LOL.. pick a hand, any hand..
Posted on 04/26/2005 7:55:09 AM PDT by jan in Colorado
There's also conflicting statements in the media about Al Libis background.
According to this post, Former CIA counterterrorism chief Vince Cannistraro said [Faraj] al-Libbi, unlike Shaikh Mohammed, never traveled to the West and "wouldn't know San Diego from Queens while the FBI site and most of the rest of the media correctly states that Anas Al-Libi had been living in the United Kingdom, which, IMO, counts as part of "the west."
Apparently, CNN has also repeated the interview with Hamid Mir where he's claiming that Anas Al Libi and Abu Faraj Al Libbi are two seperate people that have been mixed up.
These folks use so may different spellings for their names as well as aliases, is hard to figure out what's going on at times.
Give me cockroaches any day! There's not much we can do for the Papuans, their terrority was lierally stolen from them with the the sanction of the UN.
correction: literally.
American Border Secrets (snip)
When Daniel W. Sutherland, officer for civil rights and civil liberties at the Department of Homeland Security, the CBP's parent organization, spoke in Buffalo earlier this month, he discussed the December episode. On principle, however, he neither justified nor condemned CBP's procedures. Rather, he only acknowledged that CBP did an "after-action review" and refined a few points. Mr. Sutherland placed the detaining of citizens into a larger context ("There are multiple pieces to that puzzle") and spent most of his time emphasizing the need for his department and Muslim groups to work better together.
He was right to remain discreetly uninformative. America finds itself at war with radical Islam not just in Afghanistan but in Buffalo, Boston, Boca Raton, and Baltimore. Controlling the border flow, therefore, has paramount importance. As a law enforcement agency, the CBP in this and other cases (notably that of Tariq Ramadan) should not divulge its exact reasons for excluding foreigners or detaining citizens. To do otherwise would compromise national security.
Which in turn probably explains why, last week, the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the American Civil Liberties Union – two organizations consistently hostile to American self-protection – goaded five of the detained travelers to sue the federal government on the grounds that they "were unlawfully detained, interrogated, fingerprinted, and photographed."
Two of the plaintiffs' demands have lasting implications: that the court declare the CBP had violated the travelers' rights and that it enjoin the CBP from "detaining, interrogating, fingerprinting, and photographing United States citizens who are Muslim because they are returning to the country after having attended religious conferences."
Were the plaintiffs to prevail in this case, attending religious conferences would instantly become the favored method for terrorists and other Islamists to cross the American border without hindrance. Such a malign implication means this lawsuit needs to be tossed out by the courts.
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2557
Thought I might let Daniel Pipes have the last word. And thanks to jan in Colorado for posting this article.
Seems that the US govt sources (and former CIA counterterrorism chief Vince Cannistraro), Hamid Mir, and NPR are correct on Faraj Al Libi.
He has not had reward put on him by the US (also claimed by some of the media) nor is he even on the FBI's top ten wanted terrorist list.
Basically, some of the MEDIA has screwed this all up, as usual, and has him mixed up with Anas so many have wrongly attributed Anas's background to Faraj and some of the posters on threads like Pakistan 'catches al-Qaeda chief' (#3, not bin Laden) are incorrect, and so are some of the pictures and/or articles they refer to.
That's what got me confused in the start.
Hey, and there I was, planning to bring back some sacred religious objects after I attend an Islamic conference this summer!
They better not dare go searching muslim womens bras again either, or I'll get CAIR on thom quicker than you can yell, "Allah Fubar!"
OK, I'll bite. What is an islamic religious object?
Or, 'Excuse me madam, is that a baby you are having or are you smuggling islamic religious artifacts?'
LOL.. pick a hand, any hand..
This one is just between you and me and the gatepost ( as we say in Oz) Did you hear about the new terror weapon in Israel? 'Palestinian' women planning to carry explosives in their vagina?
Birth control a la islam?
The West doesn't need to go out of its way to humiliate islam, islam does such a very good job of humiliating itself.
Hmmmmm, new twist on using the womb as a WMD.
It's either the koran or the hand grenade, I just can't make up my mind which one is the more dangerous...you know, it's no wonder we are in trouble; Mohammad's henchmen were still riding camels an eye-blink ago, and now they have nuclear weapons.
Thank goodness it's a religion of peace! (heavy sarc.)
Especially when you think about the wombs that produced UBL, Zarcreepy, and all of the other screaning mad jihadists.
In some ways a semtex, ahem, "diapraghm" will only kill within a certain radius, while giving birth to these aforementioned monsters has killed thousands worldwide.
perhaps developing an explosive-sensing device that also sterilizes would help?
"perhaps developing an explosive-sensing device that also sterilizes would help?"
I thought about that and can't come up with anything better than a bullet...
LOL.. I dunno about you guys, but I'm still leaving flyers for the group below outside my nearest terrorist support center, opps, I meant "radical" mosque of the many "misunderstanders of Islam" who seek to literally emulate the examples of Muhammed...
Let me know if you need any assistance with printing or delivery costs, I would hate to think any willing candidates might miss out for the sake of a little generousity from Oz.
I'm sure our RoP friends will appreciate our gifts... (beats jizra anyways).
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