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1 posted on 02/01/2005 1:34:25 AM PST by The Loan Arranger
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I read the whole article - it will be ignored by the MSM of course.

I am not that far removed from the college scene. Hooking up was rampant at my very, very famous southern school.

In short here is a primary cause: the fear of being labeled 'anti-social'. If you are labeled that in college, it WILL hurt your future career, esp if you somehow managed to get into a fraternity or soroity.

Being 'social' means you never get upset about anything, and you NPR sing-song voice is perfectly pitched, regardless of the strain of the social situation.

What the vast number of kids are totally ignorant of is the New Testament, and specifically the attacks against the Pharisees within it. That is the core of the current fight. The 'rules' are there all right, such that later, when they are parents, their ability to exercise authority of any kind is minimized.

It is a kind of Weirmar Germany ... just a different set of rules.


2 posted on 02/01/2005 4:03:16 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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A fine article by Dr. Guroian. If you haven't, I highly suggest reading some of his books or other articles. They're hard to find, though, since he writes about things that are very "unfashionable" in today's society. And I can tell you that he truly lives the lifestyle about which he writes...I've known one of his children for years.


3 posted on 02/01/2005 4:09:29 AM PST by AQGeiger (The liberals say every vote counts...except in Iraq and Afghanistan.)
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Very long read in the original, but very good. As a school nurse, I hope to pass this information to my parents so they realize the dangers ahead!


4 posted on 02/01/2005 4:12:34 AM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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This article is pretty accurate. The unfortunate outcome of this new sexual revolution is that women have become more objectified by sex than liberated. And you won't find one feminist to agree. Let's be honest here. The majority of guys would prefer these hook up relationships- all the sex, none of the emotional attachment. And this younger generation of women, as seen numerous times in article after article, are becoming the exact same way. Sex is just another thing you own, like buying a CD. It's just something you do without any thought to consequence.

Yes, it is the fault of radical feminism and declining moral values. But what these women don't even realize is that they've made themselves sexual objects and nothing more. If anything, the so-called sexual revolution and rise of feminism have, in fact, set this generation of women farther back than anything before.

The unfortunate outcome looks to be a generation of young people who have no clue how to relate to each other except in a sexual way. Talk about a huge evolutionary step backwards.

5 posted on 02/01/2005 4:26:14 AM PST by rintense
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Excellent article, and your points are true, too, gobucks.

My daughter had to move out of the dorms at one point because she couldn't stand sharing a room with another girl - and that girl's "date" of the moment. They would simply parade in and get down to business in the twin bed about 5 feet away from my daughter's bed.

I now live near the University of Florida, where the sorority girls are referred to as "sorostitutes." This is because they are literally call girls for their fraternity "big brothers," who simply pick up the phone and call in a sorority girl whenever they want, sort of like ordering a pizza.

But the kids I have met here through GOP activities tell me that it's very rough for people who don't have that mentality, because they are made to feel like misfits and losers. One of them told me that girls did heavy drinking (swilling vodka straight out of the bottle) so that they wouldn't mind or remember the other things they were going to have to do that night.


14 posted on 02/01/2005 5:05:51 AM PST by livius
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18 posted on 02/01/2005 5:34:11 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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24 posted on 02/01/2005 6:50:53 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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This whole topic really depresses and frightens me, as a Dad whose oldest will be ready for college in just 4 years.

I don't really think 22 years is that long ago, in the grand scheme of things ... that's around or a bit more than the lifespan of the college students we're talking about. That's when I was dating in college, and the vast majority of the women I dated were virgins (or at least acted the role convincingly) and intended to remain that way until they knew they were with the man they would marry.

What happened? Where did sanity go? Yeah, I blame the "men" (so-called) just as much as the women, but men have always been "looking for action" and women have always been smart enough to set limits to protect themselves. Why have the women so willingly swallowed the big lie that promiscuity is a good idea?

Is it that they are just so desperate for male attention, perhaps because they didn't get enough of Daddy growing up, due to a divorce? Is it because there are fewer men, and the competition is much worse? (But what are they competing for -- many of them claim they aren't fishing for any sort of committed relationship, and sex too early in a relationship usually kills any chance of that anyway.) Have they swallowed this feminist idiocy that trying to treat men like sex objects somehow empowers women? (Hint: do two wrongs ever make a right?) Is it because they've given up on waiting for marriage because they've given up on marriage? (Well, that's too bad, but it doesn't follow that picking up a drunken stranger is right solution.)

So what in heck is in it for the women? STD's? The opportunity to get pregnant by some tool who doesn't even remember their name? Ruining their ability to have a happy marriage? The wonders of having to someday explain to their teenage children that they had 30 or maybe 40 sex partners in college? What's the attraction?

And I guarantee there are nice guys, er, men, and women, too, on campus who have completely asexualized themselves because they are terrified of this cr*p and aren't sure what to do to date normally and stay out of the sewer. I might well be one, were I in college today.

35 posted on 02/01/2005 9:21:22 PM PST by Campion
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Ping


46 posted on 02/02/2005 11:16:45 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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I will never send my kids to any college with co-ed dorms. Such places invariably also have an abortion clinic on campus or right across the street.

Culture of Death ping.
47 posted on 02/02/2005 11:20:13 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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One other thing to consider is the male female ratio on college campuses these days. When I went to school in the late 80's it was about 1 to 1. Now I have seen many statistics that indicate that there is a surplus of girls in college. Before I went to school I believe that in most coed institutions there was a surplus of guys. When girls are in the minority they make the rules. Now days guys are the minority, so guess who is making the rules.
51 posted on 02/02/2005 11:26:43 AM PST by Fellow Traveler
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This does sound like the college culture.

It's entirely possible to entirely circumvent the college sex scene - its one of the reasons I associated myself primarily from friends from Campus Crusade, where the guys struggled to maintain moral purity.

My generation lives in a sex-drenched culture where movies such as American Pie have convinced us that our value is determined by our sexuality. In such an over-sexed culture, its small wonder that men and women engage in random relationships.

52 posted on 02/02/2005 11:28:12 AM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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Bump.


56 posted on 02/02/2005 11:35:59 AM PST by mowkeka
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Not totally obliquely related:

Source: http://brynmawr.edu/alumnae:

Civil liberties advocate honored
Helen Bacon '40, Ph.D. '55 was presented the David Burres Award for Civil Liberties by the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts in an April 29 ceremony at Smith College Archives.

As told by Barry Werth in The Scarlet Professor-Newton Arvin: A Literary Life Shattered by Scandal, Bacon organized fellow Smith faculty and students in 1960 on behalf of two younger professors, Joel Dorius and Ned Spofford, who were outed to police by Arvin after he was arrested on charges of possessing homosexual pornography. Smith allowed Arvin, an internationally renowned literary critic, to retire early, but the college's board of trustees fired Dorius and Spofford even after it was determine d that they were accomplished teachers who posed no threat to students. Bacon, with "fire springing out of her head," Dorius later said, pressured the board to reverse its decision, although the men were never rehired.

She has demurred that she does not deserve particular credit for helping Spofford and Dorius, saying "There were hundreds of us who helped." But she was herself being considered for tenure at the time, and is among those "heroes who speak out for civil liberties when it counts most-at the moment when individual rights are violated," said American Civil Liberties Union Director Ira Glasser. Bacon ultimately received tenure and left Smith for a distinguished career in classics at Barnard.


74 posted on 02/02/2005 12:20:51 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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This is precisely why BYU still does not have coed dorms. While I'm not naive enough to think that BYU doesn't have some level of the same problems, I'm very confident that its far below the average university.
93 posted on 02/02/2005 12:52:16 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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. We had never heard of date rape either, though some of us may have committed it.

*** What's THAT supposed to mean? Either you know what rape is or not.


104 posted on 02/02/2005 1:06:13 PM PST by cyborg
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ping
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117 posted on 02/02/2005 1:27:58 PM PST by Mustng959 (In loving memory of those that gave their all to preserve our Freedoms!)
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Tom Wolfe has a good, fictionalized account of current college life in his latest novel, "I Am Charlotte Simmons". It was a good read, and realistic (my oldest is in college now)


139 posted on 02/02/2005 2:10:43 PM PST by firerosemom
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143 posted on 02/02/2005 2:28:03 PM PST by Professional Engineer (My honor student just fired your tough kid.)
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BTTT


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