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Covering the Map of the World — The Half-Century Legacy of the Yalta Conference, Part 2
Future for Freedom Foundation ^ | March 1995 | Richard M. Ebeling

Posted on 04/29/2005 4:24:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

When Roosevelt was preparing to meet Stalin for the first time at the Teheran Conference in November 1943, William C. Bullett, former U. S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union, tried to explain the true brutal nature of Stalin and the Soviet regime to FDR. Roosevelt replied:

Bill, I don't dispute your facts. They are accurate. I don't dispute the logic of your reasoning. I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of man. Harry [Hopkins, Roosevelt's confidant and personal envoy to Stalin] says he's not and that he doesn't want anything but security for his country, and I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige — he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace.

When Bullett pressed his fears and doubts about any good outcomes from a mindless altruism towards Stalin, FDR closed the discussion by saying, "It's my responsibility and not yours; and I'm going to play my hunch."

This was the frame of mind with which Franklin Roosevelt was now negotiating with Stalin and Churchill at Yalta. It was with this good feeling towards "Uncle Joe" Stalin — Roosevelt's and Churchill's name of endearment for the mass murderer of millions — that FDR could speak that night at this Big Three banquet about an atmosphere of a "family" around that table, dedicated to the giving to "every man, woman and child on this earth the possibility of security and well-being." Never in modern history was there a darker surrealism in the use of words.

In early 1942, FDR wrote to Churchill:

I know you will not mind my being brutally frank when I tell you that I think I can personally handle Stalin better than either your Foreign Office or my State Department. Stalin hates the guts of all your top people. He thinks he likes me better, and I hope he will continue to do so.

And the fact that Stalin was a dictator was viewed by FDR as an advantage in cutting any deals. "What helps a lot," Roosevelt told one of his assistants, "is that Stalin is the only man I have to convince. Joe doesn't worry about a Congress or a Parliament. He's the whole works."

At their first meeting at the Teheran Conference in November 1943, Roosevelt did everything in his power to endear himself to "Uncle Joe," as FDR and Churchill affectionately called Stalin. At a private meeting without Churchill's presence, Roosevelt told Stalin that he could do anything he wanted in Poland and the Baltic Republics. The transcript recounts that "jokingly" FDR said "that when the Soviet armies re-occupied [Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania], he did not intend to go to war with the Soviet Union over this point." Besides, if an election were held in these three countries, Roosevelt was "personally confident that the people would vote to join the Soviet Union." However, FDR did not press the issue of having any such free elections.

On the Polish question, Roosevelt said that he agreed with Stalin that the eastern part of Poland should be incorporated into the Soviet Union and that German territory to the west should be transferred to Poland. However, FDR explained to Stalin that the next presidential election was only a year away, and he could not make any public declarations on these issues. There were six or seven million Poles in America and "as a practical man [he] didn't want to lose their votes."

Roosevelt's cynicism on transferring peoples and lands through secret deals between himself and Stalin was complete. According to Averell Harriman, who was U. S. ambassador to the Soviet Union during part of the war, "On one occasion in May [1944] the president had told me that he didn't care whether the countries bordering Russia became communized."

To amuse Stalin and curry favor with him, FDR even sank to ridiculing Churchill in front of the Red Czar. During the Teheran meeting, Roosevelt later said:

I began to tease Churchill about his Britishness, about John Bull, about his cigars, about his habits. It began to register with Stalin. Winston got red and scowled. . . . I kept it up until Stalin was laughing with me. . . . From that time on our relations were personal.. . . The ice was broken and we talked like men and brothers.

In 1940, when Congressman Martin Dies told Roosevelt of his concerns about possible Soviet agents in prominent positions in the federal government, FDR replied: "I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists." As for the Soviet Union, FDR told Congressman Dies: "I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. . . . While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer with Russia under Communism than under the Czars. Stalin is a great leader, and although I deplore some of his methods, it is the only way he can safeguard his government." When FDR spoke these words in 1940, Stalin was in a tacit alliance with Hitler under the terms of the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939 .

In September 1943, two months before his meeting with Stalin at Teheran, FDR spent an hour and a half with Archbishop (later Cardinal) Francis Spellman. In Summit at Teheran: The Untold Story (1985), historian Keith Eubank explains:

When he had talked with Cardinal Spellman on September 3, Roosevelt did not conceal his thoughts about Stalin and Eastern Europe. Stalin would receive Finland, the Baltic States, the eastern half of Poland, and Bessarabia [all the lands Stalin had coveted under his Pact with Hitler]. There was no point in opposing "these desires of Stalin, because he had the power to get them anyhow. So better give them gracefully." Moreover, the population of eastern Poland "wants to become Russian." He expected eastern Europe to come under some form of Russian protectorate.

Roosevelt thought the Russians would get about forty percent of the capitalist economy in Europe. The job of the Europeans was to accept this and, over ten or twenty years, influence the Russians to be less barbaric.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: baltics; china; estonia; finland; geopolitics; history; japan; latvia; lithuania; northeastasia; poland; romania; yalta

1 posted on 04/29/2005 4:24:25 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Grzegorz 246; Lukasz; lizol

bumping


2 posted on 04/29/2005 5:04:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And there are still plenty of Lefties that vehemently deny that McCarthy was justified in his attempts to awaken America.

Bump.


3 posted on 04/29/2005 5:11:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I began to tease Churchill about his Britishness, about John Bull, about his cigars, about his habits. It began to register with Stalin. Winston got red and scowled. . . . I kept it up until Stalin was laughing with me

Some statesman. This must be another reason why the left loves him. They can relate to his sophomoric behavior.

4 posted on 04/29/2005 5:13:39 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Did somebody say:


5 posted on 04/29/2005 5:14:33 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Great post, when I read “Question of Honor”, I was really pissed off by these details because political perfidy and hypocrisy was far over the top here.

Bill, I don't dispute your facts. They are accurate. I don't dispute the logic of your reasoning. I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of man. Harry [Hopkins, Roosevelt's confidant and personal envoy to Stalin] says he's not and that he doesn't want anything but security for his country, and I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige — he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace.

FDR was really out of mind, before and during WWII Stalin discredit himself so many times, only an idiot could trust him. He had well prepared reports and he ignored everything.

The ice was broken and we talked like men and brothers.

Several of the best friends I have are Communists.


How honest…

Moreover, the population of eastern Poland "wants to become Russian."

ha ha ha what a bastard
6 posted on 04/30/2005 2:24:35 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Ingtar

Check out, this article, that was exacly what I was tried to explain you before.


7 posted on 04/30/2005 2:28:19 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: goldensky; Freebird Forever; Idisarthur; TapTheSource; TFine80; j23; Lijahsbubbe; conshack; ...
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8 posted on 04/30/2005 2:29:04 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I don't use to cry that we were betrayed and I generally don't like any victimization. The only lessons for Poles are - spend more money on military, - in international relations count only on yourself. These lessons unfortunately have never been learned.

This part is very interesting.

" "I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists." As for the Soviet Union, FDR told Congressman Dies: "I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. . . . While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer with Russia under Communism than under the Czars. Stalin is a great leader, and although I deplore some of his methods, it is the only way he can safeguard his government." When FDR spoke these words in 1940, Stalin was in a tacit alliance with Hitler under the terms of the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939. "

If you replace Stalin and Communism by Putin and Putinism, Hitler by China or Iran etc. you will get what unfortunately many politicians in "the West" think about Russia and colonel Putin.
Before anyone start screaming about my Russophobia I admit that I don't feel too much love for Russians and especially for Russian state, but there isn't anyone more interested in free, democratic and friendly Russia than Poles and other Central and Eastern European nations. Some people support Putin, because they don't believe that Russian society is able to have better politicians and this is the real Russophobia in my opinion.
9 posted on 04/30/2005 5:23:00 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Uh-huh.

That was old Frank, to a "tee."


10 posted on 04/30/2005 5:45:55 AM PDT by franksolich (actively tormenting DUmmies for a long time now)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Its truly sad, in retrospect, to contemplate just how much damage this clown did to this country and the world.


11 posted on 04/30/2005 6:06:10 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Lukasz; Grzegorz 246; lizol; DoctorMichael; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; ...

THE ROOSEVELT MYTH
John T. Flynn
Fox and Wilkes, [1948] 1998, xxiv + 437 pgs.

Excellent book available at Amazon with an intro by a professor-emeritus of my alma mater. Exposes FDR's complete blind conceit and black deceit.

And of course we must bear in mind who channels Eleanor.


12 posted on 04/30/2005 6:17:45 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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