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Opinion: Apple -- Here to Stay
MacCentral ^ | March 08, 2005 | Don Tennant

Posted on 03/08/2005 12:06:04 PM PST by r5boston

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To: calex59

I am curious, take a look at Xandros V3 and see how close that Distro is coming to what YOU want?


21 posted on 03/08/2005 12:50:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: MikeinIraq
sure thing man....whatever you say... if you count the IPod, it does. Easily.

You know Microsoft had to ban them in their corporate headquarters right?

I don't know where you get your information, but that's just plain ridiculous. I have friends that work at the MS corporate campus -- and they some of them use their iPods at work routinely.

I am a Windows administrator and I think that Macs are better so what does that tell you?

Whoop-dee-doo. Pat yourself on the back. Macs are overpriced boutique toys.
22 posted on 03/08/2005 12:56:01 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: calex59
Soon, real soon, linux will be a big competitor to Windows.

Would you care to predict which year that will happen?
23 posted on 03/08/2005 12:58:31 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: HAL9000
That's not correct. The newest Macs cost $499, and they're selling fast.

Said the Apple shill.
24 posted on 03/08/2005 12:59:11 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: bikepacker67
Not only that... their trying to ban them from their new operating system (Longhorn)

Yeah, and give my regards to the Grassy Knoll shooter, conspiracy boy...
25 posted on 03/08/2005 1:00:42 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: MikeinIraq
Microsoft is the one on the ropes right now.

Microsoft is not on the ropes. It's not even near the ropes. There is room in the market for Mac, Linux and Windows. No one is going under anytime soon.

26 posted on 03/08/2005 1:01:07 PM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Bush2000

"Whoop-dee-doo. Pat yourself on the back. Macs are overpriced boutique toys."

Macs are not toys-- they used to be overpriced but they are coming closer in line with PC's. But there is a trade-off for the price you pay: an OS that is clearly superior to any Windows version, and simplicity of set up and use. If that's worth it to you (as it is me) you gladly pay the extra money.

I've used Macs for 15 years and owned four. I just like a premium product.


27 posted on 03/08/2005 1:01:46 PM PST by agooga
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To: Glenn

Glenn, please don't shatter anyone's delusions. I'd prefer it if people thought that Macs were serious competition to PCs. It makes these threads more interesting...


28 posted on 03/08/2005 1:02:15 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: r5boston
I would drop Windows in a New York minute and go to Linux or Mac except for three things:

Games

Games,

and Games.

And I'm not the only one by a long shot.

29 posted on 03/08/2005 1:06:23 PM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: agooga

Your rhetoric doesn't meet reality. Look inside your Mac. You'll find most of the same equipment that you find inside an equivalent PC. Its so-called "superiority" is primarily a product of your imagination. I don't have issues with Windows or my PC. But, then again, I buy good hardware, I don't install unknown crapware from email and the Web, I use a firewall, and my machine receives automatic updates, as needed. No maintenance required. You Mac fanboys are living in some kind of reality distortion field, circa 1995.


30 posted on 03/08/2005 1:08:57 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: zoomie2
I also understand that MAC's are not backward compatible????? Like old software doesn't run on newer MAC's????

It depends on what you're talking about. Apple did do a 100% operating system switchover a few years back, meaning none of the old programs will run natively. There are a couple ways around this. One, you can run the old Mac OS under the new Mac OS, running your application within it (actually getting better performance than running the old OS alone). From the developer side, most applications could be easily tweaked to run under the new OS through a compatibility API (published long before the OS was released so everyone could get their apps ready), although most have been more extensively modified to run under OS X natively.

But all of this is why the OS is so good -- they threw out the old trash. Meanwhile, Windows is still burdened with old, nasty architecture problems because it is still backwards compatible.

31 posted on 03/08/2005 1:14:25 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bush2000

Read the flippin' link, wiseass boy.


32 posted on 03/08/2005 1:16:37 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: Mr. K

Macs are probably the better machine but most software now is being developed to run primarily on Windows based PCs. Trying to bridge the gap is a major league headache so most companies have phased out Macs. 25 years ago Beta was better quality than VHS but VHS had the 6 hour mode and was cheaper. Economics/Marketplace 101.


33 posted on 03/08/2005 1:17:56 PM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: Uncle Fud

I bought a Play station for games. That seems to be working out pretty well for me as I haven't even fired up my windows machine in over 2 years.


34 posted on 03/08/2005 1:27:26 PM PST by Betis70 (I'll drink no wine before it's quitting time)
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To: MikeinIraq
Huh? Where are you getting your numbers from? Linux is mostly taking server market share from UNIX, not from Windows.

Windows in the server space will be around 60% in 3 years. I don't know where it currently is.

Windows will be untouched on the desktop for at least the next half decade and possibly a full decade. Linux won't rise to the occasion anytime soon and Mac never will.

35 posted on 03/08/2005 1:28:30 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: MikeinIraq
if you count the IPod, it does. Easily.

Uh...what product of Microsoft's does the Ipod compete with?

36 posted on 03/08/2005 1:29:22 PM PST by Melas
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To: 80 Square Miles
Even more curious, MSFT's market cap is over $275,000,000,000.00 and AAPL's market cap is 33,000,000,000.00.

DUH!

37 posted on 03/08/2005 1:30:34 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: MikeinIraq
I am a Windows administrator and I think that Macs are better so what does that tell you?

That you're an individual with an opinion. Boy, that was a tough one.

38 posted on 03/08/2005 1:31:31 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: antiRepublicrat
they threw out the old trash...

LOL. When it was current it wasn't trash. Those of us who ran NT 4.0 starting about 1995 had a significant period of 32 bit reliability before MAC got to OS10. I haven't had a PC crash due to software in nearly 10 years.

39 posted on 03/08/2005 1:31:42 PM PST by js1138
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To: bikepacker67

Here's a clue, fanboy. The conspiracy theory put forth by your "source" posits that MS is trying to lock out iPods in order to give its online music store an edge. There's no support for such a theory. The technology cited is optional and policy-driven by system administrators -- not Microsoft -- so, by all means, give my regards to Grassy Knoll...


40 posted on 03/08/2005 1:32:23 PM PST by Bush2000
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