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Nurses Assert Shiavo, Set to Have Feeding Stopped, Has Spoken Words such as 'Hi,' 'Momma', Help me'
spiritDaily.com ^ | 02-16-05 | Spirit Daily.com

Posted on 02/16/2005 11:47:42 AM PST by Salvation

NURSES ASSERT THAT SCHIAVO WOMAN, SET TO HAVE FEEDING STOPPED, HAS SPOKEN WORDS SUCH AS 'HI,' 'MOMMA,' AND 'HELP ME'

Nurses who tended to Terri Schiavo -- the Florida woman whose feeding and water tubes may soon be removed -- have stated in affidavits provided by her family that the 41-year-old has exhibited clear-cut behavior indicating she is conscious and aware of her surroundings.

In stunning testimony, one nurse, Heidi Law, a certified nursing assistant who took care of Terri when she was at Palm Gardens Nursing Home in Largo, Florida, in 1997, said that the severely disabled woman formed words such as "mommy, "momma," and most hauntingly, "help me."

"While it is true that those patients will flinch or make sounds occasionally, they don't do it as a reaction to someone on a constant basis who is taking care of them, the way I saw Terri do," claimed Law in a formal deposition. "I witnessed a priest visiting Terri a couple of times. Terri would become quiet when he prayed with her. She couldn't bow her head because of her stiff neck, but she would still try. During the prayer, she would keep her eyes closed, opening them afterward. She laughed at jokes he told her. I definitely know that Terri 'is in there.'"

The testimony, contained in affidavits provided to Spirit Daily by her family, the Schindlers, who are desperately attempting to prevent her death, contradicts widespread perceptions that Terri is a nearly brain-dead or comatose woman living in a vegetative state. In fact, by some indications the woman may have greatly improved had she been provided adequate therapy.

"I have heard her say 'mommy' from time to time, and 'momma,' and she also said 'help me' a number of times. She would frequently make noises like she was trying to talk," said Law.

That the disabled woman acknowledges the presence of her parents, responds to music, and follows the movement of objects such as a balloon has long been known and documented by videos [click here]; and the affidavits have appeared on advocacy websites. Indeed, the caretakers have testified that Terri seemed to stare out her window as if waiting for her mother -- not only denied therapy, but also in a small room with a radio that her husband allowed to be left on only a single station.

But that she actually formed words is attested by a second caretaker, Carla Sauer Iyer, a registered nurse who was at Palm Garden from 1995 to 1997.

"Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented," stated Iyer in her own affidavit for the family -- testimony that was not allowed into court by a judge who has consistently ruled against the Schindlers. "When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as 'mommy' and 'help me.' 'Help me' was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word 'pain' when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like 'pay.' When I came into her room and said 'Hi, Terri,' she would always recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way toward me, saying, 'Haaaiiiii,' sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a 'hi,' which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound being only a second or two long. When I told her stories about my life, or something I read in the paper, Terri would sometimes chuckle, sometimes more a giggle or laugh."

The nurses said the Schiavo woman was often silent for hours and in a "cold sweat" after her husband visited. It was her husband Michael -- now living with a woman by whom he has had two children -- who the nurses said limited her rehabilitation and allegedly "intimidated" staff at the nursing home -- charges that, if true, warrant a major investigation. (Let us emphasize that thus far they are just that: allegations.)

"I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart," claimed Iyer in potentially devastating detail. "Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in her room with him."

Schiavo, they assert, was denied rehabilitation even though there was evidence that at times she could swallow on her own. "I personally saw her swallow the ice water and never saw her gag," said Law. "On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri mouthfuls of Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely. I did not do it more often only because I was afraid of being caught by Michael."

The affidavits, it must be underscored, were conducted in 2003 on behalf of the Schindlers, and as such are in the category of advocacy for their position. Moreover, other nurses who tended to Terri have not yet been fully debriefed in public. Some experts have asserted that Terri's responses are not coordinated ones but nearly instinctual or reflex-like, indicating no real awareness.

But the facts as presented in the affidavits indicate quite differently -- if the testimony is correct, shockingly so. The two nurses portray Terri as a woman who adores baths, liked having her hair combed, and enjoyed a sweet-smelling lotion and soft nightgowns her mother provided.

"Every day, Terri was gotten up after lunch and sat in a chair all afternoon," said Law. "When Terri was in bed, she very much preferred to lie on her right side and look out the window. We always said that she was watching for her mother. It was very obvious that her mother was her favorite person in the whole world."

It is now her parents and siblings who are desperately fighting to prevent her husband from "pulling the plug" on feeding and hydration tubes, which could occur as soon as this month if the Schindlers do not win court victories. So far, judicial decisions have been baffling, with little consideration to Schiavo's state when an actual appearance by the woman might be all that is necessary to display her true condition. Thus far, only the actions of Governor Jeb Bush and the Schindler lawyers have prevented her death. But last week a Pinellas County judge turned down a request to set aside his order allowing Terri's feeding tube be removed, closing yet another legal avenue to her parents in their quest to keep her alive.

Instead of rehabilitation, a "do not resuscitate" sign has been hung on her door. The woman has been denied Holy Communion and Mass attendance, her father told Spirit Daily two weeks ago.

Iyer claims that she "became fearful for my personal safety" and was terminated after she called police about comments and activities at the nursing home relative to the Schiavo woman. "When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri," the affidavit alleges. "He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar." The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This happened about five times on my shift as I recall. Normally Terri's blood-sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding."

Added Law, the nursing assistant, "When she was upset, which was usually the case after Michael was there, she would withdraw for hours... Several times when Michael visited during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists, and sometimes had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; felos; greer; helpme; hi; momma; schiavo; schindler; spokenwords; terri; terrischiavo; terrisfight; terrishiavo
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This is getting more interesting. Your obsrvations and comments welcome!
1 posted on 02/16/2005 11:47:44 AM PST by Salvation
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To: floriduh voter

Please ping your list.


2 posted on 02/16/2005 11:48:22 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for posting this!!


3 posted on 02/16/2005 11:49:13 AM PST by msp2004
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To: All

The Catechism of the Catholic Church

enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here

Euthanasia

2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.

2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.

Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.

2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.

2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.


4 posted on 02/16/2005 11:49:28 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: msp2004

You're welcome. I found it fascinating that nurses are testifying that Michael tampered with nursing records.


5 posted on 02/16/2005 11:52:06 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Added Law, the nursing assistant, "When she was upset, which was usually the case after Michael was there, she would withdraw for hours... Several times when Michael visited during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists, and sometimes had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy."

I wish I could've worked as her nurse, as my patient's advocate - I'd be sure to walk in and see what he was doing to her.

6 posted on 02/16/2005 11:53:15 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: SunnyUsa

Sounds like he messed with the diet too, if her blood sugar levels were altered. Or could that happen just from stress?


7 posted on 02/16/2005 11:56:29 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; goldenstategirl; Starmaker; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

8 posted on 02/16/2005 11:58:43 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: SunnyUsa

It makes you wonder what he was doing and saying to her. You have to be really evil to antagonize a woman in her condition.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 11:58:47 AM PST by TightyRighty
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To: Salvation; carenot; Txslady

PING! Thank you!


10 posted on 02/16/2005 12:00:57 PM PST by countrydummy (#RIGHTALK.. http://www.rightalk.com)
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To: Salvation

If I was her mother, I think I may have seen that Michael had an "accident" a long time ago.


11 posted on 02/16/2005 12:04:47 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: countrydummy

You're welcome. One of the best articles I have seen about what is really happening with Terri.


12 posted on 02/16/2005 12:04:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

What was the Florida law struck down by the court? Shouldn't the Florida legislature simply pass a law stating that all indigent individuals involved in court cases be appointed attorneys?


13 posted on 02/16/2005 12:05:57 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Salvation

I cannot believe Greer is still handing this case. I still say he's an interest in the book Michael's lawyer is writing - the one about how he telepathically hears comatose patients telling him how much they want to die - OR that the medical community has been so negligent regarding her care and rehabilitation, all at the order of the man who tried to kill her in the first place.


14 posted on 02/16/2005 12:06:24 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Salvation

bttt


15 posted on 02/16/2005 12:06:47 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: FL_engineer

This thread needs your chart that was posted on the other thread!!


16 posted on 02/16/2005 12:07:23 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Salvation

MS is one heck of a law breaker! He doesn't live up to his responsibilities as guardian which are required by Florida law and Judge Greer is right alongside him!!


17 posted on 02/16/2005 12:08:52 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Salvation

What did Michael do? His second worse nightmare, Terri speaks. His worse nightmare, he "rides the lightning".


18 posted on 02/16/2005 12:10:01 PM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: Salvation

Dear God, save her in spite of all the harm they want to do to this dear woman. Bring JUSTICE to Terry and NEW LIFE!


19 posted on 02/16/2005 12:10:23 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: mlc9852

Maybe we could convince the soldier who thinks killing folks is fun, especially men who misuse their wives, to umm, do something creative to Michael. JOKE< JOKE, of course!


20 posted on 02/16/2005 12:12:33 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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