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Cops Question Missing Ga. Toddlers' Mom
Fox News ^ | April 24, 2005 | Rita Cosby, Andrew Hard

Posted on 04/25/2005 3:48:18 AM PDT by stm

WARRENTON, Ga. — Police administered a lie detector test Sunday to the mother of two missing toddlers, the children's father told FOX News.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bodiesfound; children; georgia; jonahpayne; kain; missingtoddlers; nicolepayne; search; warrenton
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1 posted on 04/25/2005 3:48:18 AM PDT by stm
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To: stm

When I first heard the mother's story, I said to myself that it doesn't add up... toddlers don't open doors and run out of houses by themselves.


3 posted on 04/25/2005 5:20:22 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Need quote from supporter)
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To: captcall

it has all the makings of it. Except this time she does not have a "description" of the "suspect"


4 posted on 04/25/2005 5:25:12 AM PDT by stm
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To: stm
Age 2 and 3? Unless, they were in the playpen or asleep in their crib, I didn't leave mine alone at that age even to go to the restroom. Even then, I left the doors open.

If I was going to take a bath and hubby wasn't home to watch them, I plopped them in the tub with me (You end up with a wet, messy floor, but a lot of bubble fun!)

5 posted on 04/25/2005 5:35:24 AM PDT by CFW
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To: thoughtomator

Hadn't heard this story, but as to toddlers opening doors, running loose....years ago, a neighbor told me her two year-old son would wake up in the middle of the night and climb kitchen counters, climb on the fridge, wander all over the house. She had a tough time keeping him in bed. Don't recall that he ever got out of the house, though.


6 posted on 04/25/2005 5:40:53 AM PDT by hershey
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To: stm
My three year old pulled a step stool up to the front screen door, unlocked it and went 'walk-about' one day when I was doing some painting in the den. I had been going to check him every 10 minutes or so. He'd been playing in his room with blocks and stuff. I came out and called to him, and when I couldn't find him, went to the front door and saw the stool.

He'd gone to the garage, gotten out a push toy and gone for a walk down the street. I came out of the front door yelling for him, my neighbor, Liam, heard me, and we took off in opposite directions looking for him. Liam found him down the street and around the corner, just walking down the street having a little conversation with himself. Liam didn't want to scare him, so he just engaged him in conversation and said "Why don't we walk home now?". David turned right around and walked back home, still chatting away with Liam.

Scared the bejeebers outta me, I can tell you! I never realized he could manipulate the door like that. We put a second lock higher up on the door so he couldn't reach it even WITH the step stool!

I hadn't heard about this case in GA. I'm praying for those babies, though.

7 posted on 04/25/2005 5:49:41 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: thoughtomator
My girls were born close together. When the little one was very small, I put them both down for a nap and took one also. I woke up and headed down the hallway. There was a sock in the hall, and another, and a trail of clothes leading to the door - which was wide open. There in the yard was my 2 year old happily dancing in the sprinkler - stark nekkid!

Now that she is a teen, she cringes every time I tell this story. I have something to blackmail her with once she starts dating. LOL.

8 posted on 04/25/2005 5:59:49 AM PDT by myprecious
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To: stm

I'm waiting for the headline: "Mom's Boyfriend"


9 posted on 04/25/2005 6:01:33 AM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: captcall
I will keep my mouth shut since I was wrong about Jessica Lumsfeld.

I thought it was the grandfather and we all know now it was one of SEVERAL HUNDRED REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS LIVING WITHIN MILES of her home.

10 posted on 04/25/2005 6:04:56 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: DCPatriot

Here's the registered sex offenders in the county (9 of them).
http://www.ganet.org/gbi/sorsch.cgi?city=&zip=&county=149&names=&submit=Search


This is just about 30 miles east of me.
Prayers for the kids.



11 posted on 04/25/2005 6:09:04 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: thoughtomator

"I said to myself that it doesn't add up... toddlers don't open doors and run out of houses by themselves."

Yes, they do. When my daughter was 2, she would find ways to unlock the deadbolt and open the door and take off to the neighbor's house. Her younger brother, who was just learning to walk, would go with her. I couldn't leave them for a second. Finally, I found those doorknob covers and that was the only thing that she couldn't figure out how to get past.


12 posted on 04/25/2005 6:33:58 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: imskylark

I had to buy a chain with a KEY.

I was threatened by the fire department when I put locks on my upstairs windows to keep my son off the roof. He was ripping the shingles off the roof and hiding them under his bed.

Some people don't comprehend *ahem* UNUSUAL children. : )


13 posted on 04/25/2005 6:40:31 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Don't retire to Florida. They murder their "useless eaters".)
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To: imskylark
You're right. Toddlers have mobility and absolutely no inhibition about using it.

I grew up hearing the story of a Florida vacation during which my mom found me playing in the beach surf. I had gotten out of the house, crossed highway A1A, and then walked down to the water's edge to apparently look for sea shells. I was 2 years old and the whole family had spent the day before on the same beach.

A couple years later my older brother left me on a shopping plaza mechanical pony and went into a store. When the ride ended I got off, looked around, and started to cry. Some guy in a car pulled up at the curb and encouraged me to get in so we could "look for your parents". Luckily, that made me really scream and the car pulled away.

Those lessons, which I fortunately and/or by the Grace of G*d survived, have led me to be careful with my kids to the point that my wife sometimes calls me paranoid. My answer to the charge is something along the lines of "so I'm paranoid, tough s***."

14 posted on 04/25/2005 6:59:28 AM PDT by katana
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To: hershey

Years ago, a young couple with a two year old was moving in next door to my parents. They knocked on our door frantic because they had turned their backs for a moment and their son was gone. As we were helping them look for him, I walked into their garage. In the middle of the floor was an upright freezer with nothing around it. On top sat that child with the biggest smile on his face. To this day I have no idea how he got up there.


15 posted on 04/25/2005 7:35:15 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: thoughtomator
toddlers don't open doors and run out of houses by themselves.

My oldest son was 20 months old and I was 8 months pregnant with my second. I was in the kitchen dishing out dinner and he was in the living room, in view through the archway.

I turned to the stove, and within two minutes, he had opened the door, run down the driveway, turned on the sidewalk. He had already crossed one street and was in the next block when a neighbor caught him.

It happened so fast that I was still at the stove when the neighbor knocked on the door with him. Talk about stunned!!

Becki

16 posted on 04/25/2005 7:38:01 AM PDT by Becki (The original point and click interface was a Smith and Wesson.)
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To: thoughtomator

I don't know anything about this story, but I do know without a doubt that toddlers do indeed open doors and run out of houses by themselves.

We had moved into a brand new subdivision with plenty of empty lots and houses under construction. I had an infant and I sat down to nurse her while my 2 y/o son napped (or so I thought). The builder had installed a latch deadbolt and apparently my wily little guy knew exactly what to do. My new neighbor caught him running down the street stark naked (yes he was one to shed his clothes as well) and I hadn't even realized he was gone! To this day I shudder to think of it. We had all sorts of construction debris around, not to mention construction workers!

I hadn't heard the house alarm beep when the door opened. My husband changed the locks to a keyed deadbolt that very evening!

But for the Grace of God!!!


17 posted on 04/25/2005 7:50:14 AM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GatorGirl

Toddler's ability to open locks (which we all know they can do) notwithstanding, what I find very odd is that no one has reported seeing or finding these children. This brings two scenarios to mind, they have been abducted or something in that household is fishy and things are not as they have been reported.


18 posted on 04/25/2005 8:17:13 AM PDT by stm
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Ga. police search for missing toddlers
By Errin Haines, Associated Press Writer | April 25, 2005

WARRENTON, Ga. --Forty hours after two toddlers were reported missing from their home, police on Monday said they have few leads to find the children.

Jonah and Nicole Payne were reported missing Saturday from their Warren County home.

On Sunday, agents from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation questioned the children's mother. Authorities said more than one person has been given a polygraph test. They would not comment on the tests.

"Every resource that we have available to us is being called in," said John Bankhead, a spokesman for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. "Right now, we have very little to go on."

The 2-year-old girl and her 3-year-old-brother were last seen in their home in east Georgia about 100 miles from Atlanta. The house is in a rural wooded area near a lake. The exact circumstances of their disappearance was not known.

Bankhead the search "is at a critical stage, at the 40th hour."

"You get to 72 hours and the investigation will probably change as far as the search goes," Bankhead said. "Right now we're keeping our fingers crossed that we'll find these children safely, but quite frankly as the hours go by the odds decrease considerably."

Bankhead said investigators need the public's help to find the children.

"Every resource that we have available to us has been called in to help us locate these children," Bankhead said. "Right now we have very little to go on. The sheriff's office has received a number of tips ... nothing concrete, nothing solid. The primary focus is to locate these two children safely. As time goes on that becomes more complicated."

Bankhead said one concern is the weather. Temperatures dropped into the 30s Sunday night and were expected to be in the 30s again Monday night.

"It's a critical point. It's been very cold at night. We fear for their safety if they're still out there."

Nicole was described as 30 inches tall with shoulder-length blond hair. She may have some hair missing in front because of a burn. She was last seen wearing a purple turtleneck, light-colored blue jeans and purple high-top tennis shoes.

Jonah was described as 40 inches tall with shoulder-length black hair. He was last seen wearing a red and white shirt with a gray collar and the number seven on the back, blue jeans and brown hiking boots.

Authorities say the likelihood of finding the children safe is decreasing.

"As the hours go by, the chances get slimmer and slimmer," Bankhead said.

A spokesman for the parents said Nicole "has some breathing problems" and uses a breathing machine daily. The boy is also on medication for an unspecified medical condition, the spokesman said.


19 posted on 04/25/2005 9:28:38 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

>>She may have some hair missing in front because of a burn.<<

May? Either she does or she doesn't - seems the mother would know one way or the other.

Wierd...


20 posted on 04/25/2005 12:38:02 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Why yes, I am "narrow minded", thank you! See Matthew 7:14.)
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