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CAFTA: Exporting American Jobs & Industry
The New American ^ | 04.18.05 | William Norman Grigg

Posted on 04/05/2005 7:03:57 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: hedgetrimmer
"Shades of "from each according to his ability to each according to his need".

Gosh, that sounds a lot like Hillary, she also said, we will have to take away from the few for the common good. (/para). Code words for socialism's redistribution of wealth. Amen.
21 posted on 04/06/2005 6:38:47 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Coleus

What a shocker. The John Birch Society opposes another free trade agreement.


22 posted on 04/06/2005 6:40:49 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Hey, at least it's not JBS ranting about flouride in our drinking water.


23 posted on 04/06/2005 6:47:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dog Gone
"..another free trade agreement."

You have missed the point entirely. These are not simply "trade agreements" but steps toward totalitarian socialism. The JBS is trying to defend your freedom, but if you don't mind being a slave of the new world order, then just keep it up, Dog Gone, and you will have it.

24 posted on 04/06/2005 6:52:15 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Designer
I've read the text of CAFTA. Have you?

It is so heavily in favor of the US that I'm surprised the other countries signed it.

25 posted on 04/06/2005 6:59:06 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

CAFTA agreements mean that US tax dollars will now be sent to FOREIGN SUGAR PRODUCERS as "alternative compensation".

How is that in favor of the US? Maybe it favors some corrupt multinational buddies of the legislature and executive office, but it ain't in favor of the taxpayer who's losing his job then has to pay his competition not to levy sanctions.


26 posted on 04/06/2005 7:37:16 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: 1rudeboy
Hey, at least it's not JBS ranting about flouride in our drinking water

This is so pertintent with the discussion. Thanks for posting.
27 posted on 04/06/2005 7:39:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Coleus

Yawn


28 posted on 04/06/2005 7:39:51 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I'm still chuckling over the fact that this writer fails to understand that most ag-products from the CAFTA-DR area are already imported duty-free under the Caribbean Basin Initiative.
29 posted on 04/06/2005 7:43:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“The U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement will provide a substantial competitive advantage to U.S. agriculture… When the trade agreement is fully implemented, tariffs on U.S. agriculture products imported by CAFTA nations will decrease from between 15 and 43 percent to zero percent. The Farm Bureau estimates CAFTA will result in nearly $900 million in increased U.S. agricultural exports.”
-American Farm Bureau Federation

“This is a great deal for the U.S. cattle industry. We asked the U.S. government to fight for trade initiatives that reduce barriers to access for U.S. beef, and that’s exactly what we are getting with this new agreement.”
-National Cattlemen’s Beef Association

“The Central America nations wanted to exclude pork from the CAFTA but Ambassador Zoellick and Ambassador Johnson, supported completely by President Bush and Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, did not let us down… [W]e are very excited about the CAFTA agreement because it will provide significant new opportunity to our producers.”
-National Pork Producers Council

“…[This] agreement that will not only bring more stability to U.S. poultry exports but provides a positive framework for growth in exports in the years ahead.”
-National Chicken Council

“On the whole, this agreement is a win for the U.S. rice industry. While Central America has been one of our biggest customers, we now have guaranteed market access for rough and milled rice, which is something we did not have before.”
-USA Rice Federation

“The [Central America] region has become in the last few years a very good market for U.S. poultry, and the agreement means that this trend will continue.”
-USA Poultry and Egg Export Council

“The U.S./Central American Free Trade Agreement is a victory for the principles of free and open trade, and it should turn out to be a very positive deal for the turkey industry, for all agriculture in the United States and for all the nations involved in the agreement.”
-National Turkey Federation

“U.S. dairy product suppliers will see substantially greater success in these markets for cheese, ice cream, whey proteins, and milk powder.”
-U.S. Dairy Export Council

“The agreement is a good deal for corn growers and the grains industry overall.”
-National Corn Growers Association

“The agreement will offer immediate duty free access for more than 1 million metric tons of U.S. corn, with tariffs dropping to zero in all four countries within 15 years. The market potential for U.S. feed grains is extremely high and demand will grow due to this historic agreement.”
-U.S. Grains Council

“The Bush administration has reached a monumental milestone for fair trade opportunities for U.S. apples with our neighbors in Central America.”
-U.S. Apple Association

“We are pleased to have the grape tariff elimination included in the agreement and urge Congress to ratify the agreement…This tariff elimination is just the latest example of how the industry works together for the benefit of every fresh grape grower in the state.”
-California Table Grape Commission

“This agreement, if approved by Congress, would allow for additional market access for U.S. potato products to these markets… The reduction of tariffs on fries was a high priority for the potato industry.”
-National Potato Council

“On behalf of U.S. soybean producers, I congratulate the Bush Administration for a job well done. This agreement will solidify our position as the preferred supplier of soybeans and soybean products to these Central American nations. For that we are grateful.”
-American Soybean Association

“It’s going to make it much easier to compete… [T]ariffs range from 14 percent to 28 percent [on apples]… That equates to an additional $2.25 to $4.50 per carton that importers have to pay on our product that they don’t have to pay on the Chilean product…. [S]o we believe that if Congress ratifies this free trade agreement, which is the next step, that this will get us back on competitive footing.”
-Northwest Horticultural Council

“Overall, CAFTA will benefit the food, beverage and consumer products industry. However, if the United States is to maintain its commitment to free trade, it should not create special exceptions that will insulate select commodities such as sugar from free trade.”
-Grocery Manufacturers Association

“The markets in Central America are of growing importance to our members. CAFTA will level the playing field for everyone doing business there and for those Central American companies wanting to do more business in the United States.”
-Pet Food Institute

Quotes of Support from Business and Farm Groups


30 posted on 04/06/2005 7:47:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Clemenza

"Staying in one place for one's entire life reeks of a lack of upward mobility............. and stability for children, life long friendships and schools you choose.

Upward mobility = kids with no roots


31 posted on 04/06/2005 7:49:04 AM PDT by BellStar ("A human being, not a vegetable, did slowly die and not many cared")
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To: billbears
You should be very concerned for your family. CAFTA is a stepping stone to hemispheric integration, which means melding all the countries into a single country, euphemistically known as an "economic zone" Of course a supranational government will have to be established to complete this process, meaning the US Constitution will be rendered obsolete.

Here is what our TRADE REPRESENTATIVE has said about the trade agreements CAFTA and the FTAA. They clearly are driving toward the elimination of national borders and a hemispheric government...

Hemispheric Integration and the FTAA

The original approach to achieving such an FTAA was to negotiate a single, comprehensive, high ambition free trade area among all 34 countries, with appropriate special treatment for smaller, less developed economies.

However, it became apparent that several countries, notably MERCOSUR, were not in a position at this time to agree to such an ambitious and comprehensive package.

Last November in Miami, the trade ministers established two paths to trade liberalization in the FTAA, beginning with the Common Set of Rights and Obligations which would apply to all 34 countries.The Common Set(1)This common set of benefits and obligations, applicable to all countries, means at this point in time that all countries must accept more modest levels of ambition to take account of the different sensitivities among

Although progress on the FTAA has been measured, the United States has been actively pursuing bilateral free trade agreements (FTAs) in the hemisphere. The U.S.-Chile FTA is now in effect and proving its worth to both countries. •We concluded talks earlier this year on a U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA.The U.S.-Chile FTA is now in effect and proving its worth to both countries.

We concluded talks earlier this year on a U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA. Talks to integrate the Dominican Republic into CAFTA were wrapped up a few weeks ago.

Talks with Panama are already underway this week and those with the Andean countries will begin in mid-May. These bilaterals are not just a path for bilateral trade liberalization with the United States, but are stepping-stones toward hemispheric integration.

Remarks of Peter F. AllgeierDeputy U.S. Trade RepresentativeBrazil Summit 2004U.S.-Brazil Relations in the Context of the FTAA NegotiationsNew York April 27, 2004

32 posted on 04/06/2005 8:13:02 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Conclusion of the Chile FTA has provided momentum to other hemispheric and global trade liberalization efforts by breaking ground on new issues and demonstrating what a 21st century trade agreement should be. We continue to move forward with the centerpiece of our hemispheric integration strategy, the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). We maintain our strong commitment to the negotiation of a comprehensive and robust FTAA by January of 2005. We already have followed up on our success with Chile by launching historic negotiations toward a free trade agreement (the so-called CAFTA) between the United States and the nations of the Central America economic integration system: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. The U.S.-Chile FTA and the CAFTA will serve as building blocks for the FTAA. They will give both sides greater access to others’ markets at an earlier date than is possible under the FTAA. At the same time, these bilateral FTAs strengthen ties and integration, demonstrating the additional benefits available through the FTAA.

Statement of Regina K. Vargo
Assistant U.S. Trade Representative for the Americas
Senate Committee on the Judiciary
July 14, 2003
33 posted on 04/06/2005 8:16:47 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Coleus

another "stop the world, i wanna get off" article.

dem-commie or pubbie global trade is coming.


34 posted on 04/06/2005 8:19:26 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + then you don't hear from them again. /s)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I don't remember reading anything in CAFTA about sending tax dollars to any country. I do remember how it requires the Central American companies to stop their government monopolies over such things as telecommunications and insurance and allow American companies to compete for business down there.


35 posted on 04/06/2005 8:26:58 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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When the draft text of CAFTA was first made available on January 28, 2004, these states discovered they were bound by the 2,400-page agreement and were specifically listed in Chapter 9. A third have since rescinded their support of CAFTA.

The governors are hearing from their state legislators who are beginning to understand how these foreign-trade agreements usurp the states' constitutional and legislative powers. These agreements take away state legislative authority over regulating utilities, controlling land use, and the granting of taxpayer-funded contracts.

Last fall, a WTO tribunal outlawed Utah's ban on gambling, opening the door to millions of dollars in penalties against all states with anti-gambling regulations. Antigua and Barbuda had charged that Utah's ban on gambling violated America's obligation not to discriminate against foreigners providing "recreational services."

CAFTA includes hundreds of pages of grants of vague authority to foreign tribunals. It wouldn't take a very activist foreign judge to read his own interpretation into language that requires us to use the "least trade-restrictive" regulations and to change our laws so they are "no more burdensome than necessary."

Meanwhile, states are feeling the heat from their constituents who discovered that some state agencies were paying out taxpayers' money to corporations that outsource their labor, particularly programmers, engineers and call-center workers. Anti-outsourcing bills have been introduced in 35 states.

It is clear that CAFTA would prevent any state that has "signed on" from giving preference to in-state contractors or prohibiting tax dollars from going to contractors who outsource jobs. Any Central American country could file a complaint, and the state would have to rely on its defense by the U.S. Government that has already agreed to CAFTA's rules.

The pro-CAFTA lobby's promise of big trade with the CAFTA countries is a pipe dream. How can anyone expect customers for U.S. products from countries where half the people live below the poverty line and the hourly wages are often below 50 cents per hour?

El Salvador's principal exports to the United States are its vicious MS-13 and other street gangs. Hundreds of these young criminals have brought an unprecedented level of murder, violence, mutilation, and brutality to cities all over our country.

The real purpose of CAFTA is to allow multinational corporations to exploit the abundance of cheap labor and the scarcity of taxes and safety regulations in CAFTA countries. CAFTA will increase our $58 billion job-killing U.S. trade deficit and further weaken our already suffering dollar.

--CAFTA Is A Bad Deal For The United States


36 posted on 04/06/2005 8:32:57 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Dog Gone
I think what hedgetrimmer means is that CAFTA-DR makes it easier for organizations such as The U.S. Agency for International Development, The U.S. Trade and Development Agency (why do we have two of these?), etc., to channel funds to specific projects. I don't think there is anything in the agreement per se about "wealth redistribution," to use a Bircher term.
37 posted on 04/06/2005 8:34:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The main feature of CAFTA is that it phases out the tariffs those countries impose on our exports, while we currently have none on their products which we import.

How can anyone be against that?

The other feature is that it opens their economies up to competition from American companies. That's good for us and it's good for them.

38 posted on 04/06/2005 8:42:55 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: hedgetrimmer
How can anyone expect customers for U.S. products from countries where half the people live below the poverty line and the hourly wages are often below 50 cents per hour?
--Phyllis Schlafly

Central America and the Dominican Republic make up the 2nd-largest U.S. export market in Latin America, behind only Mexico. The U.S. exports more than $15 billion annually to the region, making it America’s 10th-largest export market worldwide*; CAFTA-DR is a larger U.S. export market than Russia, India and Indonesia combined.
*Assumes EU is one market

Source: Overview: The Case for CAFTA

39 posted on 04/06/2005 8:42:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dog Gone
How can anyone be against that?

First, one must believe that "we don' build or sell nuthin', nowheres, no how." Second, factor-in a good dose of confusion about terms such as "hemispheric integration." Finally, add a spice of paranoia and a fear of statistics.

40 posted on 04/06/2005 8:48:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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