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The Rise of the Muslim Boys (Portents of Britain's approaching dhimmitude)
The Evening Standard ^ | February 3, 2005 | David Cohen

Posted on 02/05/2005 10:01:56 AM PST by quidnunc

Winston emerges menacingly from the kitchen, a meat cleaver in one hand and a kitchen knife with an eight-inch blade in the other. "I love knives," he says, his eyes gleaming as he begins to slash the air inches from my face.

"Guns make a f***ing noise, but knives go in," he pauses, " silentlike, easy." He begins stabbing the wall and hacking the plaster, and then, just as suddenly, stops, seemingly sated, like an addict who has had his fix.

He holds up his blades to inspect them. "F***ing quality," he says, and deposits them unceremoniously his trousers. Winston, 21, black and from south London, licks his teeth as he paces around the stripped-bare flat on a Peckham estate that serves as one of his gang's many secret hideouts. He speaks in his gang's uniquely coded lingo.

"Knives is f***-all. Later, my bruvs will be back from their robberies with our skengelengs [guns] and cream [money]. Later there be MACinside-10s [sub-machine guns] all over the floor, laid wall to wall. And moolah! We count it — 10 grand, 20 grand. Then, after midnight," he adds, matter-of-factly, "me and my bruvs go to mosque to pray."

Winston's casual depiction of a lifestyle of crime tightly bound up with religious observance would normally be regarded as paradoxical, but in his case it is what defines him. For Winston is a member of the Muslim Boys, a gang, the black community says, unlike any that has operated before in south London.

-snip-

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: islam; jihadineurope; muslims; nonmuslims; ukmuslims
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1 posted on 02/05/2005 10:01:56 AM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

These people are jihad terrorists. Their removal from British society is indicated. I'll bet they are subsidized from abroad.


2 posted on 02/05/2005 10:09:09 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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3 posted on 02/05/2005 10:09:38 AM PST by PokeyJoe (Unvarnished Truth - Your Mileage May Vary)
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To: quidnunc

Religious street gangs. Those crazy Brits.


4 posted on 02/05/2005 10:12:26 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: quidnunc

Nice combo--islam and drug dealing gangsters. And historically, conversion to islam by force is not un-islamic.


5 posted on 02/05/2005 10:18:31 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: quidnunc

"Nevertheless, questions remain: if their crime spree is not funding a lavish lifestyle, what are the Muslim Boys doing with their illgotten gains?"

That was my question, exactly. I also thought guns were outlawed in Britain, how come outlaws have them?


6 posted on 02/05/2005 10:21:35 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: quidnunc

If a film scriptwriter's agent was pitching this story, it would probably contain some lame characterization like: "Clockwork Orange meets Euro-jihad chic".

One can easily imagine this 'Winston' creature committing the ritual multiple murder recently perpetrated on that Copt family in Jersey City, and then calmly ordering a triple dip at the nearest Baskin-Robbins. Now multiply his kind by hundreds or (if Labor-governed Whitehall fails to get a clue) thousands, and Eurabia comes into view.

Given Cole's blase attitude, the clue apparently is still to be gotten.


7 posted on 02/05/2005 10:21:59 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: quidnunc

Sounds like the same sh-t I hear from kids in the Bronx and Brooklyn. Aint multiculturalism great, Pommies?


8 posted on 02/05/2005 10:22:45 AM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: quidnunc
Yep..it's happening. Conversion by force of the lower criminals will wave out and poison all of London. First the streets and jails then on to converting the school children etc.
9 posted on 02/05/2005 10:23:28 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: satchmodog9
>Religious street gangs. Those crazy Brits.

Ridley Scott, famous
British director, has made
a new film about

the Crusades. It seems
in today's PC climate,
he sides with Muslims!

"During the Crusades of the 12th Century, Balian of Ibelin (Orlando Bloom), a young blacksmith in Jerusalem, rises to protect his people from foreign invaders"

Kingdom of Heaven

10 posted on 02/05/2005 10:24:23 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

OH that rips it!!! What is WRONG with these people??? Do they really think siding with Muslims will save them?

And I really liked Alien.


11 posted on 02/05/2005 10:30:20 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: quidnunc; Happy2BMe
must...not...profile...must...listen...to...CAIR

must...not...profile...must...listen...to...CAIR


12 posted on 02/05/2005 10:30:37 AM PST by Tuba Guy (Allah akbar - (NOT !! )..... Allah FUBAR)
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To: MadIvan

wth?


13 posted on 02/05/2005 10:30:48 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: quidnunc

If this story is half true, the general "moderate Islamic" community (if it exists) is playing with fire in not turning these guys in.


14 posted on 02/05/2005 10:33:15 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: King Prout
It says the police estimate there are less than a hundred of these violent idiots. I dare say you've probably got something similar in Detroit - it's a problem we in the West have: we've allowed the intolerant a foothold because of our toleration.

Regards, Ivan

15 posted on 02/05/2005 10:39:02 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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16 posted on 02/05/2005 10:48:56 AM PST by Tuba Guy (yep ..... we got 'em, too)
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To: Tuba Guy

bttt


17 posted on 02/05/2005 11:03:00 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: quidnunc
"They number in their hundreds, according to some estimates, with ages ranging from 15 to 30, and their hallmark is extreme violence, with automatic and semi-automatic machine guns their weapons of choice. But what makes them unique is that they are socalled "converts", whose perverted interpretation of Islam is central to their identity as killers and criminals. Their stamping grounds are the estates of south London, where they hole-up in safe houses, living ascetic lives in stark contrast to the 'blingbling' lifestyle of other gangs."

The Islamic mirror image of the Templars and Hospitalers! At least Islam supports personal ownership of firearms!

18 posted on 02/05/2005 11:05:15 AM PST by Woodworker
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To: ariamne

Yes, the forced conversions make them look like a group
of 9th century Islamic African Berbers in S. London. The article
cites their use of "machine guns" and the irony is
absolutely delicious! -- at the very same time Britain
has stripped its citizens of the right to possess any
weapons of self-defense. Several journals have described
the enormous crimewave that has overtaken Britain since
the toughest gun-control laws went into effect. John
Lott should write a special volume for the Brits, "Fewer
Guns, More Crime."


19 posted on 02/05/2005 11:12:48 AM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: MadIvan

It actually says that one policeman estimates it as less than a hundred and other criminologists put it much higher. That plus the possibility of it spreading is dangerous.

You're right that undoubtably there are Muslim gangs in the US, but by and large they are terrorizing their own neighborhoods. I've never heard of any gang paying extortion money to a Muslim gang. That said, I could see the GD's (a very powerful US gang) ending up Muslim. They aren't...at least not yet...but they are developing a culture as much as commiting crime and they are heavily influenced by prison...where Islam is thriving as well.

An interesting parallel...there is, or at least should be, a struggle between the radicals and the so-called moderate Muslims, if they really exist. Freedom House just put out a study of the literature at major US mosques. It ain't moderate at all. Scary reading.


20 posted on 02/05/2005 12:40:56 PM PST by blanknoone (GWB: Saying what he means and meaning what he says)
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