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Microsoft kicks off search effort (Microsoft throws down gauntlet to Google)
CNET ^ | 2/1/2005 | Stefanie Olsen

Posted on 02/01/2005 6:38:41 AM PST by KwasiOwusu

Microsoft on Monday replaced Yahoo's search technology with its own homespun software and will kick off a huge advertising campaign to supplant Google in consumers' hearts.

As expected, MSN, a unit of the software giant, has taken its Web search technology out of the laboratory, and placed it on MSN's newly redesigned home page in 25 countries. Two and a half years in the making, MSN Search will now be the focal point of the updated, lighter-weight site; and it is the subject of Microsoft's newest ad campaign, which includes television, print, Internet and outdoor promotions.

MSN Search Vice President Christopher Payne would not disclose ad spending, but he estimated that 90 percent of Americans, as well as U.K. and Japanese residents, will encounter the campaign. television ads, for example, will run during the Super Bowl, the Oscars and the Grammys. "Oh, you're going to notice it," he said.
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Google is still at the top of the heap, but its lead is shrinking. In December 2004, Google served about 34.7 percent of the market, down 0.3 percent from the previous period in 2003, according to ComScore Networks. During the same period, Yahoo jumped from serving 27 percent of the market to 31.9 percent. And MSN added a point to its position, going from 15.4 percent to 16.3 percent from December to December.

Key to MSN's strategy to win over the Web population is providing "answers" to queries, rather than millions of links, Payne said. While Yahoo, Ask Jeeves, Google and smaller sites like Answers.com have sought to fill in search requests with answers to questions on the weather, entertainment and package tracking, MSN believes it can do one better with its encyclopedia software Encarta.

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To: An.American.Expatriate
"Then I'm unlucky, because when I go to MSN.COM "


That is funny. Its working great for me.
I entered "what is the population of Germany" at msn and it came up straight away with:
"Germany: Population, total: 82,424,609"

I asked :"German GDP"

and it swiftly came up with:
"Answer: Germany: GDP (gross domestic product): 1,984,094,960,240 U.S. dollars"

I have been having a lot of fun using msn this morning.

You keep having problems with msn search? Strange indeed.
41 posted on 02/01/2005 8:06:35 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Capitalism2003
"Google wins"

Yeah?
Tell me, how many of those 20 million results did you go through this morning?
I need at most the top 100 or so relevant realists from any search.
The rest is chaff as far as I am concerned.
Google wins nothing.
42 posted on 02/01/2005 8:10:14 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu

Using the search is not a problem (and I have not complained of any!!).

There must be some sort of background filter that determines that I am in Switzerland and sends me automatically to the beta (will most likely be corrected when the Swiss servers are changed over).

I have overcome this by going directly to search.msn.com. I do not get redirected when querying from there.



43 posted on 02/01/2005 8:10:27 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate ((This space for let))
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To: HamiltonJay

"Microsoft has thrown down its guantlet for Search about 10 times now... and they always land with a unimpressive thud."

Is that what the Netscape people said too?


44 posted on 02/01/2005 8:12:51 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Smedley
What I hate about Google is that on some days EVERY SEARCH has a link to some sales site, e.g., ebay, in the top 5 hits.

Not only that, but 99.99% of the eBay auctions that it links to have already expired. Google has become nothing but a mechanism to deliver advertisements to your computer, and the MS search engine will do just the same.

45 posted on 02/01/2005 8:13:04 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Where does bandwidth go when it is wasted?)
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To: Musket

"I point out that the local search is a joke"

Mine works fine...but I do know how to use it too.


46 posted on 02/01/2005 8:13:50 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Musket

"Compared to Mac and Linux it is a joke."

When you only have to pieces of software to run, it's bound to be faster?


47 posted on 02/01/2005 8:16:17 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Capitalism2003

"Free Republic" Search Results:

It takes time to populate a data base.

Will be interesting to see if the number changes with time?


48 posted on 02/01/2005 8:28:34 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: KwasiOwusu

Fun...

I often look for sites located near me.

The search provides a "near me" button which the user can seed with a location to search in and around....pretty cool


49 posted on 02/01/2005 8:31:27 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: KwasiOwusu

Well, golly, gee. Thanks for the civics lesson...I had no idea....being born and educated here in America. And you even think its "fine" ...that even makes me feel lots better about it, now that I know you approve....NOT!


50 posted on 02/01/2005 8:35:05 AM PST by Banjoguy (The party of Democrats is not democratic.)
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To: Smartaleck
"The search provides a "near me" button which the user can seed with a location to search in and around....pretty cool"

Agree.
I am finding the "near me" button very useful for my local searches here in New York too.
And for the most part, it works.
51 posted on 02/01/2005 8:38:45 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Banjoguy
"I had no idea....being born and educated here in America. And you even think its "fine" ...that even makes me feel lots better about it, now that I know you approve....NOT!"

I neither "approve, "disapprove" or care in the least what search engine you use.
It's of no relevance to me whatsoever.
Everyone can and will use whatever search engine they want, and the market is going to decide the eventual winner, like most things.
Naturally I am going to bet on Microsoft.
52 posted on 02/01/2005 8:43:26 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu
Good bye and good riddance.

How old are you, Little Precious?

53 posted on 02/01/2005 9:01:00 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Smartaleck

Don't know, but microsoft's track record of taking over industies is not without failures, and a decade of failure in search puts MS in the search arena equivalent to MS in the personal finance arena.

Quicken still beats MS Money hands down... and thats even after MS got to see every single piece of internal info of quickens back when they were going to buy them out....

With MS history speaks more than anything else, and in this arena, they have a 10 year track record of failure, in spite of trying their darndest not to.

Google has rested on its luarels particularly in traditional searching, but even so, MS is so far behind the curve, I"m not sweating bullets thinking MS is gonna be the next google.


54 posted on 02/01/2005 9:07:36 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: KwasiOwusu

Oh, man. I can't believe I agree with you. Don't tell anyone. Personally, after Google started pulling all their leftist crap like recognizing Ray Charles Birthday (nothing wrong with that, I thought it was great), but then ignoring Veterans Day, making the "I feel lucky" link for "moron" to a biography of George Bush, I'm ready to see the dark side known as Microsoft take them down at the ankles.


55 posted on 02/01/2005 9:12:45 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: KwasiOwusu; An.American.Expatriate
"Care to comment on the results??"

Nope.
Its not relevant to my msn search from msn.com.

Well, AAE, I think this comment tells us what we thought, eh?

56 posted on 02/01/2005 9:17:18 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: HamiltonJay
"Don't know, but microsoft's track record of taking over industies is not without failures"

Microsoft just overtook Real Networks in media player use on the internet last year, plus Microsoft took out Palm in the PDA's quarter before last.
We haven't even talked about Netscape.
The loading search engine has changed lots of times, Yahoo, Alta Vista, Goto.com etc etc have all led at one time or the other.
Plus both msn and yahoo have already started to gain market share from Google, according to this very article.

Over the long term, I am going to back Microsoft on this one.
In fact I';; bet that even in a year's time, Microsoft will have a higher market share than they have today.
57 posted on 02/01/2005 9:26:24 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Doohickey

but still sooooo true.


58 posted on 02/01/2005 9:27:35 AM PST by SengirV
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To: KwasiOwusu
Over the long term, I am going to back Microsoft on this one.

But of course you are, Little Precious, since you're a paid shill.

59 posted on 02/01/2005 9:28:58 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
"How old are you, Little Precious?"

You should be more worried about your mental age.
From your mindless ramblings so far, you really do sound like a retarded 5 year old.
But then you know that already.

BTW, you gotta stop playing with daddy's computer ok?
He may hold off on your meds again if you don't.
Now then,that's much better isn't it?
Any more inane, brainless nonsense from you?
60 posted on 02/01/2005 9:34:46 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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