Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jane Fonda, Alan Colmes and The Inane Liberal Mindset
MENS NEWS DAILY.COM ^ | APRIL 7, 2005 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 04/09/2005 1:35:15 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Last night, while watching Hannity & Colmes, I resisted the temptation of throwing something at the television set. I’ve heard, consistently, from many conservatives who know him, that Alan is “really a nice guy”. Maybe so. But, his comments continue to be consistently absurd, mindless, immature, idiotic, perplexing and too many other adjectives defining ‘ludicrous’ to list here. One of his Wednesday comments, however, took the proverbial cake.

Engaged in a conversation with Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, regarding Jane Fonda and her new book, the inevitable subject of Fonda’s Viet Nam war atrocities came up in the discussion. Please bear in mind that North not only had first-hand experience in Viet Nam but, knows this war backward, forward, inside and out. North brought up Fonda’s many treasonous actions, during the war and her comments and actions against the US were myriad. One of these that North brought up still has the ability to elicit the strongest of emotions from our Viet Nam veterans. On one of her trips to Viet Nam, where she sided with the enemy Viet Cong against the US and our troops, US prisoners believed they might have some hope…if they could just get messages to Fonda.

Having no idea that Fonda had become a communist-plant, our fathers, sons and husbands managed (at great cost personal to them and the risk of sacrificing their lives if they were caught) to get handwritten messages to Fonda. In their messages, our soldiers begged her to get their information back to the states. They were valiantly trying to get the true story of their imprisonment and torture back to the American people. However, instead of taking the messages home with her, Fonda turned them over to our prisoners’ Viet Cong captors. This resulted in even more severe torture and even death for our troops. Hanoi Jane had accomplished her job well.

Now comes the “kicker”. In response to North’s comments, Colmes (in his inimitable condescending fashion) had the impudence to say: “If we can forgive George Bush for his youthful indiscretions, maybe we can forgive Jane Fonda.” What??? Colmes is comparing Fonda’s treason and her directly causing the torture and death of American citizens to President Bush’s former “youthful indiscretions” with alcohol? Good grief! Does Alan even bother to take his mind with him, when he leaves his home each day? This reflects yet more liberal insanity and a gross lack of mental acumen. At its very best, this comment reflects a badly failing intellect. It is, also, one of the best examples of the way liberals think and, most likely, the reason why they fight against the death penalty for mass murderers yet saw no problem with Terri Schiavo’s forced euthanasia and support the abortion of babies. Most liberals are lunatics who do not appear to possess the ability for rational thought. Colmes’ comment is but another glaring example of their malady. This is, also, another illustration of why they must no longer be elected…to anything. Irrationality and stupidity are not prime qualifications for public office.

Sher Zieve is a Conservative political commentator who firmly believes that if Leftists ran the country (left to their own devices), it would be the end of the United States as a sovereign nation. Email her at: sher_zieve@yahoo.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alancolmes; col; foxcable; hannitycolmes; hanoijane; idiotic; interview; janefonda; liberal; mindset; olivernorth; responses
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-114 next last
To: CHARLITE

"...she's going to have an interview with Alan Colmes next Tuesday on Hannity & Colmes - FNC."

Which brings us back to the topic. As much as I would like to hear what Sher has to say on this subject, I don't know I can stomach AC. The night this article is referring to I turned off Hannity & Colmes, wrote e-mails to them, viewer services & comments@foxnews telling them I would never watch this program again. I told them Colmes was dispicable & they were following the alphabet networks with distorted, fake, mutilated versions of what they call news.


81 posted on 04/09/2005 9:52:48 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I will buy Jane's book if she throws up in front of me.


82 posted on 04/09/2005 10:07:03 PM PDT by fatima (John Paul II We love you.Rest in peace dear Father.We will miss you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: sgtbono2002

What a great idea. See you there. And I'm bringing my dog.


83 posted on 04/09/2005 10:21:30 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: CHARLITE

I have come to the conclusion that the cadaverous Colmes is mentally ill.


84 posted on 04/09/2005 10:42:29 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!


85 posted on 04/10/2005 3:08:31 AM PDT by E.G.C.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: CHARLITE

I also find it interesting that Colonel North (who has a long history with Viet Nam Vets and knows this war intimately) was the one who brought this up on H & C.


86 posted on 04/10/2005 6:11:48 AM PDT by Neocon_too
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Mears
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But this makes for a VERY dull show. A good liberal against Hannity would make very interesting television.Hannity needs someone he can get his teeth into and Colmes isn't that person!

It's not dull for the Hannity-ites. They have made him popular enough to have a radio show too. The show is all about Hannity; Combs is just a pimp, selling hinself.
What else is new in the world of entertainment? Lol.

87 posted on 04/10/2005 7:01:57 AM PDT by starfish923
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Neocon_too; starfish923
"I also find it interesting that Colonel North (who has a long history with Viet Nam Vets and knows this war intimately) was the one who brought this up on H & C."

I just received another email from Sher Zieve, the author of the piece on Alan Colmes, liberals and Jane Fonda. Sher says that she got her information about the note passing from POWs to Fonda from Ollie North.

Sher is going to be on H&C (Fox cable) day after tomorrow......Tuesday, April 12 - 9 PM (EDT)-6 PM (PDT).

88 posted on 04/10/2005 2:11:15 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Women are powerful; freedom is beautiful.........and STUPID IS FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: CHARLITE

Then the author of this piece failed to check the facts.


89 posted on 04/10/2005 2:50:51 PM PDT by withteeth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: withteeth; starfish923; Neocon_too
CORRECTION!

Sher Zieve is not appearing on Hannity & Colmes T.V. show on Fox. That was a misunderstanding on my part. She will be a guest on Alan Colmes radio show at 11:00 PM (EDT) on Tuesday April 12th. For local stations, check here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130069,00.html

As for the facts in Sher's article, all that I can tell you is that she says that Ollie North verified the "note passing" incident. It could be that Ollie got this one wrong. No one is perfect, but Sher might comment more extensively on the issue during her interview with Alan Colmes this coming Tuesday evening.

Char :)

90 posted on 04/10/2005 2:59:06 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Women are powerful; freedom is beautiful.........and STUPID IS FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: withteeth

Not necessarily. If you read the article, closely, she's commenting on Colmes remarks to Ollie's statements. Sher's big problem with Colmes seems to be that he thinks Pres. Bush's youthful problems with alcohol are the same as Fonda's treason. Hope you don't see it that way, withteeth.


91 posted on 04/10/2005 6:00:13 PM PDT by Neocon_too
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy; CHARLITE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"According to snopes, the story of Jane Fonda turning notes over to the Vietnmese guards is a debunked myth."

According to Snopes...

Snopes is anti God, and anti America from their roots. They have no credibility. The story about the notes has been corroborated by the victims, and other observers; how can snopes 'debunk' a true story?

92 posted on 04/10/2005 7:42:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Txsleuth
"Okay, so we are to believe snopes that the story really didn't happen?"

You believe snopes, you'll believe anything.

93 posted on 04/10/2005 7:46:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Joe 6-pack
"Hannity constantly cranks out and markets new books and Colmes is right there to color them in...."

LOL !!!!!!!!!

94 posted on 04/10/2005 7:49:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
" The story about the notes has been corroborated by the victims, and other observers; how can snopes 'debunk' a true story?

I got another email from Sher Zieve, author of the Colmes-Fonda piece. She says that she did a complete search on snopes.com before writing this article, and there is nothing on snopes about this issue at all. The only Fonda story on snopes (which is said to be a bogus story) has to do with a visit that Fonda was supposed to have made to some restaurant in WI or MN awhile ago. That's an urban legend, but NOT the passing of notes by POWs in Vietnam in 1972, during her visit. That story is true, according to the author of this article, and confirmed by her with Colonel Ollie North.

95 posted on 04/10/2005 7:53:52 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Women are powerful; freedom is beautiful.........and STUPID IS FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: CHARLITE; editor-surveyor

Thank you for both of ya'lls posts regarding the snopes.com reference in regards to Jane Fonda and the note passing---

I thought that Ollie looked totally credible the other night when he was arguing with Alan Colmes, but I didn't know anything about snopes.com, so I didn't know how credible it was...

Just like I question when people quote factcheck.com to make a political point, I never know how on the up and up factcheck.org? com? is---do ya'll know about that website also?


96 posted on 04/10/2005 7:58:44 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: CHARLITE; ClearCase_guy; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"I got another email from Sher Zieve, author of the Colmes-Fonda piece. She says that she did a complete search on snopes.com before writing this article, and there is nothing on snopes about this issue at all."

Seems to fit in with everything else that "ClearCase_guy" has posted lately.

97 posted on 04/10/2005 8:01:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: CHARLITE

I never understood all that "Alan is a nice guy" crap. He's a snide lying piece of commie sh*t as far as I'm concerned.


98 posted on 04/10/2005 8:04:56 PM PDT by ozzymandus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Txsleuth; editor-surveyor
There is also http://www.truthorfiction.com

I've heard from more than one student (expert?) on these fast check sites, that snopes.com is often wrong, or not up to speed on issues and stories.......hence not 100% reliable by any means.

99 posted on 04/10/2005 8:05:54 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Women are powerful; freedom is beautiful.........and STUPID IS FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
We need to watch the Hannity comments here...created quite a bit of grief a little while back...

I like Sean, and he does do a lot to awaken the consciences of otherwise unthinking people, but Lord, does he does know how to beat a dead horse (of course he sits next to a horse's ass an hour every day so it may be a defense mechanism at work).

I've actually known some (very shallow) people who started thinking because they listened to him. They started listening to him, "because he's cute."

Whatever it takes, I suppose....

100 posted on 04/10/2005 8:06:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-114 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson