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CNN's Inside Politics: Rep. Maurice Hinchey uncovers major Karl Rove plot!
CNN Transcripts ^ | Wednesday, February 23, 2005

Posted on 02/23/2005 4:42:10 AM PST by JohnHuang2

WOODRUFF: As we reported a little while ago in our blog segment, the Internet is abuzz with reaction to comments by New York Democratic Congressman Maurice Hinchey. The congressman over the weekend shared his views about the now disputed CBS News report about President Bush's Air National Guard service. Representative Maurice Hinchey is with me now, he joins us from Albany, New York.

Congressman Hinchey, what exactly did you say on Saturday at this town meeting in Ithaca?

REP. MAURICE HINCHEY (D), NEW YORK: Well, Judy, what I said came in response to a question from one of my constituents. There were about 100 people there. And they asked some questions about media manipulation. They were concerned about the issue of Armstrong Williams, for example, people being hired by this administration to pretend that they were giving objective news and information but were really putting forth the point of view of the administration rather than doing it objectively. And also the issue with Mr. Gannon, who was admitted to the White House press corps but who was not a legitimate press person, and was there just to throw softballs to the president.

And then the issue of the CBS Dan Rather event came up, and I said that there were false documents or documents which were falsified and presented as being accurate and there was a question as to where those documents came from. And in the context of the discussion I suggested that -- my theory was that I wouldn't be surprised if it came from the White House political operation, headed up by Karl Rove.

WOODRUFF: Well, I'm reading here a transcript of what you said, you said: "I have my own beliefs about how that

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1 posted on 02/23/2005 4:42:10 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Karl Rove evil genius strikes again?
2 posted on 02/23/2005 4:43:44 AM PST by William of Orange (Jerome Corsi: "Mullah Ali'Gore-ah is very proud of his new Bin Laden beard.")
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To: William of Orange

;-)


3 posted on 02/23/2005 4:44:43 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Hinchey is such a joke. But then, so's his district.


4 posted on 02/23/2005 4:44:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: JohnHuang2

how old is judy woodruff now....about 90 ?


5 posted on 02/23/2005 4:45:43 AM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

LOL!


6 posted on 02/23/2005 4:46:25 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: mewzilla
Hinchey is such a joke.

Look up 'Moonbat' in the dictionary; next to it is Hinchey's picture.

7 posted on 02/23/2005 4:47:42 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

LOL. I met the guy once. Afterwards I felt the need for a shower.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 4:48:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: kingattax

Uh, I believe she is known here as Judy Woof Woof.


9 posted on 02/23/2005 4:48:32 AM PST by truthchaser
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To: JohnHuang2

Karl had nothing to do with it. I set Rather up.


10 posted on 02/23/2005 4:50:03 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: truthchaser

dog lovers should be really insulted over that.


11 posted on 02/23/2005 4:51:09 AM PST by kingattax
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To: JohnHuang2
HINCHEY: I think it's very responsible of me to speculate about where this manipulation is coming from. Yes. I think it's important to speculate about it, I think it's important to discuss it and I think it's important to try to stimulate the investigative agencies to look into this.

Hmmm, So now we need to all speculate and get our theories on the air?

12 posted on 02/23/2005 4:51:19 AM PST by marvlus
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To: JohnHuang2
Hinchey says in the transcript:

I'm quite surprised, frankly, that this has gotten all the attention that it has

They still don't get it. They're going to be called on it every time they spew their bile.

Long live the pajamahadeen

13 posted on 02/23/2005 4:52:49 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: JohnHuang2

This is the stuff of novels.


14 posted on 02/23/2005 4:53:02 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: truthchaser

“We begin with the news from the White House that President Bush knew that al Qaeda was planning to hijack a U.S. airliner and he knew it before September the 11th.”
– Judy Woodruff on CNN’s NewsNight, May 15. [74]


One quote from Judy the Moonbat. I believe that she was off her meds here.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 4:53:35 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Here is the text of one of the fake memos they were afraid to use.

"Today President Lieutenant Bush was late for drill. His excuse was that he had to meet with Dick Cheney some college buddies. I told W Lt. Bush that I may have to write him up. I hope this never falls into the wrong hands in the future.

Signed

Bush's Commander"

I think that CBS got suspicious about the college buddies not having names.
16 posted on 02/23/2005 4:58:02 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: truthchaser

Now that is what they call a "Classic"!

About made me choke on my cuppa, that one did.


17 posted on 02/23/2005 5:01:22 AM PST by crz
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To: JohnHuang2

Eventually political impotence will lead to paranoia amongst the Donks. Their self destruction proceeds apace.


18 posted on 02/23/2005 5:03:27 AM PST by gridlock (If a man says something while alone in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?)
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To: JohnHuang2

Unfortunately, the Congress is not doing its job. There are -- this is something that ought to be investigated by the Congress of the United States. But this Congress is not doing its job. It's not standing up for the American people the way it should. And, as a consequence, there is a certain amount of frustration out there and that frustration was voiced by the people who attended the meeting that I held last Saturday.

====
well, we all screamed about our reps and senators no confronting CBS's slanders, and the FCC not threatening to pull CBS's license over the manipulation of news to attempt to turn the election...

so I guess we are in agreement there.....


19 posted on 02/23/2005 5:03:29 AM PST by bitt ("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
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To: marvlus; All
Hmmm, So now we need to all speculate and get our theories on the air?

Since Hinchey wants to speculate, has anyone heard the rumor that Hinchy has a "secret" interest in a construction company that tends to get a lot of work on Federal, State, and/or municipal projects within his district, and that Hinchey uses his political weight to ensure that the construction company gets plenty of work and is always paid on time?

20 posted on 02/23/2005 5:04:20 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Maybe you're Karl Rove!

He's everywhere, I tell you! Everywhere!!!

21 posted on 02/23/2005 5:05:30 AM PST by gridlock (If a man says something while alone in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?)
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To: Labyrinthos

Well, given that Hinchey is a Member of Congress and Members of Congress have been known to do such things in the past, I think it is only reasonable to speculate that, given his position, it is certainly possible that Mr. Hinchey may have been doing what you have described.

Or not. Who knows?


22 posted on 02/23/2005 5:07:41 AM PST by gridlock (If a man says something while alone in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?)
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To: JohnHuang2

I bet Karl's sides hurt from laughing.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 5:09:44 AM PST by msnimje
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To: JohnHuang2
Amazing! Last time I checked, williams was a conservative pundit and columnist, not an objective newsperson like woodruff or rather.

this nut job, can't even get one sentence out without a lie or distortion.

Still, amazing that judy called him even on the rove fantasy.Still, he should be careful of what he wishes for. A real investigation will likely tie this to kerry.

24 posted on 02/23/2005 5:11:27 AM PST by cb
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To: gridlock

I'm not Karl Rove. I am Dick Cheney but please keep it quiet.

Thanks

Dick


25 posted on 02/23/2005 5:12:58 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: JohnHuang2; Howlin; William of Orange; mewzilla; Conspiracy Guy
Karl Rove Evil Genius Ping ----

WOODRUFF to Hinchey: But, at this point, it is just imagination, is that correct?

Yes.... as the Rolling Stones used to say:

****

It was just my imagination, once again

Running away with me

It was just my imagination

Running away with me

****

This Hinchey guy is "out there".

26 posted on 02/23/2005 5:13:20 AM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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To: JohnHuang2
Oh, no! It's the EVIL Dr. Rove again!


27 posted on 02/23/2005 5:15:04 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: beyond the sea

I feed him this idea in a fake memo, from Karl Rove to me. The whole plot is to make Hinchey look even dumber than before. Please don't let this get out.

Sincerely

Dick Cheney
VP USA


28 posted on 02/23/2005 5:23:39 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: mewzilla

The Congress is filled with these jokes. Hell: I can hardly find the time to name all of them. We all know them Dems and Rino's.


29 posted on 02/23/2005 5:24:02 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: gridlock

Here he is with an inscrutible smile. He is sort of Yoda for our side. Should the dims ever hunt us down betray and murder us he will retreat to a bog state (maybe Louisiana) where he will train new young jedi knights.

30 posted on 02/23/2005 5:25:27 AM PST by xp38
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To: William of Orange
Time for truth? My first thought last fall was, "they've stepped into Rove's trap." Sure, probably not. But if they did, doesn't that make the indictment of CBS just as large? That CBS would fall for it?

People thinking it's an indictment of Rove don't realize that the culprit is not Rove (if true), but, ahem, the repository of wisdom in our age, Mr. Rather.

31 posted on 02/23/2005 5:26:03 AM PST by jammer
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To: Obadiah
This Congressman really does not know just what he is saying about Karl Rove.

If he could pull this scam off he is truly a genius.
32 posted on 02/23/2005 5:27:38 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: sgtbono2002

I've met a few Congress critters in my day. Hinchey's the only one so far, though, who left me afterwards with the desperate desire to bathe.


33 posted on 02/23/2005 5:28:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Labyrinthos

Hinchey and Weasley Clark.......perfect together.......graduates of the michaelmoore school of disinformation.


34 posted on 02/23/2005 5:29:19 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: beyond the sea

um....wasn't that a Temptations hit?


35 posted on 02/23/2005 5:30:20 AM PST by xp38
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To: JohnHuang2

If there was ever any doubt that many of our elected representatives (predominately the dem/liberal ones) are among the dumbest people on the planet...


36 posted on 02/23/2005 5:31:53 AM PST by Sicon
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To: xp38
Here he is with an inscrutible smile. He is sort of Yoda for our side.

May The Source be with you...

37 posted on 02/23/2005 5:40:03 AM PST by gridlock (If a man says something while alone in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?)
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To: JohnHuang2
This story has been all over Little Green Footballs for the past few days, if anyone wants further information. An LGF poster heard Hinchey make his tinfoil statements.
38 posted on 02/23/2005 5:47:19 AM PST by Darnright
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Here's the meat of it:

WOODRUFF: Well, I'm reading here a transcript of what you said, you said: "I have my own beliefs about how that happened. It originated with Karl Rove in my belief in the White House." What do you know that you base that on?

HINCHEY: Well, I think there's a great deal of circumstantial information and factual information. Mr. Rove, for example, has been involved in a host of political dirty tricks that are traceable back -- all the way back to the 1970s, '80s, '90s, right on up to the present. The way in which he treated Senator McCain, for example, in the context of the 2000 election.

So it doesn't take an awful lot of imagination if you're thinking about who it is that might have produced these false documents to try to mislead people in this very cynical way. It would take someone very brilliant, very cynical, very Machiavellian, and it doesn't take a lot of imagination to come up with the name of Karl Rove as a possibility of having done that.

WOODRUFF: But, at this point, it is just imagination, is that correct?

HINCHEY: It's a possibility, yes. It's a possibility based upon circumstantial evidence and the history of his behavior over the course of several decades.

WOODRUFF: Well, you know, there was an independent panel that CBS asked to look into this -- you know, to look into how CBS got these documents, what went wrong with the story that appears on "60 MINUTES." They were not able to conclude where these documents came from. They said, finally, they weren't even able to determine whether these documents were authentic or whether they were forged. So my question is, how are you in a position to know more than they or others who have investigated this now?

HINCHEY: Well, Judy, no one has come to any conclusions and that's the unfortunate thing. We need to get to the bottom of this. We need to get to the bottom of the whole business of manipulating the media that has gone on in the context of this administration.

I think that that's critically important. The essence of this democracy is really at stake. If people sitting back in their living rooms can't rely upon the information they're getting over the news channel or over the radio, then very important aspects of this Democratic system become eroded.

So, we need to get to the bottom of it, that's the point here. I'm quite surprised, frankly, that this has gotten all the attention that it has, but in a way I'm grateful that it has because it's important for us to be concerned about these things. Manipulating the media in this kind of a cynical way is antithetical to what we stand for as a nation, we need to find out who did it.

WOODRUFF: But some would say, listening to what you said and hearing your acknowledgment that you don't have any proof, that it's irresponsible or -- let me ask you, do you think it's responsible for you to say this without evidence?

HINCHEY: I think it's very responsible of me to speculate about where this manipulation is coming from. Yes. I think it's important to speculate about it, I think it's important to discuss it and I think it's important to try to stimulate the investigative agencies to look into this.

Unfortunately, the Congress is not doing its job. There are -- this is something that ought to be investigated by the Congress of the United States. But this Congress is not doing its job. It's not standing up for the American people the way it should. And, as a consequence, there is a certain amount of frustration out there and that frustration was voiced by the people who attended the meeting that I held last Saturday.

WOODRUFF: We're going to have to leave it there, Congressman Maurice Hinchey. And again, we did try to reach the White House to get their comment on all of this, we were not able to get a comment from them.

The scary part is that these nuts are running our country.

39 posted on 02/23/2005 5:48:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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I never met Hinchley, I have met others, its amazing how like chameleons they take on the color of the crowd they are with. You would be amazed at how they praise the country and our flag when they are with veterans, but they wont pass a flag amendment.


40 posted on 02/23/2005 5:49:36 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: JohnHuang2

I would have liked to hear Woodruff point out to Hinchey that making wild-a$$ed accusations wihout any substantive evidence is, in itself, a manipulation of the media.


41 posted on 02/23/2005 5:50:15 AM PST by Jackson57
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To: JohnHuang2

"And in the context of the discussion I suggested that -- my theory was that I wouldn't be surprised if it came from the White House political operation, headed up by Karl Rove."

Theoretical clap trap.

Thinking is not the DEMS strong suit.


42 posted on 02/23/2005 5:50:21 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Sicon
If there was ever any doubt that many of our elected representatives (predominately the dem/liberal ones) are among the dumbest people on the planet...

Rove just makes them look that way. That is part of his genius.

43 posted on 02/23/2005 5:51:11 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: JohnHuang2

If Rather's crime/treason had succeeded, would Rove still get some credit? Just kinda wondering.


44 posted on 02/23/2005 5:55:55 AM PST by Waco
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To: mewzilla

Hinchey, a member in good standing of the Democrat's Progressive (i.e., Marxist) caucus has for years sought to reduce the CIA to nothingness. He initiated an investigation of CIA activity in Chile, hoping to prove that it was involved in the death of Marxist leader Salvador Allende. It failed.
His efforts to discredit the White House are dilusional, and this Rove business is just another indication that term limits for Congressmen is a good idea.


45 posted on 02/23/2005 5:57:12 AM PST by gaspar (nwD)
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To: roaddog727

It's manipulation if "they" fall into it. Will Karl Rove be too busy in his new job to set the landmines for these Dems ? What a gull-a-bull, what a maroon, what a nincompoop!


46 posted on 02/23/2005 5:59:57 AM PST by griswold3
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To: JohnHuang2

Karl Rove seems to be the lefts #1 bogeyman. How long before we learn that he was behind:

the hacking of Paris Hilton's cell phone
the JFK assassination
the Iran embassy hostage taking
the replacement of Dick York with Dick Sargent on Bewitched
the mass suicide of the Jim Jones People's Temple cult in Guyana
the Bay of Pigs Invasion
New Coke
the Cuban Missile Crisis
the Love Canal
the Ford Pinto
the Arab Oil Embargo
the death of John Belushi
Britney Spears
the filming of Heaven's Gate, Ishtar and Gigli
the Chernobyl Disaster
the deaths of Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin
the Stock Market Crash of 1929
the Hindenburg
the Titanic
Disco Music
the Beatles breakup
Milli Vanilli
the Wardrobe Malfunction
Three Mile Island
the Challenger Disaster
Oil For Food
the replacement of Dick York with Dick Sargent on Bewitched
the Smokey and the Bandits movies
the plane crash that killed Buddy Holly, Richie Havens and the Big Bopper
the Mai Lai Massacre
the Soviet Union's Invasion of Afghanistan
Van Halen's replacement of David Lee Roth with Sammy Hagar
Clear Pepsi
Pete Rose
all Clinton scandals
Whip Inflation Now
the death of Marilyn Monroe
the Kent State Shootings
the kidnapping of Patty Hearst
the Attica Prison Riot
the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire
the 1972 AMC Ambassador
the Dust Bowl
the National Malaise speech of Jimmy Carter
Crack Cocaine
The Summer of Love
Joe Camel
the Gidget movies
the death of Che Guevera
Tail Hook
Duck and Cover
the unraveling of the Edmund Muskie campaign
Bigfoot


And the list continues to grow.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy indeed.


47 posted on 02/23/2005 6:04:41 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Liberalism kills.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Judy Woodruff to play lead in upcoming made-for-tv movie "Desperate News Anchors", a TBS production.


48 posted on 02/23/2005 6:14:42 AM PST by TeddyCon
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To: JohnHuang2

The Wall Street Journal has a good editorial today about the blowback from the media's insistence that the government investigate who "leaked" the identity of Valerie Plame.

Now comes a Democrat to say, of the CBS documents, that "this is something that ought to be investigated by the Congress of the United States."

Do these guys even think about what they are wishing for? They'll howl if they ever get it.

Yeah right, let's have the Congress "investigate" where the media is getting its documents. Let's drag reporters up to Capitol Hill and make them sit through grillings by grandstanding Senators. Intimidating the press? Naww, that's how we're gonna Save The Republic.

Democrats don't think. Everything is a short-term partisan spear: throw it now, face the consequences later.


49 posted on 02/23/2005 6:23:22 AM PST by Nick Danger (The only way out is through)
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To: bitt

And we still do not know who did it. How after all this time
can that possibly be true? Why arn't O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, Beck and all the other pundits demanding the answer.
The person or persons responsible for this should be facing
serious jail time. Forgery of government documents must be
a crime or maybe not. Just follow the trail back with the
threat of inditment if not forthcomming and you will get
the answer. Please what am I missing here?


50 posted on 02/23/2005 6:30:38 AM PST by SAWTEX
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