Posted on 03/20/2005 7:16:24 PM PST by Coastal
Words are so easy to use. Words mean things. Words are also easily used, especially when the right words elude. In Florida, Terri Schiavo is now waiting to die. Does she know it? You can be assured she does. Can she speak about it? No. Does that mean she is in a 'vegetative state'? NO!
But what is a 'vegetative state'? According to Dr. Jeffrey Frank, director of neurological and neurosurgical intensive care at the University of Chicago, "A person in a vegetative state is 'awake but not aware,'... 'Though reflexes may cause them to turn toward a sound, gaze at an object or respond to touch, 'there is no thought connected ... these are primitive, instinctual responses."
Excuse me?
That just described the vast majority of humans. Most humans do not use the short-term 'conscious' process of their brain for more than a way station of information. The motor control outputted from that short-term process, if employed would dramatically reduce stress, cut down drastically on reactionary physical violence and solve a great deal of the world's problems.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...
I've got very mixed emotions about this whole thing.
The question I ask is how does this writer have the balls to say....
"You can be assured she does."
Report the news, lib-head........
and not what you feel.
LVM
Exactly, time to turn her off.
If your body temperture is higher than your IQ, it is time to make an exit.
So9
Fine if you're deciding for yourself. If not, hands off. By the way, a 6 week old infant displays some of the same characteristics as Terri: lack of focus in the eyes, but responds to sounds and smiles at the mother's voice.
Bottom line. We all should put it in writing what we want done under what conditions now.
Alas if you were born 50 years earlier you would have fit right in with the Third Reich.
"Exactly, time to turn her off."
Well, I would agree if it was as simple as an electronic machine sustaining her, that as soon as it was killed, she was, too.
However, the simple fact that she is and can continue living until the nutrients in her body have been all used up (starve) over a period of a few weeks (or even one day is enough), that tells me that she is a living human being.
And the more I hear and read on this, the more it appears that her husband has continued spousal abuse in front of the courts, God and everybody in the name of "love". he won't allow sunlight in her room. I watched live today her parents being stopped from crossing onto the hospice property. What's up with that? They can't say "goodbye" to their own daughter?
No, to me this is about rescue, not life support.
god bless Terri and her parents and siblings.
Interesting read if anyone wants to take the time.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/HS/content/htm/hs.002.00.000166.00.htm
This is the Texas "Health & Safety Code Chapter 166" as signed by then Governor Bush. It's it directly applicable to this situation but horribly leagalish to read so I'm linking rather that excerpting.
"If your body temperture is higher than your IQ, it is time to make an exit."
Do you have any idea how much of the human race would need to be liquidated using your formula? I am not too convinced that YOU would make the cut.
Should we execute the mentally retarded?
Yes, but the brain in a six week baby is growing, not atrophying.
SO9
Yes, half, give or take a billion.
SO9
I just got this email from the family research council.
It states, "FRC has an authentic audio file from Terri's hospital room recorded Friday afternoon, approximately two hours after her feeding tube was removed. Her father is asking her questions and she is audibly responding to him."
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=NW05C05&f=AL05C03&t=e
I guess freepers can listen and decide for themselves.
Do you realize what you've just said. The average IQ is 100. The body temperature is 98.6. It means almost half of the human race should be gone according to your criterion.
The democrats are depending upon without admitting it openly the notion of arbitrarily assigning value based on level of competency. To the death party, Terri's level of competency isn't sufficient to protect her UNALIENABLE RIGHT TO LIFE! Democrats are now sunken to the level of The Party Of Death.
That was so cold, dude!
Yes, he realizes what he said.
First off, please cut me some slack as I have missed most of the in's and out's of this case, so I may not know what I'm talking about.
Here is what I have gathered.
1 - She expressed her wishes to NOT be maintained in a vegetative state to her husband
2 - She IS in a vegetative state
3 - Her husband has medical power of Attorney
4 - He has ordered withholding of nutrition and hydration
Am I missing something or is that pretty much it. If what I outlined above is the "case", then this is legal even by the legislation signed by Bush while Govener of Texas. You can read it here
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/HS/content/htm/hs.002.00.000166.00.htm
Unless I am missing somthing, then I have to side with the husband although my heart goes out to everyone as this pretty much just stinks up one side and down the other, there are no winner in something like this.
Mr. Mengle, You call yourself a 'Goldwater Republican' but you're really a Hitler Socialist.
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