Posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:49 AM PST by meanie monster
Still breaking....
You are so right and I am very shocked by many people on here, would have never beleive Freepers could be the way some are ranting and raving, name calling and hurtful to other Freepers.
Words have meanings. Instead of not shrinking from judging Madprof98, you should not shrink from calling Michael Schiavo, et al., what they manifestly are: people engaged in attempted murder.
I'm sorry, I didn't read your comments at all.
Thank you so much! I am so distressed to that any anyone who holds a differing opinion, even if it's by milimeters, is evil. I went to a reconciliation service last night at church and the homily was essentially: Keep out of your neighbors sins, deal with your own.
That said, prayers to the Pope.
Yet you approved of a long diatribe against them.
You have no idea about me and have no basis to comment on my faithfulness to the Pope or the Church.
Your assumptions are faulty (as is your habit).
Stop. Those in the "kill Terri" crowd probably are people of goodwill who believe the medical findings that she's in a PVS. That is not evil and it is not completely unreasonable.
Regardless of whether or not a human being is in a PVS, they are not to be starved and dehydrated to death. Period. If it is painless and euphoric and natural (from whose personal experience?) then why do we feed the poor and why is is illegal to treat animals that way - and - why is she being given pain medication during the slow starvation if she cannot feel pain? People of 'goodwill' do not condone starving other human beings to death.
Great post!
But why do some resort to name-calling and rudeness? Why can't the discourse remain civil? Smacks of the sin of pride to me.
Lots of people will. No big deal.
What a beautiful thought. How many of us have thought to pray for Michael Shiavo? Maybe the Lord can touch his heart as he did yours.
If you claim that the sun appears to rise in the west, you have not opened a legitimate argument. It is heartbreaking that they are trying to murder her. It is conflicting only as a Red Chinese invasion of sovereign Taiwan would be "conflicting." It has overwhelmed only weak minds. No brilliance has emanated from the bench in this "controversy." It is very simple: Will Terri be required to be murdered by dehydration and starvation or will the government intervene to gurantee her right to life? Not overwhelming at all.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller --------------------------------------
There are some things that you need to speak out on... like the slow and painful starvation of your sister in Christ.
Excuse me, but the point was about demonizing good freepers.
Then you and others make the assumption that my statement of that obvious fact must mean my own point of view is at odds with your own.
Then someone goes on at length in an inappropriate and outrageously false description of my position and you pop in saying how wonderful it all is and the spin stops with that person.
I said nothing to warrant that attack on my standing as a Catholic.
I agree it's wrong. Terri is suffering and dying a painful . But I am troubled by the political ramifications, too. Reasonable people can feel both ways.
What did it was the reminder last weekend that a stone killer can accept Christ from the guidance of the very person he took as hostage.
We forget that the Apostle Paul used to be Saul, and used to murder Christians by the bushel.
Michael Schiavo has a new woman in his life, and kids. At some point that begins to work on you.
I join you in that prayer and add that he have respite from suffering and peace.
He also survived being shot. Not good for long term health.
I have a "Holy Father" who isn't going anywhere, because He said He would never leave us or forsake us.
Just sayin'. ;-)
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