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Ireland Enacts Law Banning English On Maps, Roadsigns
AP/Newsday ^ | 3/28/05 | SHAWN POGATCHNIK

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:19:27 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Ireland Enacts Law Banning English on Maps

By SHAWN POGATCHNIK Associated Press Writer

March 28, 2005, 3:19 PM EST

DUBLIN, Ireland -- Tourists, beware: Your guide book may tell you the way to Dingle in County Kerry, but all the road signs will be pointing you toward An Daingean in Contae an Ciarrai instead.

In an age where many people bemoan English's growing global influence, advocates of local languages scored a small victory Monday when Ireland enacted a law outlawing English in road signs and official maps on much of the nation's western coast, where many people speak Gaelic.

Locals concede the switch will confuse foreigners in an area that depends heavily on tourism, but they say it's the price of patriotism.

"The change is nice for the locals, but if a stranger's coming in without one of the new Dingle maps, it can be quite difficult," said Sarah Brosnan, assistant manager of the Dingle Bay Hotel, which -- like most things connected to the tourist trade -- won't be changing its name.

In all, more than 2,300 towns, villages, fields and crossroads that traditionally had both English and Gaelic names have had their previously bilingual road signs changed to Irish only. The change chiefly affects three far-flung regions of the western seaboard called the Gaeltacht, which has long been nation's last stand in the battle against English dominance.

There, English place names no longer have legal standing and may not be used in government documents or on official Ordnance Survey maps. The switch also applies in a few official Gaelic-speaking pockets of County Meath, northwest of Dublin, and County Waterford in the southeast.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: english; ireland; language
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1 posted on 03/29/2005 8:19:27 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

"In all, more than 2,300 towns, villages, fields and crossroads that traditionally had both English and Gaelic names have had their previously bilingual road signs changed to Irish only. "

They really have so much money that they need to waste it on replacing perfectly good roadsigns?


2 posted on 03/29/2005 8:21:16 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: kiriath_jearim; Happygal
Locals concede the switch will confuse foreigners in an area that depends heavily on tourism, but they say it's the price of patriotism.

Sheesh. We have enough trouble with the accent!

3 posted on 03/29/2005 8:22:14 AM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Ridiculous. I have traveled through those parts and most people speak English. Make the English smaller and below the Gaelic, but don't outlaw it. And I must say, Gaelic spoken never seems remotely like the way it's spelled.


4 posted on 03/29/2005 8:22:38 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: kiriath_jearim; Irish_Thatcherite
Amusingly, swritten by Shawn Pogatchnik.
5 posted on 03/29/2005 8:24:25 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: kiriath_jearim
No worries....if you're drunk you can still read them.
6 posted on 03/29/2005 8:24:43 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Hey, their country, their rules, nothing to see here.


7 posted on 03/29/2005 8:24:53 AM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: kiriath_jearim

It's their right, and mine not to go.


8 posted on 03/29/2005 8:25:12 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: kiriath_jearim
More power to them.
It would be polite, however, if they could have shared a map of the affected area with us, so we could determine which areas to stay away from; or not, depending on personal preference.

A perfect example of an internal affair...

9 posted on 03/29/2005 8:25:47 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: kiriath_jearim

The Irish seem as out of step with the realities of their language as the French. Imagine the day when English will be removed from all roadsigns in the US in favor of Spanish.


10 posted on 03/29/2005 8:25:50 AM PST by rhombus
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To: kiriath_jearim
An Daingean in Contae an Ciarrai

Is that correct, or did they switch to English? I expected to see "An Daingean ann an Contae an Ciarrai."

11 posted on 03/29/2005 8:26:16 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Gee, I wish America would keep to English instead of Spanish everywhere.


12 posted on 03/29/2005 8:26:32 AM PST by mel
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To: kiriath_jearim
Luckily us guys never look at maps.....
13 posted on 03/29/2005 8:26:55 AM PST by Drango (My tag line is takin' a nap. Please come back later.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
This sounds like Quebec, but more extreme. If they make it too difficult, then they can do without English speaking tourists.
14 posted on 03/29/2005 8:27:20 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Drango

Yeah, but Gaelic? there's gonna be a lot MORE screwed drivers.


15 posted on 03/29/2005 8:28:17 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: kiriath_jearim
I agree with this insofar that they (a) understand it's a bit of an inconvenience to tourists yet (b) see it as a price worth paying for patriotism.

It's their heritage, it's their country, it's their right.

16 posted on 03/29/2005 8:29:20 AM PST by LincolnLover ("Always look on the bright side o' life!")
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To: kiriath_jearim

Way to pull the country into the 18th century!


17 posted on 03/29/2005 8:32:23 AM PST by zook
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To: Unam Sanctam
And I must say, Gaelic spoken never seems remotely like the way it's spelled.

Gaelic, at least Scots Gaelic, has a very phonetic orthography. The rules are different from English, but once learned pronunciation is little problem.

18 posted on 03/29/2005 8:32:58 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: sionnsar

GPS locator! Problem solved!


19 posted on 03/29/2005 8:34:43 AM PST by royce4
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To: kiriath_jearim
I've been to Dingle and the small Gaelic speaking towns that surround it. Gorgeous is an understatement. Dingle is the greatest city I've ever been to. Fishing, pubs, seafood and great music literally everywhere. Sweet.

The Irish-only names will be appealing to tourists, not an insult. The tourists are interested in seeing Ireland as Irish as it can be.

Regarding the problem with the maps, this will be solved by a wonderous invention called a printer that will enable them to churn out magical new maps that have the gaelic name of the location the tourist is looking for.

20 posted on 03/29/2005 8:34:52 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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