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To: redgolum

I'd be interested to see if anyone can provide evidence of a specific case in which the world "ran out of" any raw material or commodity.


11 posted on 04/25/2005 8:23:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Dodos, right?


19 posted on 04/25/2005 8:29:16 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: Alberta's Child
"if anyone can provide evidence"

Precisely!!!

22 posted on 04/25/2005 8:34:04 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

The issue isn't "running out," as it is a supply and demand issue. The world isn't goona run out of oil, at least for a long, long, long time. But have we hit a time when we just cannot meet demand anymore. Can the world keep increading production to meet the growing demand across the globe? If demand keeps rising and production levels off or falls, prices will rise and rise alot. And, let's face it, we as a nation, are dependent on oil. As the cost of oil goes, so goes the cost of everything in this country.


28 posted on 04/25/2005 8:38:06 AM PDT by Mac94
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To: Alberta's Child
I'd be interested to see if anyone can provide evidence of a specific case in which the world "ran out of" any raw material or commodity.

Do you define a specific species of fish -- a "fishery" using the accepted term -- as a commodity?

32 posted on 04/25/2005 8:39:29 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Alberta's Child
I'd be interested to see if anyone can provide evidence of a specific case in which the world "ran out of" any raw material or commodity.

Sperm whale oil, two centuries ago. They hunted them to near extinction, and the price of the oil to light lamps got way too expensive. Electricity came online about that same time, preventing a "catastrophe".

33 posted on 04/25/2005 8:39:51 AM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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To: Alberta's Child

We definitely ran out of $10 oil in this country. Saudi Arabia is the only one left with $10 oil. Lots of $50 oil left though.


56 posted on 04/25/2005 8:59:16 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Alberta's Child

Didn't most of the Texas wells dry up? I mean, is there still drilling in Pennsylvania where oil was first discovered?


65 posted on 04/25/2005 9:18:08 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Alberta's Child
I'd be interested to see if anyone can provide evidence of a specific case in which the world "ran out of" any raw material or commodity.

"Oy! G'day Bruce! Did ya know we've run outta Dodo bird feathers?"

82 posted on 04/25/2005 9:44:50 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The way that you wander is the way that you choose. The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.)
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To: Alberta's Child
We do not run out of aluminum or iron, for example, because they are not energy but substances which can neither be made or destroyed, only scattered through entropic processes. Given enough energy, all of the aluminum and iron every produced can be formed again into pure metals.

The problem with stored energy, petroleum, is that under current understanding, the earth is making it much slower than it is being extracted. At some point in time, although we will never technically be "out of" petroleum, the price and availability will be such that for the economy to maintain itself another primary form of stored energy and subsequent energy conversion technology will or must exist.
95 posted on 04/25/2005 10:11:00 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Alberta's Child

How about whale oil?


134 posted on 04/25/2005 11:39:48 AM PDT by chipengineer
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