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Hijackers 'booked tickets at library'
Herald Sun ^ | 29apr05 | correspondents in Washington

Posted on 04/29/2005 10:21:18 AM PDT by Calpernia

THE Bush administration revealed today that some of the September 11, 2001, hijackers booked their tickets on the internet using a computer in a college library in New Jersey.

The disclosure by Ken Wainstein, US attorney for the District of Columbia in testimony to the House of Representatives subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security, was intended to bolster the government's argument that Congress should renew a law allowing it to seize library and bookstore records.

"Investigators tracing the activities of the hijackers determined that, on four occasions in August of 2001, individuals using internet accounts registered to Nawaf Al Hazmi and Khalid Al Mihdar - 9/11 hijackers - used public access computers in the library of a state college in New Jersey," Mr Wainstein said.

He testified that computers in the library were used to review and order airline tickets on an internet travel reservations site.

Al Hazmi and Al Mihdar were hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon on September 11. Their last documented visit to the library occurred 12 days before the attack when a person using Al Hazmi's account used the library's computer to review the reservations, Mr Wainstein said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2001; 911; 911hijackers; flight77; hijackers; jihadinamerica; khalidalmihdar; khalidalmihdhar; library; nawafalhazmi; newjersey; nj; september11; statecollege; wot
9/11 hijackers used public libraries

Terrorists used public libraries for Internet access to check airline reservations prior to the September 11 attacks, a federal attorney yesterday told the House panel looking into renewing the USA Patriot Act.

Kenneth L. Wainstein, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, told the House Judiciary subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security oversight that investigators traced some of the hijackers' activities on four separate occasions in August 2001.

Internet accounts registered to Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar were accessed from a state college library in New Jersey. The two men were on the American Airlines Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.

"The computers in the library were used to review and order airline tickets on an Internet travel reservations site," Mr. Wainstein said. "The last documented visit to the library occurred on August 30, 2001. On that occasion, records indicate that a person using Alhazmi's account used the library's computer to review September 11 reservations that had been previously booked."

Investigators also discovered that three hijackers on the planes that hit the World Trade Center visited the Delray Beach, Fla., public library in July 2001 and asked to use the library's computers to access the Internet.

Mr. Wainstein said witnesses identified the men as Wail M. Alshehri and Waleed M. Alshehri, who were aboard American Airlines Flight 11 that crashed into the North Tower, and Marwan Al-Shehhi, the man who took control of United Airlines Flight 175 that crashed into the South Tower.

The news surprised lawmakers, who warned that eliminating the government's ability to investigate activities of suspected terrorists at libraries will leave the nation vulnerable to another attack.

"We put Americans' lives at risk if we foolishly provide sanctuaries -- even in our public libraries -- for terrorists to operate," said Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin Republican and Judiciary Committee chairman.

Yesterday's oversight hearing to review Section 215 of the Patriot Act -- which allows the seizure of business and library records to investigate terrorists -- is one of several being held throughout April and May by Judiciary Committee subcommittees on provisions of the act that expire Dec. 31.

Privacy advocates and civil libertarians say Section 215 is the most contentious aspect of the law passed by Congress in the aftermath of September 11.

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales told the committee that Section 215 has been used 35 times, but that it has not been used to obtain library records because they have been volunteered without the special subpoenas.

Gregory Nojeim, chief legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, told the panel that the provision is overly broad and needs congressional checks and judicial oversight to ensure it is not being abused to spy on Americans.

"With these broad new powers, the government can easily obtain records pertaining to Americans who have nothing to do with terrorism, so long as the records are sought for, or are allegedly relevant to one of these investigations," Mr. Nojeim said.

1 posted on 04/29/2005 10:21:19 AM PDT by Calpernia
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ping


2 posted on 04/29/2005 10:21:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Not surprised.

Curious though, what college library in NJ did they use to book their tickets?


3 posted on 04/29/2005 10:24:32 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Calpernia

Which state college? Rutgers? Newark campus?


4 posted on 04/29/2005 10:25:36 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: nmh; samtheman

I'm guessing Rutgers too Sam.

Remember, the copy machines they tested there during the anthrax investigation.

And most of the hijackers got their IDs in New Brunswick.


5 posted on 04/29/2005 10:27:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I'm sure the libraries would voluntarily cooperate in such cases. I don't however like the idea of giving goverment the power to force their way in.


6 posted on 04/29/2005 10:28:07 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Fine. Let's just close all the Public Libraries down. Security measure, don'tcha know?


7 posted on 04/29/2005 10:30:03 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Calpernia

I am back in school at a leading Lib science program.

In addition to faculty and most students blaming the President for everything you can possibly think of, including 9/11, they all are against the Patriot Act and any other law they think impacts our First Amendment rights.

I think I'll copy this article and post it next to the 'Bush or chimp?' poster that one of the faculty members has posted in the hallway.


8 posted on 04/29/2005 10:33:21 AM PDT by tarzantheapeman (Kerry had a hangnail yesterday - it's seared, seared in his memory.)
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To: Calpernia
Big deal. Ordering airline tickets would not have raised anyone's eyebrows on or before 9/10/2001.

To use this as justification for seizing library records now is spurious.

Are citizens reading habits REALLY the key element to determining if a presumed 'terror cell' is going to strike. I would find it highly unlikely Abdul would be checking out 'How to Blow Up Stuff' from his local library.

On the other hand, if a Hillary administration thinks my conservative ideas are dangerous, and cross checks my reading habits, they could effectively witch hunt.

Never give a friendly government tools you would fear from an unfriendly one.

9 posted on 04/29/2005 10:41:51 AM PDT by Diplomacy.308 (Often, talking is a waste of breath. Sometimes diplomacy requires harsh action.)
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To: tarzantheapeman
The significance of this is?

It boosts the Patriot Act how?

There are many other places where tickets could be booked on-line.

10 posted on 04/29/2005 10:43:49 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Diplomacy.308

Welcome to FR.


11 posted on 04/29/2005 10:44:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Diplomacy.308
I would find it highly unlikely Abdul would be checking out 'How to Blow Up Stuff' from his local library.

Just as I would find it highly unlikely Abdul would be telling his flight school instructor that he didn't need to learn how to land.

But it happened.

You see, Abdul doesn't think like you or I.

Never has.

12 posted on 04/29/2005 10:44:50 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Diplomacy.308
I would find it highly unlikely Abdul would be checking out 'How to Blow Up Stuff' from his local library.

Oh - my guess would be quite the opposite. Internet access is free to anyone who can walk in and produce an ID (fake ones included).

13 posted on 04/29/2005 10:48:28 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: glorgau
You're "sure the libraries would voluntarily cooperate in such cases"?,

If you're not being sarcastic, you're being clueless!

14 posted on 04/29/2005 10:49:16 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Calpernia

And Newark was the home of the blind sheik.


15 posted on 04/29/2005 10:51:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I thought that was Jersey City.


16 posted on 04/29/2005 10:54:16 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Doe Eyes
There are many other places where tickets could be booked on-line.

Exactly. For example many copy centers provide internet access.

Perhaps the records of any user at wireless internet cafes should also be seized too.

Oh wait, they already are...

17 posted on 04/29/2005 10:55:36 AM PDT by Diplomacy.308 (Often, talking is a waste of breath. Sometimes diplomacy requires harsh action.)
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To: samtheman
The blind sheik's mosque was in Jersey City in a building across the street from a U.S. Immigration Office.
18 posted on 04/29/2005 10:56:38 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

Why not? Easier to welcome all his buddies.


19 posted on 04/29/2005 10:59:33 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Calpernia

We can deduce that this is the only explaination for why they were there. They certainly weren't there to curl up with a good book.


20 posted on 04/29/2005 11:01:33 AM PDT by Gava
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To: Doe Eyes
The safest place to plan terrorist activity is within the USA. It's a violation of their rights to try stop them.
Strange country we live in. If we don't take the temporary
steps needed to protect our freedoms and secure the nation, we will wind up loosing both in the future. Criminals should not have rights. They forfeit them when they break the law.
21 posted on 04/29/2005 11:33:44 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Two words for those who think protecting civil liberties is a waste of time:

President Hillary


22 posted on 04/29/2005 12:17:19 PM PDT by Majic (Skepticism requires an open mind, cynicism requires the opposite.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Or, we could DEPORT the moon-worshipping FREAKS and keep our freedom.

Or do you like defending your own cage?


23 posted on 04/29/2005 12:19:40 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Majic

That's a strong argument......


24 posted on 04/29/2005 1:14:12 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Calpernia

Bump


25 posted on 04/29/2005 1:38:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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Ping


26 posted on 04/29/2005 1:41:52 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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To: Calpernia
You mean it wasn't about the 911 terrorists dating librarians?

Well, just heck and darn that!

27 posted on 04/29/2005 1:47:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Calpernia

Some of these guys had Virginia driver's licenses. Why was New Jersey issuing VA documents?


28 posted on 04/29/2005 1:48:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nathan Zachary

Have to prove they broke the law first. Then there is malicious intent.


29 posted on 04/29/2005 1:56:40 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: muawiyah

>>>Some of these guys had Virginia driver's licenses. Why was New Jersey issuing VA documents?

I don't know what the breakdown is. The New Brunswick officer said most of the hijackers got their fake IDs in New Brunswick.

If that statement meant the ones that 'didn't' have have VA IDs or if that meant that New Brunswick issued various fake IDs from other states....I don't know.


30 posted on 04/29/2005 2:41:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary
If we don't take the temporary steps needed to protect our freedoms and secure the nation, we will wind up loosing both in the future.

In the context of this specific event (terrorist booking flights at a library) what temporary steps do you see fit?

31 posted on 04/29/2005 2:53:11 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Calpernia; muawiyah
Between the 19 of the 9/11 hijackers, they had seventy something driver's licenses. So most probably had both NJ & VA IDs along with many others. I guess their MO was to use the NJ IDs while in NJ.

God save us from those politicians still opposing the toughening of driver's license requirements.

32 posted on 04/29/2005 3:10:59 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Calpernia

Two of the terrorist resided on William Patterson College.


33 posted on 04/29/2005 3:13:02 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Calpernia

Two of the terrorist resided on William Patterson College.


34 posted on 04/29/2005 3:14:26 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: mware

Were they the same ones that had an apartment in Patterson?


35 posted on 04/29/2005 3:36:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I can not be sure, but I believe they are the ones that had the apartment in Patterson.


36 posted on 04/29/2005 3:46:52 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Calpernia

smart bastards..... Now everybody will have to suffer:

"Congress should renew a law allowing it to seize library and bookstore records "


37 posted on 04/29/2005 4:20:46 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer; Calpernia
This highlights the value of the so-called "library" provision (actually it is all business records, described in Section 215.)

We need to protect our right to national security. You can get help in fighting for your national security rights at Americans for National Security Rights.

38 posted on 04/29/2005 4:46:34 PM PDT by Ziva (Americans for National Security Rights (http://securityrights.org))
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To: Calpernia

I'd bet you are right.


39 posted on 04/29/2005 6:55:26 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Between all the corrupt political busts and all these stories dribbling out again...

I bet we are going to find out!

We will need lotsa popcorn :)


40 posted on 04/29/2005 7:00:27 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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