Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

QUESTIONS FOR MICHAEL ERIC DYSON Bill Cosby's Not Funny
NY Times ^ | March 27, 2005 | DEBORAH SOLOMON

Posted on 03/27/2005 8:16:08 AM PST by ken21

QUESTIONS FOR MICHAEL ERIC DYSON Bill Cosby's Not Funny Interview by DEBORAH SOLOMON

Published: March 27, 2005

Q Your new book is a rhetorical screed against Bill Cosby, and the title alone is not exactly subtle: ''Is Bill Cosby Right? Or Has the Black Middle Class Lost Its Mind?''

When a comedian throws a pie in the face of a powerful person, it's funny. When he throws a pie in the face of a homeless mother with three kids, that's not very funny.

You're referring to Cosby's recent harangue about lower-income black people, whom he faults for neglecting their children, wasting money on expensive sneakers and glamorizing ghetto culture.

It's his Blame-the-Poor Tour. He should pick on someone in his own class. If he had come out swinging at Condi Rice or Colin Powell, they could defend themselves. But he's beating up on poor black people, the most vulnerable people in this nation. And why jump on them?

On the other hand, many of us feel that his comments represent an admirable attempt at self-criticism and apply not only to blacks but also to whites in a consumer culture that has run amok.

Here's the irony: Mr. Cosby has been a supreme pitchman for American corporate capitalism for nearly 40 years. Had he come along now, he himself might have been promoting some gym shoes.

I actually found your book alarmingly unbalanced. How can you write 200-plus pages on Bill Cosby without detailing the millions of dollars he has donated to colleges and other good causes?

I think I mention his $20 million gift to Spelman College. It's a well-known fact. There's no need to repeat it.

But he has given to so many other black causes.

There's a dark underside to philanthropy. People who give a bunch of money are deferred to, even when they are wrong. The emperor cannot be shown to have no clothes.

You, yourself, as a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, know that Cosby's following is hardly based on his wealth. Why do you think the black middle class has been so moved by his call for individual responsibility?

Of course, taken in one sense, a lot of what he said we can agree with. None of us want our children to be murderers or thieves. But Cosby never acknowledges that most poor blacks don't have a choice about these things.

So, then, how much do you think individual will counts for our success or failure in life?

I don't believe in that kind of American John Wayne individualism where people pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Someone changed your diapers. And if that's the case, you ain't self-made.

You seem to be of the Hillary Clinton ''it takes a village'' school of thinking.

Yes. But Hillary borrowed that from black people! In fact, it's an African proverb. And my ambition didn't grow out of nowhere. It was planted in me by a community that nurtured me.

Can you tell us something about that community?

I'm 46. I grew up in Detroit. I was a teen father. I lived on welfare for three years. I have a brother serving life in prison, though I believe he's innocent. He's in for second-degree murder.

Why do you think you were able to succeed when your brother could not?

My talent was more easily identifiable.

Which talent is that?

My talent for oratory, for running my mouth.

In light of that, might you arrange to debate Cosby publicly in the near future?

He doesn't do that. And that, to me, is part of the problem.

Have you ever met him?

No. I talked to him one time on the phone, and it was not a hateful conversation.

Will you send him a copy of your book and inscribe it affectionately?

Sure. As our friends in the Cosa Nostra say: This is business. It's not personal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: billcosby; blacks; cosby; dyson
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last
>But Cosby never acknowledges that most poor blacks don't have a choice about these things.

the democrat plantation responds back!

1 posted on 03/27/2005 8:16:09 AM PST by ken21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ken21

Someone told me something about our mixed race neighborhood here in Garden City once. "There's reasons why people are poor. There's no excuse for people acting like trash."


2 posted on 03/27/2005 8:19:59 AM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Keyes2000mt

Even those with money are ignorant. You cant buy manners, your taught respect.


3 posted on 03/27/2005 8:21:31 AM PST by duck duck goose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Keyes2000mt

id'that amazing?


4 posted on 03/27/2005 8:22:25 AM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: duck duck goose

Give a trashy guy with no respect $100 million from the lottery and you have a trashy guy with a $100 million.


5 posted on 03/27/2005 8:22:33 AM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: mhking

Michael "I like the sound of my own voice' Dyson alert!


6 posted on 03/27/2005 8:23:56 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ken21
None of us want our children to be murderers or thieves. But Cosby never acknowledges that most poor blacks don't have a choice about these things.

Why should he acknowledge something that just isn't true ????

7 posted on 03/27/2005 8:24:24 AM PST by dfwddr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwddr

yep, i can't believe he's saying that po' blacks are not responsible for their actions.

meanwhile, the kids on the streets believe this, and run their lives accordingly.


8 posted on 03/27/2005 8:26:28 AM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Keyes2000mt

So very true.


9 posted on 03/27/2005 8:29:04 AM PST by duck duck goose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ken21

I find it quite interesting that women have come out of the woodwork to accuse Mr. Cosby of sexual abuse just at the time his "responsibility" message was getting a lot of press. Reminds me of the sudden appearance of Anita Hill when Clarence Thomas was being confirmed.


10 posted on 03/27/2005 8:30:59 AM PST by turnrightnow (bink's mom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: turnrightnow

you're right!

wadn't that interesting.

bill cosby says something the leftist media denies and all of a sudden he's got woman problems!


11 posted on 03/27/2005 8:33:47 AM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ken21
>And he reinforces his idiotic beliefs with this:

I don't believe in that kind of American John Wayne individualism where people pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Why take care of yourself, when, as the 'rats believe, everyone else in society will cover for you.

12 posted on 03/27/2005 8:37:05 AM PST by dfwddr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ken21
[ There's a dark underside to philanthropy. People who give a bunch of money are deferred to, even when they are wrong. The emperor cannot be shown to have no clothes. ]

Is he referring to P.Diddy or Bill Cosby.?.
Cosby is someone to be respected.. Diddy is a fugitive from the Jerry Springer Show at large..

13 posted on 03/27/2005 8:42:22 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwddr

it worked well for the english, irish, jews, germans, italians, ... etc., but for some reason blacks are better than this.


14 posted on 03/27/2005 8:42:23 AM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: hosepipe

i thought the whole article was addressed to cosby.


15 posted on 03/27/2005 8:44:03 AM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ken21
I love it when the liberal leftist commie homo loving affirmative action race baiting pedophile encouragers start to eat their own.
16 posted on 03/27/2005 8:45:00 AM PST by vetvetdoug (Thank you God for giving me the strength to get through the day, sometimes it just takes more.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ken21
[ I thought the whole article was addressed to cosby. ]

It was..
I commented on the line I quoted..

17 posted on 03/27/2005 8:47:17 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug

!!!


18 posted on 03/27/2005 8:48:57 AM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: ken21
I'm 46. I grew up in Detroit. I was a teen father. I lived on welfare for three years. I have a brother serving life in prison, though I believe he's innocent. He's in for second-degree murder. Why do you think you were able to succeed when your brother could not?

My talent was more easily identifiable.

Which talent is that?

My talent for oratory, for running my mouth.

It's obvious the man's a spouter not a thinker.

19 posted on 03/27/2005 8:59:19 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
None of us want our children to be murderers or thieves. But Cosby never acknowledges that most poor blacks don't have a choice about these things.

He exposes his faulty thinking with a statement like this. Everyone has choices, regardless of what idiots like Tyson might think.

Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

20 posted on 03/27/2005 9:01:35 AM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson