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President Bush pardons eight, including convicted bootlegger
WBAY.com ^ | 3/04/05

Posted on 03/04/2005 2:16:48 PM PST by Libloather

Bush pardons eight, including convicted bootlegger

WASHINGTON - President Bush has acted to pardon eight people, including a man convicted of bootlegging 45 years ago.

It's the first round of clemency orders in the president's second term -- and brings his total since taking office to 39 pardons and sentence commutations.

Those pardoned include three men from Texas, and one each from New York, Florida, New Mexico, North Dakota and South Dakota.

Their offenses range from misusing mortgage funds to theft of government property. The bootlegger, Charles Russell Cooper of Corpus Christi, Texas, was given three years' probation.

By historical standards, Bush has issued relatively few pardons. Most presidents issue hundreds. Bill Clinton gave out 456, including 176 on his last day as president.

Franklin Roosevelt issued the most pardons -- more than three-thousand during his four terms. Only two presidents never pardoned anyone -- James Garfield and William Henry Harrison.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bootlegger; bush; clemency; convicted; eight; including; pardons; president; term2
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To: antiRepublicrat
Don't go there unless you also check out Bush Sr.'s pardons, including a large-scale drug dealer and a known terrorist who bombed an airliner.

We certainly will go there.

BTW, it is up to you to back up your claim with documentation.

41 posted on 03/04/2005 2:58:33 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Deguello
Even then as now, some counties or parts of Texas counties are "dry". Some are dryer than others. Some can sell packaged beer, some can add wine and some with liquor but not by the drink. The dryest have no sales of any type.

From the web -

Bootlegging
In Texas, this means transporting alcoholic beverages into a “dry” area with intent to sell them. If you are transporting more than one quart of liquor, 24 12-ounce bottles of beer or the equivalent of 228 ounces into a dry area, the legal presumption is that you intend to sell it. An eight gallon keg contains 1024 ounces, and parts of Lubbock County are dry.

Punishment: minimum $100 fine or confinement in county jail for up to 12 months or both.

http://www.campuslife.ttu.edu/ReadyReferences/legal_issues/alcohol_concerns.asp

42 posted on 03/04/2005 2:58:47 PM PST by Libloather (The left is dead! Long live their impeached *King and *Queen!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"Bootlegging is essentially tax evasion."

The example does not apply here. Bootlegging is still going on here in Texas.

You live in Bronte, your neighbor is going into San Angelo to buy beer. He picks up a few cases for you and someone else and ya'll pay him back when gets back into town. He is now a bootlegger. The tax was paid for state & federal.

43 posted on 03/04/2005 3:01:57 PM PST by Deguello
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To: Libloather
Are you here to tell me Bush did not pardon any P.R.terrorist.Oh i forgot Laura is not running For senator of NY.
44 posted on 03/04/2005 3:05:05 PM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats are parasites)
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To: sittnick

Beer Run lyrics
From the album Unknown album

twenty-five minutes past quitting time
Seven of us crammed into that truck of mine
Paying no attention to them highway signs
Doing ninety miles an hour toward the county line
Quick sack, twelve pack, back again
It's a b double e double r-u-n.

My buddies and their babies letting down their hair
As long as we're together is don't matter where
Ain't got a lot of money but we just don't care
Knowing half the fun is in the getting there
Aztec, long necks, paychecks spent
Oh, it's a b double e double r-u-n.
I can't stop thinking
What the hell they were drinking
Whan they made this county dry
I got a week-long thirst
And to make it worse
Lord, it's my turn to drive

Laughing and bragging and a' carrying on
We loaded up the wagons and we headed home
I guess half a dozen cases doesn't last that long
Come tomorrow morning it'll be all gone
Them, it's turn around, leave town, sounds again
Like a b double e double r-u-n.


Garth Brooks ;)


45 posted on 03/04/2005 3:12:27 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Libloather

Bush breaks the rules. Pardons don't come on his last day in office.

If you've gotta pardon someone, seems like it ought to be someone who was convicted of bootlegging 45 years ago.


46 posted on 03/04/2005 3:12:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Deguello
"The example does not apply here. Bootlegging is still going on here in Texas.

You live in Bronte, your neighbor is going into San Angelo to buy beer. He picks up a few cases for you and someone else and ya'll pay him back when gets back into town. He is now a bootlegger. The tax was paid for state & federal."

Boy, the state line really is the end of the earth for you Texans, isn't it? I understand what you're saying and did hastily try to clarify my point (see #39).

Do you have any of the details on the guy Bush pardoned and what he was doing?

47 posted on 03/04/2005 3:14:46 PM PST by Joe 6-pack ("It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Probably drove thru a dry county."

Yes and in a lot of dry counties, the sheriff was the biggest bootlegger.
48 posted on 03/04/2005 3:17:44 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: Brilliant

"If you've gotta pardon someone, seems like it ought to be someone who was convicted of bootlegging 45 years ago."

I totally agree.


49 posted on 03/04/2005 3:18:15 PM PST by Irish Rose (Some people march to the beat of a different drummer. And some people tango!)
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To: Indie

Track 18 - Bootlegging Blues

50 posted on 03/04/2005 3:24:40 PM PST by Libloather (The left is dead! Long live their impeached *King and *Queen!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Don't go there unless you also check out Bush Sr.'s pardons, including a large-scale drug dealer and a known terrorist who bombed an airliner.

Nah, let's do go there. Who were these people? Tell us something about them. Even if it's all true, I was never a big fan of Bush the Elder to begin with.

51 posted on 03/04/2005 3:33:56 PM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Libloather

Bill Clinton's hands give me the creeps. I can't stand a soft handed man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


52 posted on 03/04/2005 3:57:53 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: HAL9000
"Bill Clinton gave out sold 456, including 176 on his last day as president."

This included Mark Rich who was recently named as a player in the UN Oil for Food Scandal.

He was only trying to pay off his debt to Clinton.

53 posted on 03/04/2005 4:00:21 PM PST by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: RadioAstronomer; sergeantdave

LOL!!!!


54 posted on 03/04/2005 5:05:34 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SF Republican
was not bootlegging the start of NASCAR - ie Jr Johnson down in Carolina trying to out run the local revenuers

I've heard those rumors, too! :)

Robert Mitchum - Ballad of Thunder Road.....

"...about the mountain boy that ran illegal alcohol...

His Daddy made the whiskey......

Son, he drove the load.......

When his engine roared they called the highway, Thunder Road."

For some reason, I've always thought of Junior Johnson as the Son, in that tune. Just me.

Oh, yes. Nascar has a skeleton or two in the closet!

And that makes it all the better. At least it did, until the advent of the "Young Guns".

Blah.

Forgive me for rambling on. I like Nascar. In fact, starting the 11th of March, I, my 10 yr old son, and two very close friends from the hometown - are going to live - eat - breath Nascar for 3 glorious days.

Did I mention that I like Nascar?

Come on Mark Martin - Dale Jarrett - Sterlin Marlin - Rusty Wallace. The "veterans"!!

LVM

55 posted on 03/04/2005 5:38:06 PM PST by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: RadioAstronomer
I had an orange satin tux (black sequens on the lapels) with tails once.

Good God! How awful! But then you are talking to a woman who forced her husband to wear jeans to the wedding.

56 posted on 03/04/2005 6:35:06 PM PST by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: Irish Rose

Yes, a man spends 45 years in jail for hauling some liquor. But a pedophile goes free because the victim (molested at age 3) died in a car accident.


57 posted on 03/04/2005 8:21:18 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq (Reggie, we will always love you.)
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To: Irish Rose

Yes, a man spends 45 years in jail for hauling some liquor. But a pedophile goes free because the victim (molested at age 3) died in a car accident.

Sick.


58 posted on 03/04/2005 8:21:27 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq (Reggie, we will always love you.)
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To: upchuck

That's really cruel. You should be locked in stocks and whipped.


59 posted on 03/04/2005 8:42:15 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: Zhangliqun; cyncooper; Imaverygooddriver

The terrorist was Orlando Bosch, then in jail for entering the US illegally. He wasn't allowed in because he was a known terrorist and advocate of violence, suspected of bombing a Cuban airliner in 1976, killing 76 people. Since Bosch was staunchly anti-Castro, the Florida anti-Castro community had been lobbying for his release for a while, trying to portray him as a freedom fighter. They finally succeeded when a business associate of theirs, one Jeb Bush, lobbied on their behalf.

Bush also freed Aslam Adam, a Pakistani serving a 55 year sentence for importing $1.5 million of heroin into the United States.


60 posted on 03/04/2005 8:42:25 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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