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CAFTA: Exporting American Jobs & Industry
The New American ^ | 04.18.05 | William Norman Grigg

Posted on 04/05/2005 7:03:57 PM PDT by Coleus

CAFTA: Exporting American Jobs & Industry
by William Norman Grigg

The New American, April 18, 2005

CAFTA, a forerunner of an "EU of the Americas," trades away American jobs in the name of rewarding Latin American "democracies."

Allen Johnson, chief agricultural negotiator for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, was enjoying his vacation in late February when he received a panicky call from the White House. The mid-year meeting of the National Association of State Departments of Agriculture (NASDA) was on the verge of delivering a stinging rebuke to the Bush administration by passing a resolution opposing the proposed Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA).

CAFTA would build on the three-nation North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) by expanding the trade bloc to include Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and the Dominican Republic. Congressional ratification of CAFTA is coveted by the White House, its political allies in Central America, and politically connected corporate interests who stand to profit from outsourcing production to low-wage nations in the region. It is stoutly opposed by U.S. agricultural and textile producers, who are reeling from the economic impact of NAFTA and are understandably worried that CAFTA would trigger another flood of imports and another hemorrhage of industrial jobs. Most importantly, since the agreement would further undermine our nation's ability to control its economic destiny, it has prompted opposition from Americans who seek to preserve our national independence.

As a February 26 AP report noted: "CAFTA is the most significant multilateral pact for the United States since the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada more than a decade ago. It is seen as crucial to the greater goal of establishing a free trade zone for all the Western Hemisphere." The supposed hemispheric "free trade zone," the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), would actually be an embryonic mega-state modeled after the socialistic European Union (EU). The EU, it is important to remember, was initially sold to the European public as a "free trade" area, as well.

Having succeeded in moving several bilateral free trade agreements through Congress in its first term, the Bush administration "faces its toughest test" in seeking approval for CAFTA. According to CAFTA supporter Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas), passage of the agreement is "difficult but doable."

Congressional Quarterly reported that Republican congressional leaders in both houses are preparing to hold hearings on CAFTA. The hearings would be followed by "a non-binding advisory markup" in which House and Senate committees would "draft the implementing legislation that the administration will send to Congress for an up-or-down vote." Under so-called fast track rules, noted Congressional Quarterly on March 14, "a 90-day clock for congressional approval starts ticking when the administration officially sends the legislation to Congress."

The Bush administration was painfully aware that winning congressional approval for CAFTA would require strangling the opposition before it found a public voice. Thus Allen Johnson was summoned back to Washington to address the meeting of state agriculture officials in an attempt to persuade them not to denounce CAFTA.

By the time Allen Johnson had been bundled into a Washington-bound jet to address NASDA on February 21, the group's Marketing and International Trade Committee had unanimously (with two abstentions) adopted a resolution opposing CAFTA. Although he prostrated himself shamelessly before the group's general assembly, Johnson was not successful in convincing the required two-thirds majority to overturn its Marketing and International Trade Committee's anti-CAFTA resolution. He was also unsuccessful in persuading the group to keep news of its disagreement with the White House out of the press.

"Fat chance," commented syndicated agricultural affairs analyst Alan Guebert. "The vote sent shockwaves through the usually pro-trade NASDA, whose members literally know the lay of the food and farm land in their home states. That's their job; looking farmers and ranchers in the eye every day. On February 19 … almost half of them looked in the mirror and said, 'My producers are right; CAFTA is wrong.' Moments later, the White House fire bell rang." According to Delaware Agriculture Secretary Michael Scuse, vice chairman of the NASDA committee that condemned CAFTA, "we're more concerned about how CAFTA affects farmers than how it affects trade."

"Free Trade" — or Foreign Aid?

Chief among the objections offered by NASDA and many other CAFTA critics is the fact that the supposed "free trade" agreement would impose what amounts to unilateral trade disarmament on U.S. agricultural producers. The six foreign nations included in the pact would be granted immediate access to U.S. food markets. However, U.S. producers would have to wait for years, or even decades, in order to be granted reciprocal access.

If, as expected, the FTAA follows the CAFTA model by opening U.S. domestic markets first, with access to foreign markets coming only years later, the results for U.S. farmers would be nothing less than devastating. During the prescribed interval, Guebert observes, "nations like Brazil, Russia and India will become food exporting powerhouses to both the U.S. and the world while American farmers become calendar watchers."

If the point of CAFTA is to promote free exchange of goods and services between producers and consumers, why is the pact designed to offer artificial competitive advantages to foreign food producers? Rather than promoting what could honestly be called free trade, CAFTA amounts to a foreign aid program — using nonreciprocal access to U.S. markets as a roundabout subsidy for agricultural programs in foreign nations.

And this is hardly the only way in which CAFTA amounts to a foreign aid scheme disguised as a "free trade" initiative. The Bush administration and its pro-CAFTA allies habitually refer to the pact as a means of promoting economic "development" and building "democratic institutions" in Central America. This refrain was featured prominently in a hastily assembled nationwide tour of ambassadors from the CAFTA nations.

"Ambassadors and officials from Central America made a passionate plea in Seattle … for U.S. passage of a regional trade deal they see as a vital tool to help lift their countries out of poverty," reported the February 25 Seattle Times. "While acknowledging that CAFTA isn't perfect, the officials said it is a vital tool for development and forms part of a package of government and market changes that would promote stability and democracy, and energize the economies of the Central American nations."

Roxane Premont of the Citizens Committee to Stop the FTAA (an ad hoc project of the John Birch Society, of which this magazine is an affiliate) attended a session of the "CAFTA Roadshow" in Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, where participants preached exactly the same message. "They definitely offered the argument that CAFTA was vital as a way of promoting economic development in Central America," Mrs. Premont told THE NEW AMERICAN. "Several of the speakers emphasized the idea that we should use CAFTA as a form of foreign aid, rewarding these 'emerging democracies' in the region."

It's important to recognize that economic growth is a result of production, not consumption. Thus the logic of the "trade as foreign aid" argument dictates that CAFTA is intended to promote the importation of goods from Central America, rather than the export of U.S. goods to the region.

Pro-CAFTA Congressman Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) describes the region as "a potentially significant trading bloc with the United States." However, the aggregate economy of the six CAFTA nations is minuscule. "Add up the six CAFTA economies and you get a market the size of New Haven, Connecticut," points out trade analyst Alan Tonelson of the U.S. Business and Industry Council.

Assistant U.S. Trade Representative Christopher Padilla insists that while the CAFTA nations are small, "they are actually very big markets for our products. In fact, we trade more with Central America than we trade with Brazil or Australia." If that claim were true, it would make CAFTA redundant — assuming, once again, that promotion of free trade is the desired result.

However, as Tonelson writes, "U.S. exports to the CAFTA [nations] are dominated by what might be called 'turnaround exports.' That is to say, exports that are not final products which are actually consumed abroad, but parts and components of final products that are assembled or further processed abroad, and then shipped right back for consumption in the United States. As a result, they don't service net new demand in foreign markets — which eventually would require domestic employers to expand production, hire new workers, and boost wages. They service the same old demand in the same old market — America's."

Put in the simplest terms, the CAFTA nations are an economically stagnant population of 46 million people, more than half of whom live below the poverty level (as defined by their standard of living, not ours). Costa Rica, the wealthiest CAFTA nation, has a per-capita GDP of $9,000 — roughly one-quarter of ours. Every nation other than Costa Rica displays net emigration, meaning that their citizens are leaving home in search of economic opportunity.

Is this the raw material of a potentially lucrative U.S. export market — or a low-wage population that will act as a magnet for further outsourcing of our embattled manufacturing sector? Tonelson concludes that CAFTA is a "classic outsourcing agreement" — an arrangement in which the only significant U.S. export would be manufacturing jobs to poor, low-wage nations.

According to CAFTA supporters, this is precisely why it's important to ratify the accord. Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) insists that CAFTA is a proper reward to Central American nations that "have emerged from years of war and dictatorial rule to make major steps toward promoting democracy and human rights," reported the AP. "Kicking them down the ladder would be a major mistake," insisted the congressman. Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) makes a similar point, stating that his "primary" reason for supporting CAFTA is his belief that the agreement would "spur U.S. investment … and promote economic development in the region."

Of course, Reps. Brady and Flake, like scores of other congressmen who express support for CAFTA, were elected to represent the interests of U.S. citizens, not the interests of Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, or the Dominican Republic. Nor is promoting "economic development" in foreign lands at the expense of American prosperity among Congress's constitutional responsibilities — a fact that voters should impress on the minds of their representatives before CAFTA is brought to a vote. Moreover, even if the purpose were to help poor peoples in foreign lands improve their standards of living, the long-term solution can only be found in political and economic freedom, not in pulling the U.S. down.

"No" on CAFTA Is "Yes" to China?

Approval of CAFTA would offer, at best, negligible economic benefits to the U.S. — and very likely inflict severe damage to our already suffering industrial sector. This much is obvious to anyone who invests a minimal amount of time to examine the mathematics of the proposition. Knowing that the positive case for CAFTA is nonexistent, the Bush administration and its allies have chosen to accentuate the negative by playing the China card. Reports CNN correspondent Christine Romans: "In Washington, CAFTA supporters call a vote against CAFTA a vote for China."

In January, the World Trade Organization (WTO) lifted the worldwide system of nation-based textile import quotas. This resulted in an immediate surge in textile exports from China, and the beginning of what the August 5, 2004 Christian Science Monitor predicted would be "a massive transfer of jobs and wealth in the developing world over the next few years." The Chinese textile tsunami stands to wipe out what remains of the U.S. textile industry, as well as thousands of low-wage jobs in the six CAFTA nations.

Assistant U.S. Trade Representative Christopher Padilla, the Bush administration's point man for CAFTA, insists that "only by uniting together through CAFTA will the textile makers in the Southeast states and apparel makers in Central America be able to face the oncoming competition from China.... A vote against CAFTA is a vote against U.S. textiles and a vote for China."

There really is no choice, former U.S. Rep. Cass Ballenger (R-N.C.) told textile manufacturers during a CAFTA tour stop in Raleigh, North Carolina. Citing the WTO's action in lifting Chinese textile import quotas, he emphasized: a vote against CAFTA is a vote for China. This refrain was immediately taken up by other participants in the nationwide pro-CAFTA tour. A vote against CAFTA is a vote in favor of China, recited El Salvador's ambassador Rene Rodriguez. A vote against CAFTA is a vote for China, echoed Costa Rican ambassador Tomás Duenas.

"The bottom line is the Chinese are eating our lunch," stated Mark Smith, managing director of Western Hemisphere affairs for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which favors the agreement. "They will do it with or without CAFTA. The question remains how much lunch there will be left for them to eat." According to Keith Crisco, CEO at Asheboro Elastics of North Carolina, the alternative to enactment of CAFTA would be "Asia wiping that place off the map." For this reason — can you guess what comes next? — "a vote against CAFTA is a vote for China."

Representative Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.), whose district is heavily dependent on the textile industry, finds the CAFTA-China refrain both tiresome and unconvincing. "I've heard that plenty of times, and I'm certainly not convinced," Rep. Foxx told THE NEW AMERICAN. "While I certainly don't want to lose our markets to China, the fact is that it was NAFTA that practically wiped us out — and CAFTA would do even more damage than NAFTA did."

"Most of the people in my district are very opposed to CAFTA for economic reasons, although there are some [textile] industry people who sincerely think it represents the best of several bad options," she continued. But she opposes the pact not only because of the damage it will do to our economy, but also because of the threat it represents to our imperiled national independence. "I have concerns about our involvement in any kind of international arrangement of this sort that undermines our sovereignty — whether it's NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO, or certainly the United Nations," she explained.

Once the role that CAFTA would play in a WTO-administered global economic regime is recognized, the breathtaking cynicism of the Bush administration's pro-CAFTA "China card" becomes apparent.

During a special "lame-duck" session in 1994, Congress ratified U.S. membership in the WTO. This resulted in what GOP congressional leader (and then-incoming House Speaker) Newt Gingrich described as "a very big transfer of power" from Congress to the global trade body. In committee testimony, Gingrich — who supported the WTO — told his colleagues, "we need to be honest about the fact that we are transferring from the United States at a practical level significant authority to a new organization. This is a transformational moment."

The scope of that transformation was described in Our Global Neighborhood, the 1995 report of the UN-aligned Commission on Global Governance. The WTO, explained that august body, is "a crucial building block for global economic governance.... The WTO and advanced regional groups such as the EU will increasingly be faced with the issue that will dominate the international agenda in years to come: how to create rules for deep integration that go way beyond what has traditionally been thought of as 'trade.'"

The "regional groups" referred to above include NAFTA, as well as CAFTA and the FTAA, if and when the latter come into being. They would be regional affiliates of a WTO-managed global economy, in which our government would be required to implement economic policies established by unaccountable socialist bureaucrats in Geneva.

Essentially the same people who promoted the WTO are now telling us that we have no choice but to encourage Congress to approve CAFTA — which would be a regional affiliate of that same WTO.

Stop CAFTA!

The Bush administration is clearly frantic about CAFTA's prospects in Congress. Witness Allen Johnson's hasty deployment to try to stop NASDA's anti-CAFTA resolution. Another illustration is found in the nomination of former Ohio Republican Congressman Rob Portman to serve as U.S. trade representative. A Capitol Hill source told THE NEW AMERICAN that Portman was chosen "specifically because the Bush administration believes that Portman's connections in Congress will help push CAFTA through."

This view is shared by Jamal Abu-Rashed, chairman of the economics department at Xavier University, who told the Cincinnati Post that "the push to enact the Central American Free Trade Agreement needed a congressional insider to get legislators who have become wary of job losses from sweeping trade treaties behind the pact." "Congress has been less enthusiastic about trade lately because of the job impacts," stated Abu-Rashed. "Bush wants somebody to resist Congress' efforts to resist [trade pacts]."

Congress displays remarkable composure about the loss of American jobs and the steady surrender of our sovereignty to regional bodies. However, congressmen take immediate alarm when their own jobs are threatened. Americans must make it clear to their congressional representatives that if they vote for CAFTA, they will be given the chance to explore new career opportunities in the private sector they are doing so much to destroy.

Keystone to Convergence
By William Norman Grigg

A keystone is the crucial piece holding together two sections of an elaborate structure. If it is removed, the structure will collapse. If it's not put in place, the structure cannot be built. CAFTA plays that precise role in the planned hemispheric merger through the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA).

Through NAFTA, the United States, Mexico, and Canada are being rapidly merged into a single economic and political bloc. On March 14, shortly before President Bush met with Mexican leader Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin at a trinational summit in Texas, the Council on Foreign Relations released a report calling for the creation of a "North American Economic and Security Community" by 2010. The key points of that report were reiterated in a March 28 New York Times op-ed by Rafael Fernandez de Castro and Rossana Fuentes Berain, editor and managing editor of Foreign Affairs en Español (a Spanish-language publication of the Council on Foreign Relations).

Invoking Jean Monnet, founder of the European Union, the Mexican authors declared: "We must move beyond just managing trade and into constructing a new relationship … [intended] to bring a North American community closer to reality." Referring to the recent trinational summit, the authors predicted: "Maybe, just maybe, the men gathered at the Crawford ranch could someday be seen as the Jean Monnets of their age, the founding fathers of the North American Community."

But the vision behind the Crawford summit encompasses the entire hemisphere.

Speaking on March 23, President Bush explained: "In order to make sure the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas has a chance to succeed, it is important to show the sovereign nations in South America that trade has worked amongst the three of us." He also pointedly referred to CAFTA as "an important part" of this process of hemispheric merger, demanding that "Congress … make sure that they approve CAFTA this year."

But if the CAFTA keystone isn't put in place, the grand vision of an EU-style megastate will lose its forward momentum. This is why CAFTA must be defeated.

Why CAFTA Must Be Defeated

  • Taken together, the six CAFTA nations have a minuscule consumer economy — but represent a huge pool of low-wage labor. Thus the only export encouraged by CAFTA would be U.S. manufacturing jobs.
  • CAFTA is a critical steppingstone toward creation of a 34-nation Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), an embryonic regional government modeled after the socialistic European Union.
  • Under CAFTA, barriers to agricultural imports from our "trading partners" would be removed immediately, while barriers to U.S. exports wouldn't be lifted for anywhere from 10-20 years — thereby crippling U.S. agricultural producers. And this precedent would almost certainly be followed in the FTAA.
  • Promoters of CAFTA clearly perceive the pact to be a form of foreign aid to "emerging democracies" in Central America — tacitly recognizing that it wouldn't result in genuine free trade, but rather a huge transfer of wealth from the U.S. to the region.

What You Can Do

  • For more information on CAFTA and what you can do to stop it, including congressional contact information, go to: www.stopcafta.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 04/05/2005 7:03:57 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: hedgetrimmer

Ping!


2 posted on 04/05/2005 7:06:57 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Coleus

Bump for later.


3 posted on 04/05/2005 7:23:44 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Coleus

I can't wait to here the spin on how this is a good thing.

No, no, we can all be a nation of pencil pushers, we don't need industry. (sarcasm)


4 posted on 04/05/2005 7:28:43 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: Coleus

Between environmental rules and regs and the cost of labor, I suspect many companies are actively looking for business friendly environments. Nobody wants to be branded a criminal just for trying to run a business. Heck, robbing national secrets is more honorable, if we look at the punishments - ask Sandy Berger.


5 posted on 04/05/2005 7:49:58 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: caisson71
Sandy Berger <<

He gets off with a slap on the wrist, will get his clearance back in time for the Hillary presidency while Martha goes to jail for 5 months for only lying to a fed.
6 posted on 04/05/2005 8:03:30 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: monkeywrench

Here's one back at you!

As China sews, few U.S. mills left
By Patrik Jonsson, The Christian Science Monitor
ERWIN, N.C. — The town of Erwin once proudly proclaimed itself the "Denim Capital of the World."
Workers stamped "Hong Kong" and "Tel Aviv" on bolts of high-grade denim as two mills supplied the world with overalls, bell-bottoms, and hip-huggers.

Times certainly change with the fashion.

Today, the looms have fallen silent. Textile jobs here have fallen from a peak of 2,500 to zero. And as this North Carolina town struggles to define its future, its plight suggests a harsh reality: One of America's bedrock industries appears increasingly near extinction, threatening a way of life that has allowed blue-collar communities to stitch together a patchwork of prosperity.

The decline of textile jobs, while familiar, is generating fresh concern this year thanks to a flood of newly legalized imports from China. The Bush administration, responding to industry complaints and a tripling in the rate of mill closures, said this week that it will investigate whether Chinese imports are disrupting the U.S. market. The move could result in reimposed quotas.

But as that process moves forward, the case of Erwin is a reminder of the nearly inexorable nature of the challenge. The last mill here closed five years ago, long before China's competitive potential was unleashed on world apparel markets. The threat from Shanghai and Souzhou now adds to worries that many of America's remaining 677,000 textile and apparel jobs — down from 1.6 million in 1994 — could face a similar fate.

"Ten years ago when NAFTA and GATT [free-trade agreements] were implemented, there was a feeling of, 'We're going to fight it,' " says Mike Walden, an economist at North Carolina State University in Raleigh. "Now there's a changed view, a mixture of resignation and reality. Young people know they don't have a future going into the textile mills, and the big question is what will those towns morph into and what will those people be doing 10 years from now?"

Indeed, the end of global textile quotas in January has already prompted apparel imports from China to more than double — in both volume and value — from last year's pace. Americans bought some $1.4 billion in Chinese apparel in January and February. Cotton shirt imports alone are up more than 1,200% — a number that reflects China's small but fast-rising share of the market. The Asian nation accounts for 2% of cotton-shirt imports, versus 23% for Honduras and 13% Mexico.

With the U.S. importing some 400 million garments in 60 days, which on average sell 78% cheaper than what a Piedmont loomshop can manage — Erwin's plight takes on a new resonance.

The orderly and tight-knit "mill hills" that defined the South's densely populated rural areas became some of America's first planned communities.

In essence, this is where the Southern middle class began, as modern towns with theaters, newspapers, and conveniences cropped up around the mills, and where residents mortgaged cows to buy sewing machines.

E.M. Barefoot, now a trucking supervisor, was the last employee to walk out of a 100-year-old mill when it closed.

As he brushes his dog, Dusty, the third-generation mill worker explains that his paycheck has fallen by $20,000 a year at his new job. "Nine out of 10 people would go back to work at the mill in a heartbeat," he says.

To be sure, ever since manufacturing employment began waning after World War II, workers have been assured that new jobs and industries would replace the looms and dye rooms. Hiring by government, tourism, and biotech firms has picked up much of the slack of some 176,000 lost textile jobs in North Carolina.

But as telecommunications and tech jobs collapsed in 2001, the promise of the new jobs faded, economists say.

"Wherever you have a mill community relatively intact, the promise is there of reknitting it back together," says Lynn Rumley, the director of Textile Heritage Center in Cooloomee, N.C. "But the question is what's going to be the anchor — or will there even be an anchor?"

In embattled North Carolina towns like Kannapolis, Cliffside, and Erwin, the only thing growing in the textile business appears to be historical reckoning of a trade that defined the rural South for nearly a century. The daily rites of mills were defined both by the crows of roosters and dependable bursts of factory whistles.

"There are misconceptions in Washington and nationally that these are yesterday's jobs, that better jobs are on the way," says Cass Johnson, president of the National Council of Textile Organizations in Washington. "But there's been a realization in the last five years that if someone loses one of these jobs, they get a worse job, lower wages, and less-satisfying work. It's no longer a good bargain."

Yet the larger picture is not so simple, say economists pushing free trade. Unlike Japan in the 1980s, China is importing nearly as much as it's exporting today — which means many American textile firms have been able to flourish as middle men even as they close mills. And lower prices on imported goods are helping millions of American consumers.

What's more, the seeping of mill jobs is part of a global commoditization of labor that began in the mid-1800s when New England began undercutting European mills, and turning tissue de Nimes — fabric from Nimes — into American "denim."

China's rising role as a clothier is disrupting jobs in many developing nations, not just the U.S.. "These industries are inherently mobile over a long period of time," says Will Martin, lead economist at the World Bank. "China's done wonderfully as it's moved to a market economy and has managed to lift 400 million people out of poverty."

A U.S. interagency panel on textile trade voted Monday to launch investigations regarding China in three clothing categories: cotton knit shirts and blouses; cotton trousers; and underwear made of cotton and man-made fibers. At the same time, Congress will soon start debating a new Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA. While some say this deal will help American firms compete with the Chinese, critics say it won't level a playing field tilted steeply against American workers, both internationally and the homefront.

In the U.S., despite state offers to retrain laid-off "lintheads" for new jobs — finding good matches isn't easy, especially for older workers. One of Mr. Barefoot's colleagues from the mill went back to school to become a machinist but never found work. Barefoot hired him last month to work in the trucking department he now manages. "He hadn't had a job since the mill closed."

Some mill towns have been bulldozed, others are slums. But in Cooleemee, drug stores still "carry" customers who are short on cash.

Some who left for other jobs when mills closed are starting to return home. Many older residents never left, even though they lack jobs. "The last thing you could persuade them to do is to move," says Reno Bailey, a former millworker in Cliffside, N.C. "It's a dilemma."


7 posted on 04/05/2005 8:31:17 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: stainlessbanner
In essence, this is where the Southern middle class began, as modern towns with theaters, newspapers, and conveniences cropped up around the mills, and where residents mortgaged cows to buy sewing machines.

Free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA are destroying American culture, IMO. They render whole groups of people unemployed and force them to disperse as they look for work elsewhere.
8 posted on 04/05/2005 8:37:20 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Yawn, those "Nawth Caroliiiiina" mill towns stole all the factories from New England. Then they went south to Latin America. Now textile mills are closing in Latin America as the industry has moved to China.


9 posted on 04/05/2005 10:17:12 PM PDT by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: hedgetrimmer
America has become a nation of nomads my friend. Do you thing I REALLY want to live in Seattle? I do so to advance in my career, however.

Staying in one place for one's entire life reeks of a lack of upward mobility.

10 posted on 04/05/2005 10:18:22 PM PDT by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Clemenza
I gather you don't have a clear understanding of how the WTO works. You see, the industries move to foreign countries out of America because the WTO brokers trade agreements, and enforces them with tribunals and fines, to give the competitive edge to "poor countries" or "least developed countries". Those phrases are in quotes because they are straight out of the WTO and the United Nations policies. The WTO and the trade agreements they broker are all about redistributing wealth to "poor countries", weakening our patent and intellectual property laws so that "poor countries" pay less and the American people pay more to make up the difference. Shades of "from each according to his ability to each according to his need".

A Chinese economist wrote a few years ago that the global trading system that has been implemented by the socialist WTO would cause a sort of "law of the jungle" with capital chasing cheaper and cheaper labor until only slavery would exist. Certainly that can happen with China, as a portion of their workforce is slave labor. But the unintended(or is it intended?) consequence of this "law of the jungle" has brought slavery back to the United States. You see, due to US trade policies, and the NAFTA, the open borders have allowed human traffickers to smuggle in at least 140,000 people who are considered by federal agencies to be slaves. They fit the definition. The number is also likely grossly underestimated.

So you support this global trading system that has managed to bring slavery back to the US 140 years after it was abolished?

The mills are closing because they have been engineered to close via the global socialists at the WTO. The global socialists wield enormous power over the American people... because the treaties and agreements undermine the Constitution and individual constitutional rights at every turn. They have caused Congress to abdicate their constitutional duty to regulate trade and unlawfully given it over to a global body populated with socialist, communist and totalitarian members. You may be making money off this sellout, but no country's leadership in their right minds would sell out their people by voluntarily giving the competitive edge in trade agreements to a third world country. No leadership except ours.

Why do they do it? Many of our leadership have been corrupted by the globalists "vision" of trillion dollar trading blocs and the power they can wield that escapes our national boundaries. Others still, like former president clinton and some members of Congress are global socialists, the redistribution of American wealth to them is like using the American economy as their own personal charity. Have you ever looked at the number of congressmen, members of the executive office including the president and his family who benefit financially from investments in China and other communist countries? Don't you see there is a conflict of interest when they vote on treaties that benefit foreign governments(and their investment accounts) over the American people? They are destabilizing the social and political order of the world, it is the "wrenching transformation" that Al Gore told Americans we would suffer. By capitulating or supporting the trade policies that put your own people at a competitive disadvantage speaks to the utter corruption in our government and a moral decay in our citizens-- many of whom have forgotten or never learned the founding principles of our country.
11 posted on 04/05/2005 11:52:01 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Clemenza
Staying in one place for one's entire life reeks of a lack of upward mobility.

The American way is to let people live their lives as they see fit. Some Americans have had family in this country for 400 years. They harbor deep attachments to their homes and their family histories. They maintain the cultural fabric, if you will, of Amnerican society, because they have long reaching memory into America's past. They add value to the American experience that is more profound than mere consumerism and rootlessness. If upward mobility is the only purpose in life for some Americans let them be. But let others be who find a different purpose for life. They are worthy too.
12 posted on 04/05/2005 11:59:40 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Coleus

Racing toward totalitarianism, control people's food, water, jobs, property, wages, and there you have it, slavery.

We have become too lazy, ignorant, and lack the will to rock our comfy little lives before the trap door slams.
Most people are just in denial, "Can't happen here" are famous last words, said by many nations and civilizations that are no longer with us.


13 posted on 04/06/2005 12:00:57 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: hedgetrimmer

dittos


14 posted on 04/06/2005 12:03:06 AM PDT by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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To: Clemenza
Here are the words of a gobal socialists who was formerly the director general of the WTO. I have translated a few phrases you might not be familiar with:

By arguing that trade has an important role to play in creating an economic environment more favourable to sustainable development global socialism or social justice redistrubution of wealth through socialism, I am not arguing that the link is somehow automatic or inevitable. A free global market, for example, can do little to ensure that air, water or energy resources are accurately priced for sustainable development create shortages so the people can be more easily controlled as long as no mechanisms exists to internalize environmental costs. In the same way, trade liberalization is a hugely powerful engine for economic growth, but it can do little by itself to guarantee that wealth will be equitably distributed rich countries must give their money away to poor countries. The essential point is that environmental and social policies are needed to redistribute the benefits that trade brings and to target particular public goals targeted wealth redistribution in a manner selected by the WTO. And in our increasingly integrated world, many of these policy solutions will have to be as global in scope as the global economy they must now address.

"The future of the world trading system"

RENATO RUGGIERO, FORMER DG
15 posted on 04/06/2005 12:17:02 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Excellent post, hedgetrimmer!


16 posted on 04/06/2005 5:12:30 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: billbears; Constitution Day

ping


17 posted on 04/06/2005 5:13:29 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: hedgetrimmer; stainlessbanner; azhenfud
Have a buddy that lives in the Dunn-Erwin area and I currently live just up the road from there. It has indeed changed. I believe in free trade but I'm not sure I believe NAFTA or CAFTA promotes true free trade.

BTW, I grew up in Gaston County, once the 'Textile Capital of the World' and it's the same there as well. As for these 'new' jobs that are being created, I just don't see them. Sure, there are enough commercials each day for this new training, government provided of course, but as the article you posted states. The salary is much lower. Of course that doesn't matter to politicians. As long as it seems they are doing something, that's all that matters.

Thanks Giddy!!!!

18 posted on 04/06/2005 6:29:18 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: RepublicMan4U
I can't wait to here the spin on how this is a good thing.

It will free up the middle class to go fight on foreign soil.

19 posted on 04/06/2005 6:32:56 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Clemenza
Staying in one place for one's entire life reeks of a lack of upward mobility.

Both sides of my family have been in this state since 1729. And each generation has built upon the foundations of the last to grow professionally and culturally. I hope my children will be able to do the same and their children after them. God willing, they will never leave this state either. While we may not reach the 'top' in your fashion, it will be done just the same. There are some things more important than 'upward mobility'

20 posted on 04/06/2005 6:34:19 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Shades of "from each according to his ability to each according to his need".

Gosh, that sounds a lot like Hillary, she also said, we will have to take away from the few for the common good. (/para). Code words for socialism's redistribution of wealth. Amen.
21 posted on 04/06/2005 6:38:47 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Coleus

What a shocker. The John Birch Society opposes another free trade agreement.


22 posted on 04/06/2005 6:40:49 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Hey, at least it's not JBS ranting about flouride in our drinking water.


23 posted on 04/06/2005 6:47:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dog Gone
"..another free trade agreement."

You have missed the point entirely. These are not simply "trade agreements" but steps toward totalitarian socialism. The JBS is trying to defend your freedom, but if you don't mind being a slave of the new world order, then just keep it up, Dog Gone, and you will have it.

24 posted on 04/06/2005 6:52:15 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Designer
I've read the text of CAFTA. Have you?

It is so heavily in favor of the US that I'm surprised the other countries signed it.

25 posted on 04/06/2005 6:59:06 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

CAFTA agreements mean that US tax dollars will now be sent to FOREIGN SUGAR PRODUCERS as "alternative compensation".

How is that in favor of the US? Maybe it favors some corrupt multinational buddies of the legislature and executive office, but it ain't in favor of the taxpayer who's losing his job then has to pay his competition not to levy sanctions.


26 posted on 04/06/2005 7:37:16 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: 1rudeboy
Hey, at least it's not JBS ranting about flouride in our drinking water

This is so pertintent with the discussion. Thanks for posting.
27 posted on 04/06/2005 7:39:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Coleus

Yawn


28 posted on 04/06/2005 7:39:51 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I'm still chuckling over the fact that this writer fails to understand that most ag-products from the CAFTA-DR area are already imported duty-free under the Caribbean Basin Initiative.
29 posted on 04/06/2005 7:43:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“The U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement will provide a substantial competitive advantage to U.S. agriculture… When the trade agreement is fully implemented, tariffs on U.S. agriculture products imported by CAFTA nations will decrease from between 15 and 43 percent to zero percent. The Farm Bureau estimates CAFTA will result in nearly $900 million in increased U.S. agricultural exports.”
-American Farm Bureau Federation

“This is a great deal for the U.S. cattle industry. We asked the U.S. government to fight for trade initiatives that reduce barriers to access for U.S. beef, and that’s exactly what we are getting with this new agreement.”
-National Cattlemen’s Beef Association

“The Central America nations wanted to exclude pork from the CAFTA but Ambassador Zoellick and Ambassador Johnson, supported completely by President Bush and Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, did not let us down… [W]e are very excited about the CAFTA agreement because it will provide significant new opportunity to our producers.”
-National Pork Producers Council

“…[This] agreement that will not only bring more stability to U.S. poultry exports but provides a positive framework for growth in exports in the years ahead.”
-National Chicken Council

“On the whole, this agreement is a win for the U.S. rice industry. While Central America has been one of our biggest customers, we now have guaranteed market access for rough and milled rice, which is something we did not have before.”
-USA Rice Federation

“The [Central America] region has become in the last few years a very good market for U.S. poultry, and the agreement means that this trend will continue.”
-USA Poultry and Egg Export Council

“The U.S./Central American Free Trade Agreement is a victory for the principles of free and open trade, and it should turn out to be a very positive deal for the turkey industry, for all agriculture in the United States and for all the nations involved in the agreement.”
-National Turkey Federation

“U.S. dairy product suppliers will see substantially greater success in these markets for cheese, ice cream, whey proteins, and milk powder.”
-U.S. Dairy Export Council

“The agreement is a good deal for corn growers and the grains industry overall.”
-National Corn Growers Association

“The agreement will offer immediate duty free access for more than 1 million metric tons of U.S. corn, with tariffs dropping to zero in all four countries within 15 years. The market potential for U.S. feed grains is extremely high and demand will grow due to this historic agreement.”
-U.S. Grains Council

“The Bush administration has reached a monumental milestone for fair trade opportunities for U.S. apples with our neighbors in Central America.”
-U.S. Apple Association

“We are pleased to have the grape tariff elimination included in the agreement and urge Congress to ratify the agreement…This tariff elimination is just the latest example of how the industry works together for the benefit of every fresh grape grower in the state.”
-California Table Grape Commission

“This agreement, if approved by Congress, would allow for additional market access for U.S. potato products to these markets… The reduction of tariffs on fries was a high priority for the potato industry.”
-National Potato Council

“On behalf of U.S. soybean producers, I congratulate the Bush Administration for a job well done. This agreement will solidify our position as the preferred supplier of soybeans and soybean products to these Central American nations. For that we are grateful.”
-American Soybean Association

“It’s going to make it much easier to compete… [T]ariffs range from 14 percent to 28 percent [on apples]… That equates to an additional $2.25 to $4.50 per carton that importers have to pay on our product that they don’t have to pay on the Chilean product…. [S]o we believe that if Congress ratifies this free trade agreement, which is the next step, that this will get us back on competitive footing.”
-Northwest Horticultural Council

“Overall, CAFTA will benefit the food, beverage and consumer products industry. However, if the United States is to maintain its commitment to free trade, it should not create special exceptions that will insulate select commodities such as sugar from free trade.”
-Grocery Manufacturers Association

“The markets in Central America are of growing importance to our members. CAFTA will level the playing field for everyone doing business there and for those Central American companies wanting to do more business in the United States.”
-Pet Food Institute

Quotes of Support from Business and Farm Groups


30 posted on 04/06/2005 7:47:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Clemenza

"Staying in one place for one's entire life reeks of a lack of upward mobility............. and stability for children, life long friendships and schools you choose.

Upward mobility = kids with no roots


31 posted on 04/06/2005 7:49:04 AM PDT by BellStar ("A human being, not a vegetable, did slowly die and not many cared")
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To: billbears
You should be very concerned for your family. CAFTA is a stepping stone to hemispheric integration, which means melding all the countries into a single country, euphemistically known as an "economic zone" Of course a supranational government will have to be established to complete this process, meaning the US Constitution will be rendered obsolete.

Here is what our TRADE REPRESENTATIVE has said about the trade agreements CAFTA and the FTAA. They clearly are driving toward the elimination of national borders and a hemispheric government...

Hemispheric Integration and the FTAA

The original approach to achieving such an FTAA was to negotiate a single, comprehensive, high ambition free trade area among all 34 countries, with appropriate special treatment for smaller, less developed economies.

However, it became apparent that several countries, notably MERCOSUR, were not in a position at this time to agree to such an ambitious and comprehensive package.

Last November in Miami, the trade ministers established two paths to trade liberalization in the FTAA, beginning with the Common Set of Rights and Obligations which would apply to all 34 countries.The Common Set(1)This common set of benefits and obligations, applicable to all countries, means at this point in time that all countries must accept more modest levels of ambition to take account of the different sensitivities among

Although progress on the FTAA has been measured, the United States has been actively pursuing bilateral free trade agreements (FTAs) in the hemisphere. The U.S.-Chile FTA is now in effect and proving its worth to both countries. •We concluded talks earlier this year on a U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA.The U.S.-Chile FTA is now in effect and proving its worth to both countries.

We concluded talks earlier this year on a U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA. Talks to integrate the Dominican Republic into CAFTA were wrapped up a few weeks ago.

Talks with Panama are already underway this week and those with the Andean countries will begin in mid-May. These bilaterals are not just a path for bilateral trade liberalization with the United States, but are stepping-stones toward hemispheric integration.

Remarks of Peter F. AllgeierDeputy U.S. Trade RepresentativeBrazil Summit 2004U.S.-Brazil Relations in the Context of the FTAA NegotiationsNew York April 27, 2004

32 posted on 04/06/2005 8:13:02 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Designer
Conclusion of the Chile FTA has provided momentum to other hemispheric and global trade liberalization efforts by breaking ground on new issues and demonstrating what a 21st century trade agreement should be. We continue to move forward with the centerpiece of our hemispheric integration strategy, the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). We maintain our strong commitment to the negotiation of a comprehensive and robust FTAA by January of 2005. We already have followed up on our success with Chile by launching historic negotiations toward a free trade agreement (the so-called CAFTA) between the United States and the nations of the Central America economic integration system: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. The U.S.-Chile FTA and the CAFTA will serve as building blocks for the FTAA. They will give both sides greater access to others’ markets at an earlier date than is possible under the FTAA. At the same time, these bilateral FTAs strengthen ties and integration, demonstrating the additional benefits available through the FTAA.

Statement of Regina K. Vargo
Assistant U.S. Trade Representative for the Americas
Senate Committee on the Judiciary
July 14, 2003
33 posted on 04/06/2005 8:16:47 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Coleus

another "stop the world, i wanna get off" article.

dem-commie or pubbie global trade is coming.


34 posted on 04/06/2005 8:19:26 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + then you don't hear from them again. /s)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I don't remember reading anything in CAFTA about sending tax dollars to any country. I do remember how it requires the Central American companies to stop their government monopolies over such things as telecommunications and insurance and allow American companies to compete for business down there.


35 posted on 04/06/2005 8:26:58 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

When the draft text of CAFTA was first made available on January 28, 2004, these states discovered they were bound by the 2,400-page agreement and were specifically listed in Chapter 9. A third have since rescinded their support of CAFTA.

The governors are hearing from their state legislators who are beginning to understand how these foreign-trade agreements usurp the states' constitutional and legislative powers. These agreements take away state legislative authority over regulating utilities, controlling land use, and the granting of taxpayer-funded contracts.

Last fall, a WTO tribunal outlawed Utah's ban on gambling, opening the door to millions of dollars in penalties against all states with anti-gambling regulations. Antigua and Barbuda had charged that Utah's ban on gambling violated America's obligation not to discriminate against foreigners providing "recreational services."

CAFTA includes hundreds of pages of grants of vague authority to foreign tribunals. It wouldn't take a very activist foreign judge to read his own interpretation into language that requires us to use the "least trade-restrictive" regulations and to change our laws so they are "no more burdensome than necessary."

Meanwhile, states are feeling the heat from their constituents who discovered that some state agencies were paying out taxpayers' money to corporations that outsource their labor, particularly programmers, engineers and call-center workers. Anti-outsourcing bills have been introduced in 35 states.

It is clear that CAFTA would prevent any state that has "signed on" from giving preference to in-state contractors or prohibiting tax dollars from going to contractors who outsource jobs. Any Central American country could file a complaint, and the state would have to rely on its defense by the U.S. Government that has already agreed to CAFTA's rules.

The pro-CAFTA lobby's promise of big trade with the CAFTA countries is a pipe dream. How can anyone expect customers for U.S. products from countries where half the people live below the poverty line and the hourly wages are often below 50 cents per hour?

El Salvador's principal exports to the United States are its vicious MS-13 and other street gangs. Hundreds of these young criminals have brought an unprecedented level of murder, violence, mutilation, and brutality to cities all over our country.

The real purpose of CAFTA is to allow multinational corporations to exploit the abundance of cheap labor and the scarcity of taxes and safety regulations in CAFTA countries. CAFTA will increase our $58 billion job-killing U.S. trade deficit and further weaken our already suffering dollar.

--CAFTA Is A Bad Deal For The United States


36 posted on 04/06/2005 8:32:57 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Dog Gone
I think what hedgetrimmer means is that CAFTA-DR makes it easier for organizations such as The U.S. Agency for International Development, The U.S. Trade and Development Agency (why do we have two of these?), etc., to channel funds to specific projects. I don't think there is anything in the agreement per se about "wealth redistribution," to use a Bircher term.
37 posted on 04/06/2005 8:34:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The main feature of CAFTA is that it phases out the tariffs those countries impose on our exports, while we currently have none on their products which we import.

How can anyone be against that?

The other feature is that it opens their economies up to competition from American companies. That's good for us and it's good for them.

38 posted on 04/06/2005 8:42:55 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: hedgetrimmer
How can anyone expect customers for U.S. products from countries where half the people live below the poverty line and the hourly wages are often below 50 cents per hour?
--Phyllis Schlafly

Central America and the Dominican Republic make up the 2nd-largest U.S. export market in Latin America, behind only Mexico. The U.S. exports more than $15 billion annually to the region, making it America’s 10th-largest export market worldwide*; CAFTA-DR is a larger U.S. export market than Russia, India and Indonesia combined.
*Assumes EU is one market

Source: Overview: The Case for CAFTA

39 posted on 04/06/2005 8:42:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dog Gone
How can anyone be against that?

First, one must believe that "we don' build or sell nuthin', nowheres, no how." Second, factor-in a good dose of confusion about terms such as "hemispheric integration." Finally, add a spice of paranoia and a fear of statistics.

40 posted on 04/06/2005 8:48:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement will provide a substantial competitive advantage to U.S. agriculture
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"almost 80 percent of products from Central America already enter the United States duty-free, partly because of unilateral preference programs such as the Caribbean Basin Initiative and the Generalized System of Preferences.

What's new about CAFTA is that it opens markets to the remaining 20 percent of goods and services, and for the first time opens markets for farm products from the United States."

"According to the office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the American Farm Bureau Federation estimates CAFTA could expand U.S. farm exports by $1.5 billion a year."

Source:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jackkemp/jk20050321.shtml


The CAFTA/Free trade contras are the usual suspects when it comes to crying rivers over the belief that the US is now a net importer of food and that American farmers are truly suffering. CAFTA presents a clear opportunity to ameliorate this alleged problem but all they can do is carp about a perceived conspiracy of wage arbitrage being inflicted on workers by US businesses and the inevitable lost jobs.

It would seem that consistency is not a protectionist virtue.
41 posted on 04/06/2005 10:35:09 AM PDT by Mase
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To: 1rudeboy
So rather than side with a loyal American, these are the bedfellows you keep:

In a speech to the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations Schroeder dwelled on the need for barrier-free trade. "One thing is clear: The answer cannot be protectionism "Schroeder said seizing the best economic opportunities even if it means the departure of jobs "is part of a cultural change ... but this has to come and be accepted by an open society."



Like George Soros' open society?

Amid calls from poor countries for the elimination of agricultural subsidies, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan urged representatives of 180 nations to push for free trade agreements that will raise global living standards.

Is Kofi Annan your cup of tea?
42 posted on 04/06/2005 1:39:17 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Wolfie

Excellent spin idea! Contact Rush and Hannity immediately!


43 posted on 04/06/2005 7:05:53 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: hedgetrimmer

I have no idea of what you are talking about. Regards,


44 posted on 04/06/2005 7:16:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The official CAFTA text is freely available from the US Trade Representative's Office:

http://www.ustr.gov/Trade_Agreements/Bilateral/DR-CAFTA/DR-CAFTA_Final_Texts/Section_Index.html

Per Fast Track rules this is the FINAL text of the agreement that Congress gets only a YES or NO vote on. No revisions allowed.

Here are some excerpts of the agreement that should give pause to anyone who gives a rip about who makes the laws in our country.

PREAMBLE The Governments of...resolve to:

BUILD on their respective rights and obligations under the Marrakesh Agreement Establishing the World Trade Organization and other multilateral and bilateral instruments of cooperation;

CONTRIBUTE to hemispheric integration and provide an impetus toward establishing the Free Trade Area of the Americas; (editor's note: the word economic does not fall before the word integration and nowhere in the document is the US exempted from this integration process.)

Article 16.1: Statement of Shared Commitment

1. The Parties reaffirm their obligations as members of the International Labor Organization (ILO) and their commitments under the ILO Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work and its Follow-Up (1998) (ILO Declaration).1 Each Party shall strive to ensure that such labor principles and the internationally recognized labor rights set forth in Article 16.8 are recognized and protected by its law. (editor's notes: US labor law currently only meets two of the eight ILO fundamental principles. The UN's ILO is not a free market think tank.)

As noted in above posts, CAFTA actually expands the NAFTA Tribunal arbitration system which has now begun over ruling Supreme Court judgments in our country. This is not about fluoride in the water. Here is a taste of that wording that shows the arbitrary nature to the "free trade" system established in CAFTA and the FTAA: Article 20.6: Request for an Arbitral Panel ...The Parties shall establish within six months of the date of entry into force of this Agreement and maintain a roster of up to 70 individuals who are willing and able to serve as panelists. Unless the Parties otherwise agree, up to eight members of the roster shall be nationals of each Party, and up to 14 members of the roster shall be selected from among individuals who are not nationals of any Party. The roster members shall be appointed by consensus, and may be reappointed. Once established, a roster shall remain in effect for a minimum of three years, and shall remain in effect thereafter until the Parties constitute a new roster. The Parties may appoint a replacement where a roster member is no longer available to serve....

...2. Unless the disputing Parties otherwise agree, the panel shall conduct its proceedings in accordance with the Model Rules of Procedure. 3. The Commission may modify the Model Rules of Procedure.

You do not have to be an international trade lawyer to recognize this is not an agreement about the kind of "Free Trade" any Austrian School economist would recognize. It is more like establishing the rules of franchise entry and competition in the NFL.

If you were at the negotiation table you will do well. If you were not at the table, rest assured that you were on it.

The William Grigg article is correct in pointing out the inherently socialist nature of this agreement that creates an elaborate system of managed trade.

If you don't like the source of the evidence just read the Jeb Bush led Florida FTAA Inc. promotions that tout the 26,000 jobs and $500 million dollars a year of revenue the FTAA Secretariat will bring to the city it chooses to call home.

True Free Trade does not take 26,000 new bureaucrats to create and $500 million a year for starters is not "free".

45 posted on 04/28/2005 10:04:05 AM PDT by R. Welch
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