second major review since contract award and received approval from the technical review board (TRB) to proceed toward the design phase.

"The MMA team was extremely well prepared," said Stu Young, chairman of the System Functional Review (SFR) review board and technical director for the Naval Air Warfare Center Training Systems division. "The TRB had no reservations about general preparedness to proceed to preliminary design. This team is setting the standard by which others should be judged. Their progress since award is remarkable."

An integrated Navy-Boeing [NYSE: BA] team conducted an SFR of the aircraft from April 5 to7 in Seattle during which a review board assessed system requirements and functional performance. "The TRB determined that all requirements and performance allocations are defined and consistent with cost, schedule and risk constraints," said Tony Parasida, Boeing vice president for maritime systems. A preliminary design review is scheduled for September 2005.

"We have created an environment in which people can excel," said Capt. Steve Eastburg, Naval Air Systems' Maritime Surveillance Aircraft program manager. "I am extremely proud of our team and the progress we've made so far."

The P-8A is the Navy's replacement platform for the P-3C. Its primary mission is to provide persistent anti-submarine warfare (ASW). In addition, the P-8A MMA will contribute to anti-surface warfare (ASuW) and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) warfighting capabilities, as defined in the Sea Shield and FORCEnet elements of the Navy's Sea Power 21 program.

The Boeing-led industry team, which includes CFM International, Northrop Grumman [NYSE: NOC], Raytheon [NYSE: RTN] and Smiths Aerospace [LSE: SMIN.L], will produce five test aircraft during the program's system development and demonstration phase. The Navy plans to purchase up to 108 aircraft to replace its aging fleet of P-3 aircraft.

A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis,Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $30.5 billion business. It provides network-centric system solutions to its global military, government, and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer and a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in sustainment solutions and launch services.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: asuw; asw; boeing; ids; isr; miltech; p8a; usnavy

The Boeing 737 MMA is the U.S. Navy's choice to replace its fleet of P-3 aircraft. The Navy intends to purchase 108 of the new aircraft.
1 posted on 04/29/2005 10:37:40 PM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: Righty_McRight

Good-looking plane. What is its purpose? To hunt Chinese Kilos?

I don't think there is much of a threat to warrent the purchase of this plane.


2 posted on 04/29/2005 10:41:48 PM PDT by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: Righty_McRight
They will be left at home while the Reserves old turboprop P-3's complete the missions that this aircraft is not able to accomplish.
3 posted on 04/29/2005 10:42:09 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
The purpose of the aircraft, besides the obvious "Sub Hunter" duties it also performs

Long Range Patrol, Command and Control, Communications, Mine laying, Interdiction, Search and Rescue, it is a fair weapons platform and can be wired to carry about anything the Navy has in it's Arsenal, the P-3 is cheaper than a Lear for ferrying around the Brass, and you know they fly in Hurricanes as well, (the P-3, not the P-8).

I would love to see this P-8 at 50 x 150, better yet loiter 1.
4 posted on 04/29/2005 10:53:19 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Righty_McRight

So how does a 737 manage to land on a carrier?


5 posted on 04/29/2005 11:01:24 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: TexasTransplant

I'm all ears. What kind of missions?


6 posted on 04/29/2005 11:03:32 PM PDT by skeptoid (Ya can't-a fool-a me......dare is-a no sanity clause.)
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To: Oblongata

Same way a P-3 does...not at all.


7 posted on 04/29/2005 11:05:42 PM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: TexasTransplant

>I would love to see this P-8 at 50 x 150, better yet loiter 1.<

You're obviously P-3 savvy. I'm not.
What is 50 x 150?
What is loiter one?
Why is P-3 better?

Thanks in advance.


8 posted on 04/29/2005 11:06:34 PM PDT by skeptoid (Ya can't-a fool-a me......dare is-a no sanity clause.)
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To: Oblongata

Not all Naval air assets operate from aircraft carriers.

This thing has very long legs and can operate from coastal air fields (like a P-3).


9 posted on 04/29/2005 11:07:53 PM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: Oblongata

Very carefully.


10 posted on 04/29/2005 11:08:55 PM PDT by Petruchio (... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. ...)
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To: NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
ood-looking plane. What is its purpose? To hunt Chinese Kilos?

The time will come when the US has a conflict with a country that has a submarine fleet. The greatest threats to an aircraft carrier battle group are cruise missiles and submarines. As a submariner, I would not overestimate the defenses of a carrier battle group. Torpedoes are a much more capable weapons than most people realize and they have a large explosive yield (as well as taking up useful rack space :) ). If I was ever stationed on an aircraft carrier I would constantly be worrying about potential enemy submarines. Any technology that helps protect our carrier fleet is welcome!

11 posted on 04/29/2005 11:09:34 PM PDT by burzum
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To: burzum

U.S. submarines routinely get target solutions on every single ship in a U.S. Carrier battle group without being dtected.


12 posted on 04/29/2005 11:12:12 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: burzum

"As a submariner, I would not overestimate the defenses of a carrier battle group. Torpedoes are a much more capable weapons than most people realize and they have a large explosive yield (as well as taking up useful rack space :) ). If I was ever stationed on an aircraft carrier I would constantly be worrying about potential enemy submarines."

I was on a carrier. A newer one, actually.

On more than one occasion a friendly sub sent us close up pictures of the name on our stern, "Theodore Roosevelt".

Submarines are the single most lethal threat to our carriers.


13 posted on 04/29/2005 11:16:28 PM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: Oblongata

Since P-3 Orions don't land on carriers... it's not likely that its replacement would either.


14 posted on 04/29/2005 11:20:51 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: burzum

Roger that.

It's probable that we have the edge now, though that edge is never really tested until true combat. But we must never assume that we have the edge.

I wouldn't want to be on a hostile airplane or a hostile submarine approaching a carrier battle group. It sees important that we keep it that way.


15 posted on 04/29/2005 11:27:31 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: ryan71
Here's an image of what a Mk 48 can do:

There are similar weapons throughout the world with the open Russian arms market.

16 posted on 04/29/2005 11:33:00 PM PDT by burzum
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To: burzum

ping


17 posted on 04/30/2005 12:06:48 AM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Lokibob

I thought ping was more appropiate than bump. lol


18 posted on 04/30/2005 12:07:45 AM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: burzum

I would agree with you, but were in a time when the Navy has other pressing needs than some non-existant threat that **may** one day materialize. They've dramatically cut the number of DD's they intended to purchase and we need them more than these good-looking planes.

Sorry, we have to prioritize here and this plane doesn't cut the mustard.


19 posted on 04/30/2005 9:40:29 AM PDT by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: skeptoid

>>> 50x150 <<<<

Flying at 50 ft. above the waves at 150kt. I would guess. Most of the time when P-3s are on station they fly at 200 ft. 200kt. And boy! when they crank her around at 60 degrees
bank to come down the other side of a ship. you’d swear that wingtip going to be making a wake!

>>>> What is loiter one <<<<

To shut down a engine to save fuel. P-3s routinely shut down 2 on lonnng missions.

>>> Why is P-3 better? <<<<
Short answer:
It just is!

Boeing wins U.S. Navy airplane deal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1153422/posts?page=89#89


20 posted on 04/30/2005 12:40:50 PM PDT by quietolong
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