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Depressed? New York City Screens for People at Risk
NY Times ^ | April 13, 2005 | MARC SANTORA and BENEDICT CAREY

Posted on 04/16/2005 5:02:26 PM PDT by neverdem

Doctors in New York City have begun to use a simple questionnaire to determine if a patient is at risk for depression, a practice that health officials hope will become a routine part of primary care, much like a blood pressure test or cholesterol reading.

The new program is the first to carry out depression screening using a scored test on a wide scale. It comes amid a spirited national debate among psychiatrists, policy makers and patient-advocacy groups on the wisdom of screening for mental disorders, especially in children.

In 2003, an expert panel convened by President Bush recommended expanding mental health screening, and Congress budgeted $20 million in supporting money for state pilot programs for this year. Several states, including populous states like Florida and Illinois, have begun to investigate large-scale screening plans, and scores of schools and other youth centers throughout the country have used instruments to test youngsters for suicide risk.

But some politicians and advocates for patients argue that testing people broadly for mental conditions is an invitation to overdiagnosis, unnecessary treatment and lifelong stigmatization.

In New York, no federal money is being used for the program, which is under way in hospitals run by the city. The test, which is being given to adults only, derives a depression score from the answers to nine questions. It is not meant to yield a formal diagnosis, but a high score would lead a doctor to recommend a more thorough clinical screening.

The test includes questions about mood and behavior.

For instance, patients are asked if over the past two weeks they have felt "down, depressed or hopeless." They can answer by checking one of four categories: not at all, several days, more than half the days or nearly every day. Dr. Lloyd I. Sederer, who heads the mental health division of the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, which is leading the New York effort, said he hoped the screening would set an example for other doctors in New York and around the country.

"It is our hope to have this become a standard practice," Dr. Sederer said.

Health officials in New York City are working with the Health and Hospitals Corporation to put their screening program into effect. So far, only about a dozen primary-care physicians are using the test, which was developed using research from the RAND Corporation. The goal is to have every primary-care physician in the city hospital system using the test within the next two or three years. One in every four New Yorkers uses city hospitals for basic health-care treatment, meaning the program could soon involve millions of patients.

Dr. Sederer said that a similar screening test could be developed for adolescents and that if the testing of adults gained acceptance, it would be easier for doctors to use a screening procedure for patients of any age.

Psychiatrists and other proponents say mental health screening is long overdue. They argue that millions of people with serious mental disorders never get help, and that heightened vigilance would not only allow doctors to head off much worse mental problems later, but would also reduce the tremendous costs of untreated illness.

Surveys have found that about 16 percent of Americans - or as many as 46 million people - suffer from depression at some point. And by some estimates, depression costs the nation $44 billion a year in lost work and disability - more than any other illness, including heart disease.

But opponents say that depression is not always easy for primary-care doctors to recognize, even in people who seek help, and they argue that a screening score of any kind could needlessly confuse or worry patients.

"When you label people as having a mental problem, such a label stays with them for their entire lives, whether or not it's accurate," said Vera Hassner Sharav, president of the Alliance for Human Research Protection, a patient-advocacy group that has been campaigning to block screening for mental health.

Critics like Ms. Sharav contend that screening tests will also increase the use of psychiatric drugs, including antidepressants like Zoloft and Prozac, whose use in children and adolescents has recently come under scrutiny by regulators.

Representative Ron Paul, a Texas Republican and a gynecologist, introduced an amendment last fall to block federal financing for screening programs, in part because of worries about overmedicating schoolchildren. The plan was rejected.

"We already have a tremendous number of kids being put on drugs like Ritalin and Prozac," Dr. Paul said, "and I think if these screening programs grow, you're going to see a lot of people pushed into medication programs for behavioral problems."

Dr. Sederer and psychiatrists, psychologists and administrators around the country who favor screening say these concerns are overblown and obscure a much larger problem: a dismissive public attitude toward mental illness.

Bill Emmet, coordinator for the Campaign for Mental Health Reform, a coalition of organizations working to build support for screening and other mental health programs, said: "Are people sometimes misdiagnosed? Of course. But the fact is that there are whole segments of the population that for a variety of reasons are not being diagnosed with problems they do have, and that is the far greater problem."

Dr. Sederer said that once doctors were convinced that a quantitative score worked in recognizing depression, they would be more open to using similar measures for other areas of mental health.

Still, he acknowledged that "nobody likes to be measured" and said that there had been some resistance from doctors who worried that this would take away from already limited time with patients and add to their workload. The science behind screening is mixed. In studies of patients who belong to health maintenance organizations in California and Washington, researchers have found that screening, when combined with programs that coordinate treatment, does help many adults who are struggling with depression and who would otherwise receive little or no care.

But in May, the Preventive Services Task Force, a federal panel of experts that advises doctors and the government on screening guidelines, concluded that there was not enough evidence to recommend a similar kind of screening for suicide risk. The controversy is not likely to be settled soon.

"I have been getting a lot of attention on this, and it runs across the political spectrum, from civil libertarians on the left to Christians on the right," Representative Paul said. "I think the idea of screening people, of asking these kinds of questions, rubs people the wrong way, and particularly when it's their children."

Officials in New York, however, defend their initiative.

"Depression is a leading illness in New York City, but it can be effectively treated," said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the city's health commissioner. "Our surveys show that there are an estimated 400,000 New Yorkers with depression; many have not been accurately diagnosed or effectively treated."


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Dr. Lloyd I. Sederer, the director of mental health services in New York, hopes to set an example for the nation by screening for depression.

I wonder if, by chance, Dr. Sederer is related to Lavrenti Beria? With the way that the Communists abused psychiatry, and the way the government under either the pubbies or dems increasingly looks like big brother, this mass screening for depression is ripe for abuse. I'm sure the gun grabbers will love it.

"Depression is a leading illness in New York City, but it can be effectively treated," said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the city's health commissioner.

I wonder if they considered the possibility that living in this city can make people become depressed? BTW, this was a front page story on the day it went to press, IIRC. I was busy with taxes and got depressed.

1 posted on 04/16/2005 5:02:27 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Liberalism is a mental illness. New York City should begin screening people at risk for it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 04/16/2005 5:08:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
I was busy with taxes and got depressed.

Exactly. Being depressed isn't like having a broken leg. It could simply be a very healthy response to an unhealthy situation. Who are these guys to say that your or my reaction to a particular situation is somehow inappropriate?

3 posted on 04/16/2005 5:10:29 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: goldstategop

Good point! Doctors can be the first line of defense in eradicating this debilitating (to America) illness.


4 posted on 04/16/2005 5:11:47 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Fee, Fie, Foe, FReep!)
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To: goldstategop

I havent been to a doc since 1975.


5 posted on 04/16/2005 5:12:01 PM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: neverdem

27 out of 27


6 posted on 04/16/2005 5:12:35 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: glock rocks; Eaker; Squantos; Gilbo_3; Joe Brower; Lurker; Badray; from occupied ga; ...
I added this thread to the "bang list", because I can easily see the day when the statist gun grabbers will make it a felony for anyone who has been diagnosed with a mental illness (such as depression) to own a firearm.
7 posted on 04/16/2005 5:13:13 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: inquest
Exactly. Being depressed isn't like having a broken leg. It could simply be a very healthy response to an unhealthy situation. Who are these guys to say that your or my reaction to a particular situation is somehow inappropriate?

but... our culture sez that there's a cure for everything!! god forbid that we actually CHANGE OUR HABITS, or LIVE BETTER LIVES..

8 posted on 04/16/2005 5:14:33 PM PDT by podkaneofmars
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To: inquest
Who are these guys to say that your or my reaction to a particular situation is somehow inappropriate?

Look at the scoring method. Someone who has trouble sleeping and concentrating on the television is diagnosed as having "mild depression".

What a crock of BS. This means more money for doctors and the pharmacutical companies, and the politicians who funnel money their way.

Whoever dreamed this up needs to lose their medical license, and be investigated for fraud.

9 posted on 04/16/2005 5:17:00 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

1,4, and 7 shouldn't even count; 8 and 9 should be worth 10 points each.


10 posted on 04/16/2005 5:17:51 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: inquest
Who are these guys to say that your or my reaction to a particular situation is somehow inappropriate?

Congress budgeted $20 million reasons for positive outcomes in the depression screening questionnaires. Follow the money.

11 posted on 04/16/2005 5:31:05 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: neverdem

NYers would be crazy not to be depressed.

12 posted on 04/16/2005 5:31:28 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

LOL! You just made me more depressed. Putzhead was endorsed by the NY Post of all papers. IIRC, putzhead was re-elected with 70 % of the vote last November.


13 posted on 04/16/2005 5:45:24 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


14 posted on 04/16/2005 6:01:27 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.


15 posted on 04/16/2005 6:03:10 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: inquest
"It could simply be a very healthy response to an unhealthy situation. Who are these guys to say that your or my reaction to a particular situation is somehow inappropriate?"

Much wisdom in your statement. My guess is that the drug companies (for Prozac, etc...) are all looking forward to this new testing. The scary part about it all is I'm sure there will be some doctors who will have patients take this test and then prescribe them anti-depressants - without proper counseling - and in some cases for reasons that shouldn't require long-term medication....
16 posted on 04/16/2005 6:03:37 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: neverdem

Good thing you didn't post this yesterday!!!Ping thanks.


17 posted on 04/16/2005 6:04:30 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: neverdem

now I'M depressed...


18 posted on 04/16/2005 6:06:16 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: LibertyRocks
The scary part about it all is I'm sure there will be some doctors who will have patients take this test and then prescribe them anti-depressants - without proper counseling - and in some cases for reasons that shouldn't require long-term medication....

I agree. Schools are already doing it to kids.

19 posted on 04/16/2005 6:11:53 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: neverdem
Thanks for the questionnaire!

I slept too much recently.
I often sleep too little.
I've often over eaten.
I don't enjoy mowing the lawn.
Sometimes I speak slowly. And sometimes, rapidly.

Oh my God, I'm a sick freak!!!!!!! Please, pump me full of mind altering drugs!

If only they'd given me Ritalin when I was a kid, maybe I'd be a better person today ...
20 posted on 04/16/2005 6:22:13 PM PDT by PackardClipper
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