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1 posted on 02/23/2005 4:42:10 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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Karl Rove evil genius strikes again?
2 posted on 02/23/2005 4:43:44 AM PST by William of Orange (Jerome Corsi: "Mullah Ali'Gore-ah is very proud of his new Bin Laden beard.")
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Hinchey is such a joke. But then, so's his district.


4 posted on 02/23/2005 4:44:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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how old is judy woodruff now....about 90 ?


5 posted on 02/23/2005 4:45:43 AM PST by kingattax
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Karl had nothing to do with it. I set Rather up.


10 posted on 02/23/2005 4:50:03 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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HINCHEY: I think it's very responsible of me to speculate about where this manipulation is coming from. Yes. I think it's important to speculate about it, I think it's important to discuss it and I think it's important to try to stimulate the investigative agencies to look into this.

Hmmm, So now we need to all speculate and get our theories on the air?

12 posted on 02/23/2005 4:51:19 AM PST by marvlus
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Hinchey says in the transcript:

I'm quite surprised, frankly, that this has gotten all the attention that it has

They still don't get it. They're going to be called on it every time they spew their bile.

Long live the pajamahadeen

13 posted on 02/23/2005 4:52:49 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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This is the stuff of novels.


14 posted on 02/23/2005 4:53:02 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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Here is the text of one of the fake memos they were afraid to use.

"Today President Lieutenant Bush was late for drill. His excuse was that he had to meet with Dick Cheney some college buddies. I told W Lt. Bush that I may have to write him up. I hope this never falls into the wrong hands in the future.

Signed

Bush's Commander"

I think that CBS got suspicious about the college buddies not having names.
16 posted on 02/23/2005 4:58:02 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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Eventually political impotence will lead to paranoia amongst the Donks. Their self destruction proceeds apace.


18 posted on 02/23/2005 5:03:27 AM PST by gridlock (If a man says something while alone in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?)
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Unfortunately, the Congress is not doing its job. There are -- this is something that ought to be investigated by the Congress of the United States. But this Congress is not doing its job. It's not standing up for the American people the way it should. And, as a consequence, there is a certain amount of frustration out there and that frustration was voiced by the people who attended the meeting that I held last Saturday.

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well, we all screamed about our reps and senators no confronting CBS's slanders, and the FCC not threatening to pull CBS's license over the manipulation of news to attempt to turn the election...

so I guess we are in agreement there.....


19 posted on 02/23/2005 5:03:29 AM PST by bitt ("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
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I bet Karl's sides hurt from laughing.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 5:09:44 AM PST by msnimje
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Amazing! Last time I checked, williams was a conservative pundit and columnist, not an objective newsperson like woodruff or rather.

this nut job, can't even get one sentence out without a lie or distortion.

Still, amazing that judy called him even on the rove fantasy.Still, he should be careful of what he wishes for. A real investigation will likely tie this to kerry.

24 posted on 02/23/2005 5:11:27 AM PST by cb
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Karl Rove Evil Genius Ping ----

WOODRUFF to Hinchey: But, at this point, it is just imagination, is that correct?

Yes.... as the Rolling Stones used to say:

****

It was just my imagination, once again

Running away with me

It was just my imagination

Running away with me

****

This Hinchey guy is "out there".

26 posted on 02/23/2005 5:13:20 AM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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Oh, no! It's the EVIL Dr. Rove again!


27 posted on 02/23/2005 5:15:04 AM PST by Obadiah
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If there was ever any doubt that many of our elected representatives (predominately the dem/liberal ones) are among the dumbest people on the planet...


36 posted on 02/23/2005 5:31:53 AM PST by Sicon
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This story has been all over Little Green Footballs for the past few days, if anyone wants further information. An LGF poster heard Hinchey make his tinfoil statements.
38 posted on 02/23/2005 5:47:19 AM PST by Darnright
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Here's the meat of it:

WOODRUFF: Well, I'm reading here a transcript of what you said, you said: "I have my own beliefs about how that happened. It originated with Karl Rove in my belief in the White House." What do you know that you base that on?

HINCHEY: Well, I think there's a great deal of circumstantial information and factual information. Mr. Rove, for example, has been involved in a host of political dirty tricks that are traceable back -- all the way back to the 1970s, '80s, '90s, right on up to the present. The way in which he treated Senator McCain, for example, in the context of the 2000 election.

So it doesn't take an awful lot of imagination if you're thinking about who it is that might have produced these false documents to try to mislead people in this very cynical way. It would take someone very brilliant, very cynical, very Machiavellian, and it doesn't take a lot of imagination to come up with the name of Karl Rove as a possibility of having done that.

WOODRUFF: But, at this point, it is just imagination, is that correct?

HINCHEY: It's a possibility, yes. It's a possibility based upon circumstantial evidence and the history of his behavior over the course of several decades.

WOODRUFF: Well, you know, there was an independent panel that CBS asked to look into this -- you know, to look into how CBS got these documents, what went wrong with the story that appears on "60 MINUTES." They were not able to conclude where these documents came from. They said, finally, they weren't even able to determine whether these documents were authentic or whether they were forged. So my question is, how are you in a position to know more than they or others who have investigated this now?

HINCHEY: Well, Judy, no one has come to any conclusions and that's the unfortunate thing. We need to get to the bottom of this. We need to get to the bottom of the whole business of manipulating the media that has gone on in the context of this administration.

I think that that's critically important. The essence of this democracy is really at stake. If people sitting back in their living rooms can't rely upon the information they're getting over the news channel or over the radio, then very important aspects of this Democratic system become eroded.

So, we need to get to the bottom of it, that's the point here. I'm quite surprised, frankly, that this has gotten all the attention that it has, but in a way I'm grateful that it has because it's important for us to be concerned about these things. Manipulating the media in this kind of a cynical way is antithetical to what we stand for as a nation, we need to find out who did it.

WOODRUFF: But some would say, listening to what you said and hearing your acknowledgment that you don't have any proof, that it's irresponsible or -- let me ask you, do you think it's responsible for you to say this without evidence?

HINCHEY: I think it's very responsible of me to speculate about where this manipulation is coming from. Yes. I think it's important to speculate about it, I think it's important to discuss it and I think it's important to try to stimulate the investigative agencies to look into this.

Unfortunately, the Congress is not doing its job. There are -- this is something that ought to be investigated by the Congress of the United States. But this Congress is not doing its job. It's not standing up for the American people the way it should. And, as a consequence, there is a certain amount of frustration out there and that frustration was voiced by the people who attended the meeting that I held last Saturday.

WOODRUFF: We're going to have to leave it there, Congressman Maurice Hinchey. And again, we did try to reach the White House to get their comment on all of this, we were not able to get a comment from them.

The scary part is that these nuts are running our country.

39 posted on 02/23/2005 5:48:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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I would have liked to hear Woodruff point out to Hinchey that making wild-a$$ed accusations wihout any substantive evidence is, in itself, a manipulation of the media.


41 posted on 02/23/2005 5:50:15 AM PST by Jackson57
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"And in the context of the discussion I suggested that -- my theory was that I wouldn't be surprised if it came from the White House political operation, headed up by Karl Rove."

Theoretical clap trap.

Thinking is not the DEMS strong suit.


42 posted on 02/23/2005 5:50:21 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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If Rather's crime/treason had succeeded, would Rove still get some credit? Just kinda wondering.


44 posted on 02/23/2005 5:55:55 AM PST by Waco
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