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Italy steps up row with US over slain secret agent
Times Online ^ | 3/8/05 | Phillipe Naughton

Posted on 03/08/2005 10:13:31 AM PST by Crackingham

Gianfranco Fini, the Italian Foreign Minister, increased a diplomatic row with the United States today by demanding that Washington identify and punish those responsible for the shooting of Rome’s top intelligence agent in Iraq. Signor Fini dismissed the American version that a lack of communication was responsible for the death of Nicola Calipari, who died in a hail of gunfire from US troops as he escorted a freed Italian hostage to Baghdad airport on Friday. Signor Calipari had made "all the necessary contacts" with US authorities in Baghdad, the minister said.

In his account to parliament of the shooting, which has sparked a diplomatic row with the US, Signor Fini said: "The reconstruction of the event does not coincide fully with what the American authorities have told us."

He said that the car carrying Signor Calipari and the freed hostage, Guiliana Sgrena, to freedom was not speeding and was not ordered to stop by US troops, as American officials have indicated. He also dismissed as "groundless" a suggestion from Signora Sgrena, the hostage in question, that American forces had ambushed the car because they disagreed with Italy's policy of paying the ransom demands of Iraqi kidnappers.

Italy reportedly paid more than $6 million (£3.1 million) for Signora Sgrena's release, which was negotiated by Signor Calipari himself.

"The car was travelling at a velocity that couldn't have been more than 40 kilometres (25 miles) per hour," Signor Fini said.

Rejecting the ambush claim, Signor Fini said: "It was an accident. This does not prevent - in fact it makes it a duty - for the Government to demand that light be shed on the murky issues, that responsibilities be pinpointed, and, where found, that the culprits be punished.

"We ask for truth and justice."

The minister took pains to point out, however, that Italy has an "old and empathetic friendship" with the United States, adding: "We hope that that within the next few hours this affirmed wish for loyal co-operation will yield its first major concrete result.

"We hope that this is not an opportunity to whip up political campaigns and to sow anti-American sentiment in public opinion, which certainly have no reason to exist."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Nate1984

Very good questions. I don't know if he was the head of intelligence or not. If he was, that makes it all the odder.


81 posted on 03/08/2005 1:17:54 PM PST by elli1
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To: elli1

That's an old picture of the car she was kidnapped in originally. That was shown, incorrectly, yesterday as the car that was involved in the checkpoint incident. But, there are more update photos online.


82 posted on 03/08/2005 1:35:12 PM PST by Jackson57
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To: elli1

That's not the car.


83 posted on 03/08/2005 1:36:52 PM PST by Jackson57
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To: mewzilla

" A U.S. official said that of all the cars that passed through the checkpoint that night, the reporter's vehicle was the only one fired upon.
"Something that car did caused the soldiers to fire," said the official, who asked not to be named. "


84 posted on 03/08/2005 1:39:16 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: Crackingham
I'm getting really sick of hearing this Communist Propagandist called a reporter. This woman didn't report she proselytized communism. I seriously doubt that she was really kidnapped at all.
85 posted on 03/08/2005 1:40:02 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Crackingham
"The car was travelling at a velocity that couldn't have been more than 40 kilometres (25 miles) per hour," Signor Fini said.

How does he know?

86 posted on 03/08/2005 1:42:48 PM PST by eyespysomething (Vous pouvez vous rendre au garde de securite!)
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To: Crackingham

I caught a few minutes of this lying woman on CNN this am. She was saying, "It's not for me to say it was an ambush. But it looked like an ambush. They did ambush us. It was an ambush. We were only going 20 mph, They were on the side of the road, and we had no idea it was a checkpoint. They were more or less hiding there, as if in ambush. The soldiers didn't signal, shine lights of warning or call out or shoot warning shots in the air. They tried to kill us. We were targeted."

CNN said she had no proof to back up her claims, and that US soldiers said they were driving at a high speed, ignored warning lights, shouts, waved arms, and warning shots. Finally, after trying all that, the soldiers fired into the engine block to stop the car. CNN made no comment about the Italian woman's account being ridiculous, clearly with an anti-American agenda, and that she probably ordered the driver to play 'chicken' at the checkpost to achieve an 'incident'. No speculation from CNN about the likelihood of what really happened, just deadpan repeating of that woman's lies. But they did say that several people had been killed at checkpoints since January, that people get confused and frightened and try to blow past soldiers, which gets them killed.

But we're not dealing with an uneducated, illiterate Iraqi here, we're dealing with a so called journalist who supposedly can read and write and speak English. So what didn't she understand about STOP OR WE'LL SHOOT!


87 posted on 03/08/2005 1:55:03 PM PST by hershey
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To: mewzilla

Okay, if CNN and the Foreign Minister are now calling it an accident, that means they believe the US soldiers, not that lying sack of Italian humbug, who intimated yesterday that the US had targeted her because they didn't approve of ransoms being paid in kidnap cases.


88 posted on 03/08/2005 1:57:29 PM PST by hershey
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Just posted this on another thread for discussion; thought I'd post it here as well. As I'm looking at the pics here and on the other thread (Sgrena's Car!) and trying to reconstruct the "crime scene", here's what I'm wondering about. The bullet holes all look to be towards the front of the car, with some on the driver's side and one that went directly through the driver's windshield near the wiper, if I'm interpreting the circle in one of the photos correctly. According to Sgrena's account, "Nicola Calipari sat next to me. . .The driver started yelling that we were Italians. 'We are Italians, we are Italians.' Nicola Calipari threw himself on me to protect me and immediately, I repeat, immediately I heard his last breath as he was dying on me." Now it appears Calipari, the slain agent, was distinct from the driver, for the driver was quoted in an interview after the incident: "According to Italy's leading daily Corriere della Sera, the driver, an unidentified Italian agent, said: 'We were driving slowly, about 40-50 km/h (25-30 mph).'": Italian journalist freed in Iraq. So were Sgrena and Calipari squeezed into the front with the driver or in the back seat? If in the back, where are the bullet holes for the shots that killed Calipari? If in front, and if there's a bullet hole in the driver side of the windshield, how is it the driver's alive to be interviewed but Calipari's the one who's dead?
89 posted on 03/08/2005 2:09:56 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Jackson57

That's not the car.

I know. If I followed the confusing discussion at LGF correctly, that car isn't even the one she was kidnapped in. According to them, the car in the photos was hit by the kidnappers' car.

90 posted on 03/08/2005 2:10:55 PM PST by elli1
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To: Blowtorch

Just read a Rowan Scarborough column in the WT...he said 'pickup' and that the 'truck' was being shipped back to Italy 'for examination by ballistic experts'.

At this point, looks like the vehicle in question is anybody's guess.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050308-121240-1847r.htm


91 posted on 03/08/2005 2:24:20 PM PST by elli1
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To: BushisTheMan

The whole reason they kept it from the Americans is they KNOW our policy on paying off these people (thus FUNDING more attacks)

Don't play with fire kids... you know what might happen.


92 posted on 03/08/2005 2:42:24 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: elli1

Yeah, it was a bit confusing on LGF yesterday when they were posting photos of that car. Actually, THAT car looks in even worse shape than the car that was shot up by "300 - 400" rounds, huh?


93 posted on 03/08/2005 2:55:32 PM PST by Jackson57
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To: Brian328i

"We ought to tell them, 'Sorry for his death, but thats what happens when you pay TERRORISTS'."

This shooting had nothing to do with the payment to the terrorists. If it had....the woman would be dead.


94 posted on 03/08/2005 3:05:31 PM PST by Arpege92 (Mr. Kerry, you are a jerk!" - Pat Sajak)
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To: Jackson57

For sure. Least they took this one to the car wash.


95 posted on 03/08/2005 3:12:26 PM PST by elli1
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To: Arpege92

96 posted on 03/08/2005 3:14:07 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: edskid

WOW! I missed that completely! Great point! Exactly who is this leftist praying to?


97 posted on 03/08/2005 3:43:42 PM PST by Enterprise (President George W. Bush - the leading insurgent detergent.)
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To: Fedora

I think the woman was driving and tried to ram or run the checkpoint.

I think Cipriani was shot trying to grab the steering wheel.


98 posted on 03/08/2005 4:35:02 PM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Crackingham

They have just been looking for an excuse.


99 posted on 03/08/2005 4:37:13 PM PST by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Crackingham

"We ask for truth and justice."
=----
Justice would have been death to all the ransom-payers.

Italy has no shame.


100 posted on 03/08/2005 4:38:44 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Open borders=National suicide)
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