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DEMS Blink on Judge Owens
myself ^ | 21 April 2005 | trueblackman

Posted on 04/21/2005 8:53:05 AM PDT by Trueblackman

On a 10-8 vote, Priscilla Owen has just gotten through the Senate Judiciary Committee. Now heads to the Senate floor for a full vote -- All up to Majority Leader Frist as to when.


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To: Trueblackman
My source tell me they are going to let Brown thru as well as to not give Republicans the chance to play the race card.

You mean Brown is a female minority?
WHAT a surprise.

21 posted on 04/21/2005 8:59:46 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Preachin'

Don't get me wrong but some day I long for Trent Lott as majority leader!


22 posted on 04/21/2005 9:00:04 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman

I don't know. I'd say with the Voinovich stunt, and with the leaks on the Hill about bad polling data on the nuke option, looks like it might be the dems sensing blood in the water. We shall see. When's the vote? Anyone know?


23 posted on 04/21/2005 9:00:12 AM PDT by Huck (One day the lion will lay down with the lamb; Until that day comes, I want America to be the lion.)
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To: Trueblackman

There's no blinking going on... the Dems will still prevent cloture on the floor of the Senate... and the GOP is still unsure if they have 50 votes for a rules change.


24 posted on 04/21/2005 9:00:14 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Trueblackman

The amazing thing is that the GOP didn't blink. Of course the nomination left committee, we are still the majority. At least numerically.


25 posted on 04/21/2005 9:00:20 AM PDT by VRWC_minion ( I'll send email telling you where to send check.)
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To: Preachin'
They know that they'll not get cloture, or enough votes to change the senate rule to forbid a filibuster.

That's my thinking - force Frist's hand now, while the RINOs are enjoying their power.

26 posted on 04/21/2005 9:00:40 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Trueblackman

I guess Voinovich, Chaffee and some others have told the Dems of their true alliegence. "Just count on us, guys, to screw it up in the end."


27 posted on 04/21/2005 9:00:49 AM PDT by Socratic (Ignorant and free? It's not to be. - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
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To: Trueblackman

Fat Ted must have had a hang over and could not muster his fat ass up out of the chair to argue about it. Probably busy puking in his hat.


28 posted on 04/21/2005 9:01:35 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Let there be no mistake. Let me be very clear: I HATE DEMOCRATS! Enemies of the Republic.)
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To: Trueblackman
"Priscilla Owen has just gotten through the Senate Judiciary Committee...."

Well praise God!!!

29 posted on 04/21/2005 9:02:17 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Trueblackman

No surprise.

I think she has gotten through committee before.

It's the floor vote we need.


30 posted on 04/21/2005 9:02:25 AM PDT by KidGlock (Get in the pit and try to love some one)
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To: Trueblackman

Wasn't there others scheduled for a vote in Committee today?.... Janice Brown and maybe one other..... I think they are holding Pryor till next week.

The vote was 10-8 last Congress for her to get out of Committee... Don't see any blinks in this vote. If so it would have been 11-7 or something like that, imo.


31 posted on 04/21/2005 9:02:39 AM PDT by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: Redcloak

There is no lock box and no testicles. We Republicans keep allowing ourselves to be steered into sending bum steers to Washington.


32 posted on 04/21/2005 9:03:55 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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To: CFC__VRWC
"That's my thinking - force Frist's hand now, while the RINOs are enjoying their power."

I agree with the idea, but my thinking is that the democrats know he doesn't have the support from within his own party.

So many of the GOP Senators are the New England variety, where being pro-life issue is like a hangman's noose.
33 posted on 04/21/2005 9:04:17 AM PDT by Preachin' (Keep the Kerry/Edwards tags on your cars so we can identify the root of your disease.)
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To: Trueblackman
My source tell me they are going to let Brown thru as well as to not give Republicans the chance to play the race card.

After your example, black Americans should get disgusted over this kind of blatant racism, and have the principle to reject it as such even though it works to their advantage. I wish there were more, and hope this act of pandering is fully publicized for what it is.

The Slave Party has done little for black Americans but destroy families, entrap them with entitlements, color their achievements with affirmative action, and assure that their kids don't get an education. It's a wonder to me that blacks vote for Democrats at all.

34 posted on 04/21/2005 9:06:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: KidGlock
"It's the floor vote we need."


I'm not an expert on the senate rules, but doesn't it still need cloture?

This is the issue in the senate rules that allows the democrats to filibuster if they choose.

I simply think the dems know that Frist doesn't have the votes, and are openly embarrassing him.
35 posted on 04/21/2005 9:06:34 AM PDT by Preachin' (Keep the Kerry/Edwards tags on your cars so we can identify the root of your disease.)
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To: deport

Republicans send Owen nomination to Senate

By JESSE J. HOLLAND Associated Press Writer The Associated Press

Republicans sent a Texas judge´s name to the full Senate for confirmation for a third time Thursday, moving closer to a confrontation over Democratic filibustering of President Bush´s judicial nominees.

The Senate Judiciary Committee on a 10-8 party-line vote gave its approval to judge Priscilla Owen, who was nominated by Bush for a seat on the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.

The committee was scheduled to do the same for California judge Janice Rogers Brown, who is seeking a lifetime slot on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia.

Owen and Brown were blocked from confirmation by Democratic filibuster threats during Bush´s first term, but were renominated by the president after he won a second term in November. Democrats consider the nominees too conservative.

Republicans said Democratic complaints were unfounded and that Owen should be confirmed since the Senate´s GOP majority has the 51 votes necessary.

"She deserves to be confirmed and she deserves the professional courtesy of an up or down vote," said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who served on the Texas Supreme Court with Owen.

But Democrats made clear they would attempt to filibuster Owen again. "Since we last considered this nomination, nothing has changed to make us think she should be confirmed," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass.

Owen´s nomination is not worth the confrontation it will cause, said Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the Senate´s no. 2 Democrat.

"This nomination is going to be precipitate a confrontation that we do not need," Durbin said.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., has threatened to ban judicial filibusters to stop Democrats from blocking the judges again, and has been working to secure the 50 votes he needs from his Republican caucus to make the rules change.

It requires 60 votes in the Senate to overcome a filibuster.

In an attempt to make Republicans reconsider that plan, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid has vowed to slow or halt Senate action on much routine business if Frist follows through with his threat to force up-and-down votes in which nominees could be confirmed by a bare majority of the 100-member Senate.

Without GOP defections, Democrats can´t stop Brown and Owen from advancing to the full Senate for approval since the Judiciary Committee has 10 Republicans and eight Democrats.

However, Democrats have promised to continue to filibuster all seven nominees they blocked during Bush´s first term. Democrats blocked 10 judicial nominees from confirmation through filibuster threats. Three withdrew and Bush renominated the rest.

North Carolina judge Terrence W. Boyle, a former aide to retired Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., who expected a committee vote as well, was held over after Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., requested extra time to review some of his rulings as a U.S. District judge. Boyle was never filibustered by Democrats because his nomination was blocked in committee by then-North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

Another of Bush´s blocked nominees, Idaho lawyer William Myers, already has been approved by the Judiciary Committee. But conservatives would rather see the final showdown come over Brown, Owen or U.S. Appeals Court Judge William Pryor, who was given a temporary appointment by Bush after he was blocked by Democrats.

Pryor´s nomination is expected to be advanced by the Judiciary Committee next week.

Conservatives during the last Congress accused Democrats of being anti-minority for blocking Brown, who is black; anti-women for blocking Owen, and anti-Catholic for blocking Pryor.

Activists plan a similar tactic this year, with Frist planning to deliver a taped message to Christian conservatives on April 24 who say Democrats are "against people of faith" for blocking Bush´s nominees.

But Democrats say they blocked Owen, a Texas Supreme Court justice and a friend of the president´s, because her opinions and rulings are overly influenced by her pro-business and anti-abortion personal beliefs.

Brown, who serves on the California Supreme Court, was described by liberals as being a conservative judicial activist whose personal opinions lead her to decisions limiting abortion rights and corporate liability and opposing affirmative action.


36 posted on 04/21/2005 9:07:37 AM PDT by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: pookie18

Straight party-line vote. Same 10-8 count voted Janice Rogers Brown out as well.
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Tell me the liberal left is not SCARED TO DEATH of sucsessful black female judges being seen in the limelight. This is just not supposed to happen when BLACKS IN AMERICA ARE VICTIMS and they MUST HAVE THE LIBS TO SAVE THEM from the evil right, anti-black conspiracy....


37 posted on 04/21/2005 9:08:21 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: Redcloak

"Testicular lockbox" is great.


38 posted on 04/21/2005 9:08:23 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Trueblackman

Getting out of committee isn't the problem. Its getting cloture on the floor that's been holding up everything. If the Republicans can't get 60 votes for cloture, the nomination is effectively fillibustered. Nothing new here at all, except the showdown in the Senate is that much closer.


39 posted on 04/21/2005 9:08:37 AM PDT by rhc2000
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To: Trueblackman; dirtboy

That strategery won't work for the Dems..here's why..if they allow a vote on some of them...Brown, for example, will get 60+ votes...all the Dems from the Red states up in 2006..so the argument that the Dems have the right to filabuster will be negated...when they try to stop the others...


40 posted on 04/21/2005 9:08:53 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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