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IBM Signs $125 Million Deal To Build Nationwide Speed Trap
InformationWeek ^ | April 15, 2005 | George V. Hulme

Posted on 04/17/2005 2:46:01 PM PDT by Willie Green

In what is described as the largest telematics deal in history, IBM engineers will design an automobile-monitoring system and install a device in cars to track drivers in the United Arab Emirates.

(Excerpt) Read more at informationweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; privacy; rfid
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1 posted on 04/17/2005 2:46:01 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

"install a device in cars"

Talking about invasion of privacy...


2 posted on 04/17/2005 2:48:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Willie Green

Swell.


3 posted on 04/17/2005 2:48:49 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Willie Green

Five MPH over the limit -- loose your right testicle

Ten MPH over the limit -- loose your head !!!

Hey . . . Islam rules !!! ;-))


4 posted on 04/17/2005 2:50:04 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!! -- Impeach Greer !!!.)
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To: Willie Green

"CERT Telematics has committed to buy at least 100,000 PDA-like units, which will be installed within automobile carriages, Ziter says. The telematics device will use multiple microprocessors based on IBM's Power Architecture, and will have the capability to monitor the speed of the vehicle and send out a warning if the car surpasses the posted speed limit.

The telematic device will include several wireless technologies, including GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) cellular capabilities and General Packet Radio Service. Bluetooth and an optional driver-identification feature using RFID also will be on the device, as will IBM's speech software, Via Voice. "


Good grief! Talking about a cop in your back seat.

In the US they are already putting in black boxes, and after an accident they can determine how fast the driver was going and other parameters, whether he was braking, etc., I think that's pretty bad, but this way surpasses that.


5 posted on 04/17/2005 2:52:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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FairOpinion wrote:

"install a device in cars"

Talking about invasion of privacy...

--> Consider the source: United Emigrates
I don't think they have very much rights/privacy to begin with.


6 posted on 04/17/2005 2:55:50 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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You just wait, it'll start in California. 5 mph over the limit $100 fine, 10 mph over the limit $350 fine ect...


7 posted on 04/17/2005 2:58:50 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

But here in the US they are installing black boxes in cars, which keep track of your speed, etc. -- they aren't broadcasting it, just yet...


8 posted on 04/17/2005 3:00:41 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Willie Green

Another good reason to just keep fixing my old bronco, as opposed to buying a new rig.


9 posted on 04/17/2005 3:04:55 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Willie Green

One can only imagine what people like J. Edger Hoover could have done with the ability to tap into a database and locate virtually anyone in the country (at least if they drive a car). Add a little software, and can figure out when and where people congregate - what your political opponents are doing, etc.

Thank goodness that can't happen here.

Wait a second - isn't that what toll road transponders allow. And it's Republicans (like Governor Perry, here in Texas) taking to lead to give government that capability - and they still want our votes!.

Go figure.


10 posted on 04/17/2005 3:07:05 PM PDT by BobL
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To: FairOpinion
I think that's pretty bad, but this way surpasses that.

I agree. It's getting spooky.

11 posted on 04/17/2005 3:13:52 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
But here in the US they are installing black boxes in cars, which keep track of your speed, etc..

I've heard of this with rentals. Do you know this is happening with non-rentals?

If so, what's the source?
12 posted on 04/17/2005 3:27:48 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Stand or fall.)
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To: Willie Green

Well, since I have some experience with IBM contracts, all I can say is: "HA HA."

This 125 million contract will turn into a 300 million, won't work, and IBM will continue to collect while "fixing" the problem.

Never, ever, sign a contract with IBM, unless they are paying you. Even then, might want to get 50% up front.


13 posted on 04/17/2005 3:32:08 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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This 125 million contract will turn into a 300 million, won't work, and IBM will continue to collect while "fixing" the problem.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....
As if the OPECkers can't afford to foot the bill on the development costs.
Then guess WHO is gonna get backstabbed once all the bugs are worked out!!!

14 posted on 04/17/2005 3:36:47 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: clyde asbury

Privacy Experts Shun Black Boxes

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132056,00.html

Friday, September 10, 2004

WASHINGTON — Some safety and privacy experts are reacting with apprehension, others with all out condemnation over a recent ruling by the National Transportation Safety Board (search) to require electronic data recorders or "black boxes" in all new cars manufactured in the United States.

Black boxes (search), or "EDRs" have been fitted into every General Motors car in its 2004 line and is in a number of Ford models — about 15 percent of all vehicles on the road today, according to road safety experts.

EDRs are certainly not new. Information gathered on black boxes — typically everything from speed, brake pressure, seat belt use and air bag deployment — has already been used in determining guilt in criminal and civil cases across the country.

The NTSB recommended in early August that black boxes be mandated, but critics say dealers are not now required to alert car owners that their car has the ability to collect the information. Currently only California has a law requiring car dealers to notify buyers when their cars are outfitted with an EDR.

Owners also have no legal protections to keep them from being forced to hand over that information to another party if a court order demanded it.


15 posted on 04/17/2005 3:58:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Not yet. Invasion will be when the car engine automatically shuts off five times a day at prayer time (police, fire engines and ambulances exepted - and this exeption will be trumpeted as a major liberalization advance). But it is going there.


16 posted on 04/17/2005 4:07:24 PM PDT by GSlob
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Privacy Experts Shun Black Boxes

Wow. Thanks for the article.

That's surprising.

There's money to be made disabling or modifying these boxes, if possible - if only on the black market.
17 posted on 04/17/2005 4:13:40 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Stand or fall.)
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We had a whole thread on those black boxes at the time the article came out.

They can just as easily pass a law making it a felony to disable the black boxes.


18 posted on 04/17/2005 4:24:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: clyde asbury


Forget the black boxes, I used to work for a company that did tolls. If you have a toll RF box in your car, it can already be tracked, and the next step is to get the auto manufacturers to include the boxes/tags on the car - they will store information about the car like registration info in it.

I give it 3 years, tops.


19 posted on 04/17/2005 4:42:06 PM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: FairOpinion

Are not these already in trucks?


20 posted on 04/17/2005 4:43:16 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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