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To quote Eugene Volokh

...let's briefly analyze this: Alterman is not just saying that Muslim groups are not interested in commemorating the harm done to a group that they're now hostile to. (He is partly saying that, which acknowledges that many Muslims are hostile to Jews, and not just to Israel, but that's not all he's saying.) I should say that such a view would be understandable, though not laudable; it's human nature not to much feel the suffering of others, especially if you have some hostility to them.

Rather, he's analogizing the victims of the Holocaust (those who suffering is honored) to "[Muslim]-bashing bigots." It's not the Israelis who are being honored, it's the slaughtered and nearly slaughtered European Jews. Yet somehow they reverse-inherit the supposed guilt of Israelis and other Jews today. Men, women, children butchered in Auschwitz, even ones who had never had much interest in Palestine and who had no opinions at all to Muslims — quite analogous to "[Muslim]-bashing bigots," yes, indeed.

This strikes me as the classic morality of group guilt. Jews of the 1940s are morally tainted by their supposed sins today; we should hate ethnically Japanese because of Pearl Harbor; Jews killed Christ (assume for a moment that this is historically accurate — the hostility to Jews would remain wrong even then) so Jews today are culpable; many Arabs support suicide bombers, so I shouldn't care about wrongs being done to completely innocent Arab-Americans.

As to who suffered from the Holocaust, it seems to me that the U.N. partition of that part of the world — followed shortly by the 1948 war in which the Arabs tried to destroy Israel, and Israel won and obtained the customary spoils of war — is quite a bit different from the Holocaust. (Among other things, there were Jews living there, who had something of a claim to their own state, too.)

But if you really want to take the "who suffered" perspective, well, many innocent Germans surely suffered a great deal from World War II. Some of them may have various grounds for complaint against the Allies, from the Dresden bombings (I'm not an expert on them, but I know there are plausible claims that they went beyond what should be done even in a total war) to what I understand was a massive and largely unpunished wave of rapes of German women by many Soviet soldiers. So I take it that it would be "morally idiotic" to ask those innocent Germans "to participate in a [Holocaust commemoration] ceremony that does not recognize their own suffering but implicitly endorses the view that caused their catastrophe" (i.e., that many Germans were guilty of heinous crimes)?

I would have thought that good people should generally mark with sadness the mass murder of innocents, and set aside for another day the debate about what other wrongs should be commemorated or righted. Now I realize that people (whether Jews, Arabs, Germans, Americans, Russians, or anyone else), even people who are otherwise good, sometimes don't rise to the occasion this way. Again, if Alterman had simply pointed out that this is human nature, and doesn't merit harsh condemnation, I wouldn't be criticizing him.

But instead, Alterman descends into ascribing ethnic guilt, the very moral fallacy that has helped cause so much mindless slaughter. And on top of that, he ascribes the guilt to the slaughtered innocents of the Holocaust. Shameless, and shameful. In the words of Cathy Young, "Alterman frets that his words will be 'twisted beyond recognition,' but it's hard to see how they can be twisted into something more indecent than they already are.".

Alterman should count himself lucky that the Jews don't deal with their turncoats the same way the Palesterrorists deal with theirs.

1 posted on 02/07/2005 11:40:24 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck

I believe the word to describe Alterman is "kapo". "Dhimmi" may be the modern version of that.


2 posted on 02/07/2005 11:45:13 AM PST by thoughtomator (reporting from Cylon-occupied Caprica)
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To: white trash redneck
>Alterman should count himself lucky that the Jews don't deal with their turncoats the same way the Palesterrorists deal with theirs


3 posted on 02/07/2005 11:52:36 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: white trash redneck

Sometimes you just want to find meaning in this kind of neurosis. Do you suppose a lot of it is simply cowardice? It's so much easier to snarl at the victim than to take on a ferocious enemy.


5 posted on 02/07/2005 1:03:30 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: white trash redneck
They lost their homeland as the world -- in the form of the United Nations -- reacted to European crimes by awarding half of Palestine to the Zionists.

Alterman is an idiot. Israel was given only about 20% of the Palestinian mandate and even that is too much for the Arabs and for liberal Jews like Alterman. They just want Jews to roll over and die.

There is already a Palestinian Arab country in the district formerly known as Palestine. It's called Jordan. The idea that Israel should put up with two Arab states in Palestine is unconscionable.

8 posted on 02/08/2005 8:49:16 AM PST by Tamar1973 (“Someone who doesn't know the difference between good & evil is worth nothing.”)
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