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San Diego police kill driver who they say reached for fake gun
contra costa times ^ | 4/4/5 | AP

Posted on 04/04/2005 3:25:36 PM PDT by SmithL

SAN DIEGO - Police shot and killed a 24-year-old minivan driver who pointed what turned out to be a fake handgun at them early Monday, a senior officer said.

An officer stopped Jacob Richard Faust in downtown San Diego around 1:45 a.m. for making an illegal turn, police Capt. Jim McGinley said. The San Diego man handed over a license that was suspended last month.

Faust cranked up his stereo, drawing the attention of a second officer who stopped to offer assistance. The second officer spotted the handle of an apparent handgun in a pouch behind the passenger seat, McGinley said.

Faust refused orders to get out of the minivan and one of the officers fired a blast of pepper spray to subdue him. At that point, Faust "reached into that pouch and pulled that handgun out and began to point it at one of the officers," McGinley said.

One officer fired three shots, hitting Faust, who died later at a hospital.

The item thought to be a weapon turned out to be a realistic replica of a semiautomatic handgun, McGinley said.

There was no explanation for why Faust reached for the replica, McGinley said. Nothing else of significance was found in the van; his license was suspended last month for an arrest for driving under the influence.

"He's the only one who is going to know the answer to that," McGinley said. "He clearly did not follow officers' orders to get out of the car, and purposefully went for that gun."

The officer who fired his gun, an 11-year department veteran, was placed on administrative leave pending an investigation. Findings from the probe will be forwarded to the San Diego County District Attorney's Office, McGinley said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; donutwatch; fakegun; leo; orsotheysay; whackandstack
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Note to self:
Don't bring a toy to a gun fight.
1 posted on 04/04/2005 3:25:40 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Justified genetic gene pool cleansing.


2 posted on 04/04/2005 3:26:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: SmithL
"SAN DIEGO - Police shot and killed a 24-year-old minivan driver who pointed what turned out to be a fake handgun at them early Monday,"

Stupidest move. . .ever.
3 posted on 04/04/2005 3:27:15 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: SmithL

Suicide by cop.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 3:27:51 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: SmithL

I hate replica guns. All they can do is get you killed.


5 posted on 04/04/2005 3:28:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SmithL

Looks like a suicide by cop.


6 posted on 04/04/2005 3:28:35 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: SmithL


DUI again, apparently.


7 posted on 04/04/2005 3:28:39 PM PDT by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: SmithL

I believe in this case "too stupid to live" is a reasonable diagnosis


8 posted on 04/04/2005 3:28:40 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: SmithL

Dumb dumb

Not you, the kid.

9 posted on 04/04/2005 3:28:49 PM PDT by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: SmithL

Sounds like a case of "suicide by police" to me. I have heard that this method is becoming more common than it used to be. Either that, or the guy wanted a Darwin Award.


10 posted on 04/04/2005 3:29:42 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: Gunrunner2

More chlorine poured into the gene pool.

"better life through chemistry"


11 posted on 04/04/2005 3:30:53 PM PDT by StoneGiant
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To: randog

Exactly.


12 posted on 04/04/2005 3:30:58 PM PDT by edfrank_1998
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To: SmithL
Do you really believe this story? Which is more plausible, the guy pulls a fake gun out (from behind the passenger seat?) and points it towards a police officer? or the gun was a plant? I hate to think these things happen but really think about this.
13 posted on 04/04/2005 3:32:42 PM PDT by SF Republican
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If it happened the way the officers say it did, I truly feel bad for these cops. I would hate to live with something like this.

Assuming it really happened this way.

The dead guy does not get to tell his side of the story.

14 posted on 04/04/2005 3:34:51 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: SF Republican

Yes, I really believe this story. No, I don't think the toy was a plant.


15 posted on 04/04/2005 3:37:19 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: SF Republican
Do you really believe this story? Which is more plausible, the guy pulls a fake gun out (from behind the passenger seat?) and points it towards a police officer? or the gun was a plant? I hate to think these things happen but really think about this.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. The cop who shot him just woke up this morning and said, "You know, today, I think I'll go shoot someone." Then, after he chose his target, pulled him over, peppersprayed him, and shot him, he planted a toy gun on the guy.

Please tell me you're joking.

16 posted on 04/04/2005 3:37:22 PM PDT by Terabitten (A quick reminder to the liberals. The election in Iraq was done NOT IN YOUR NAME.)
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To: SmithL

And you actually believe what they say???????? Bull Crap!!!!


17 posted on 04/04/2005 3:37:34 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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So the police aren't even bothering to plant real guns on their victims anymore? Must have gotten too expensive.


18 posted on 04/04/2005 3:37:47 PM PDT by monday
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To: cripplecreek
Justified genetic gene pool cleansing.

Yep.

19 posted on 04/04/2005 3:37:52 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: SF Republican

Beyond the hysterics of the posters, I don't think anyone pulls a fake gun to cops unless you have chromosomes missing. I am not sure if it was planted, but I am certain it was his kid's or something that was left in the car. He was probably going for his license and registration in his glove compartment went the cop couldn't juggle between his donut and gun. Unfortunate, but that is what happens when you have dropouts with power.


20 posted on 04/04/2005 3:38:04 PM PDT by econ_grad
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