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U.S. soldiers do not enjoy killing (From the College Front)(Barf Alert)
Badger Herald (U. Wisconsin) ^ | 2/7/05 | Casey Hoff

Posted on 02/08/2005 11:21:51 AM PST by NorCoGOP

MADISON, Wis. -- Pop quiz, hotshot: Who made the following statement last week? "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight, you know? It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling."

A. Abu Musab al-Zarkowi

B. Osama Bin Laden

C. Saddam Hussein

D. U.S. Lieutenant General James Mattis

If you guessed D, congratulations. You now understand that one of our U.S. Marines made a comment so outrageous that he is now on par with the worst of the terrorists. General James Mattis said that, "it's fun to shoot some people" and "it's a hell of a hoot" while speaking to a group in San Diego about strategies for the war on terror. General Mattis has commanded troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, but he now has blood on his hands because by making that comment, he immediately put our U.S. troops in more danger. His service in the marines is no longer honorable.

I have a long history of military service in my family, as do millions of other Americans. My uncle ran the Pensacola Marine Base and flew both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford. He also served in Vietnam, and in Beirut he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages. My grandfather served in World War II in Pearl Harbor at the time of the horrific bombings there. I also have a very good friend who is currently serving in Iraq.

Military service is a priceless asset to the United States of America as our last line of defense against those who want to kill us, and I cannot thank the U.S. military enough for putting their lives at risk in the most heroic of fashions so that we can continue to live peacefully in this wonderful country. But there is one virtue that 99 percent of the military holds dear to this day: They serve their country not because it's a "hoot" or a fun little game to kill people, but because in the absolute last lines of defense, they must kill to protect us. In other words, 99 percent of the military does not enjoy killing.

Lieutenant General James Mattis is not a hero; he is a terrorist. By making that statement, he instantly recruited more terrorists to murder our good men and women serving in Iraq. Like the Abu Ghraib torture situation and the Mi Lai massacre in Vietnam, General Mattis re-emphasized the negative stereotype of the U.S. Marines as "killing machines" and "evil, vindictive murderers." He should be dishonorably discharged from the military immediately.

However, thus far his superior officer General Mike Hagee is defending these indefensible, pseudo-treasonous comments by saying, "While I understand that some people may take issue with the comments made by him, I also know he intended to reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war." It is an unfortunate reality to have to kill while we are at war, but it is a complete lie and distortion to insinuate that the majority of our troops enjoy killing.

General Mattis' statements do two extremely dangerous things. No. 1, it will cause the death of more U.S. soldiers, as the Abu Ghraib incident did after it was exploited and played countless times on Al-Jazeera television. No. 2, it adds fuel to the fire for a small sector of the Sandonista-left in this country that see the United States military as an evil institution with evil people in it that love to kill. A caller on my radio show re-emphasized this ridiculous position on Friday, when he called the U.S. military a bunch of "killing machines" who enjoy murdering people. The other ridiculous sentiment comes from the crypto-fascist, Kool-Aid-drinking, Sean Hannity right, who believe that we can say and do whatever we want to others because we are the U.S.A., and we are a superpower.

The people with this opinion are also fools. If we claim to have the "moral high-ground" over the terrorists, then we have to act that way. We can't avoid the Geneva Conventions like these same people wanted to do with Abu Ghraib, and we can't have people in the military who say to the whole world that they get some sort of sick pleasure out of killing others.

What General James Mattis did when he said "It's fun to shoot some people" is beyond my comprehension. If you defend his statements, then you must realize you are spitting in the face of every single person in the United States military and every single veteran. Mattis is not a hero, but a terrorist and an inhumane piece of human debris. He is a Benedict Arnold in our effort to fight terrorism and is a disgrace to this country. We must do everything we can to keep the General James Mattises of this world out of the conceptual image of the U.S. military and this great country.


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1 posted on 02/08/2005 11:21:52 AM PST by NorCoGOP
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2 posted on 02/08/2005 11:22:23 AM PST by NorCoGOP (http://shawnsblogroom.blogspot.com)
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To: NorCoGOP

Note to Casey Hoff: quit your sniveling, wussified, pansy-assed whining and be a man.


3 posted on 02/08/2005 11:23:16 AM PST by pissant
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To: NorCoGOP
I've got to admit, it is a heck of a lot of fun to rock 'n roll with an M-60, but my "banger" of choice was Maw-duce.
4 posted on 02/08/2005 11:25:19 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: NorCoGOP

I strongly suspect that the reaction to General Mattis' comments is one of those red state/blue state things. Personally, I loved them. I am from one of the reddest states of all -- Texas. I imagine that the comments didn't go over nearly so well in places like Vermont.


5 posted on 02/08/2005 11:25:28 AM PST by kesg
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To: NorCoGOP
A message to: U.S. Lieutenant General James Mattis

Dear General Patton
Please step away from the microphone and resume dispatching our enemies.
Carry on Sir.
6 posted on 02/08/2005 11:26:34 AM PST by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: NorCoGOP
[The screenwriters took excerpts from many of Patton's actual speeches, edited them, and created this enduring scene.] ................. ...Americans traditionally love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle.
7 posted on 02/08/2005 11:26:43 AM PST by Polybius
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To: NorCoGOP
I have a long history of military service in my family, as do millions of other Americans

Why not you? Maybe you would then understand this point I make.

His service in the marines is no longer honorable.

Not your call, jerk.

I am glad he enjoys his job. A terrorist kills civilians to induce fear in good people. A Marine kills those who pose a threat and induce fear in those who would do us harm. Big difference.
8 posted on 02/08/2005 11:29:03 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: pissant
Note to Casey Hoff: quit your sniveling, wussified, pansy-assed whining and be a man.

Bless you.

Kill em. Kill em all.

9 posted on 02/08/2005 11:29:21 AM PST by zarf
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To: NorCoGOP
Count me into the "1%" (according to this dumb-@ss) of US soldiers who agrees 100% with Gen. Mattis.
10 posted on 02/08/2005 11:30:00 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: NorCoGOP

This guy sounds exactly like the asshole editor of my college's student paper; real liberal, always bashing Bush and the war, then hiding behind his father's career as a Marine, who's actually serving our country in Iraq. And he enjoys taunting college Republicans and all who support the war, saying they should join the Marines and go over there to be killed. I emailed that douche and told him I was doing just that. Oh yeah, ping.


11 posted on 02/08/2005 11:30:00 AM PST by Free and Armed
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To: NorCoGOP

Sounds like the reasoning of a 12 year old. It's amazing who is allowed their own radio shows now days.


12 posted on 02/08/2005 11:31:21 AM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: NorCoGOP

"...a comment so outrageous that he is now on par with the worst of the terrorists"

I am stunned that such a ludicrous statement would find it's way to print.


13 posted on 02/08/2005 11:32:58 AM PST by nosofar
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To: Dominick

My sentiments exactly. Too bad, soldiers kill bad guys, if they enjoy their job more power to them.


14 posted on 02/08/2005 11:33:14 AM PST by Probus
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To: NorCoGOP

Soldier = Kill things and break things, what could be so hard to understand about that? Liberals would all be dead by now if left to their own devices.


15 posted on 02/08/2005 11:34:59 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: kesg

Maybe its more of a dem/republican thing. I'm a blue stater and I loved what he said. Especially if you heard the context (which of course, in the MSM you didn't) which was that you are shooting scum who beat women for not wearing a veil. As a woman, I'd shoot 'em myself.


16 posted on 02/08/2005 11:36:43 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: NorCoGOP; xzins
IMO I don't think it's good policy or procedure to want any U.S. Marine to kill vicious terrorists reluctantly.
17 posted on 02/08/2005 11:37:35 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: NorCoGOP

In other words, it ain’t PC to speak the truth about war.


18 posted on 02/08/2005 11:40:17 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: kesg

Last night on Hannity & Colmes, Ann Coulter referred to General Mattis as her future husband!


19 posted on 02/08/2005 11:40:18 AM PST by MichiganCheese (God Bless the Norwoods. Thank you for your fine son.)
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To: NorCoGOP
Casey Hoff is a nitwit. He has never been in the military, and I don't guess he knows a thing about "shots fired in anger".

When the adrenaline subsides, when you no longer have that "copper penny" in your mouth, the joys and rush of life returns with overwhelming power.

They are the enemy Casey Hoff, our Marines do not "feel bad" about killing them.
20 posted on 02/08/2005 11:40:38 AM PST by Al Gator
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